SUBSIM Radio Room Forums
Frau kaleun shops here, how about you?
Want to support Subsim and make Amazon pay for it? Click here to start any Amazon shopping.


SUBSIM: The Web's #1 BBS for all submarine and naval simulations!

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > Silent Hunter 3 - 4 - 5 > Silent Hunter III
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-05-2011, 02:10 PM   #1
Doolar Semler
Planesman
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: U-30 (Baltimore,Md./ CA45)
Posts: 186
Downloads: 125
Uploads: 0
wolf venting

First of all I know that I don't have to except the patrol grid that BDU assigns me and can change this assigned grid via SH III Commander, but I don't and won't do that. I except all orders as is. But sometimes I think Donetz is got it out for me. Case in point. I was assigned to grid AN81, its Nov. 1940 (still early, I know), and running GWX 3.0. But damn, AN81 has a max depth of between 24 to 28 meters, full of mines, has a group of 3 destroyers and a rouge destroyer buzzing around the surface like I just ran over a Yellow Jacket's nest with the lawn mower,(I've actually done that). For realism purposes at the end of the 24 hour patrol time, I roll dice to simulate a radio message, for additional patrol time in that grid, which, thank heavens, I rolled a 4 this time, (4 more days). With 5 destroyers, aircraft, mines and 28meters of water below me, I had no time to look for merchants. I was playing defence the whole time. After a total of about 48 hours, as soon as it got dark. I had to bug out at full speed ! The safety of my command comes first.
Doolar Semler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 02:14 PM   #2
Sailor Steve
Just A Kid At Heart
 
Sailor Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: 600 miles from the nearest ocean.
Posts: 44,811
Downloads: 406
Uploads: 227


Default

Well, AN81 is the North Sea, after all. Realistically you would be expected to stay in the assigned grid for at least two weeks. I wait that long and only roll a die if I haven't seen any enemy shipping in that time. Then I only change grids on a 1, and it's an adjacent grid anyway.

You pays your money and you takes your chances.
__________________
"Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right."
– Laurens van der Post

Sailor Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 02:24 PM   #3
Brag
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Docked at the foot of the Andes
Posts: 7,036
Downloads: 2
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doolar Semler View Post
First of all I know that I don't have to except the patrol grid that BDU assigns me and can change this assigned grid via SH III Commander, but I don't and won't do that. I except all orders as is. But sometimes I think Donetz is got it out for me. Case in point. I was assigned to grid AN81, its Nov. 1940 (still early, I know), and running GWX 3.0. But damn, AN81 has a max depth of between 24 to 28 meters, full of mines, has a group of 3 destroyers and a rouge destroyer buzzing around the surface like I just ran over a Yellow Jacket's nest with the lawn mower,(I've actually done that). For realism purposes at the end of the 24 hour patrol time, I roll dice to simulate a radio message, for additional patrol time in that grid, which, thank heavens, I rolled a 4 this time, (4 more days). With 5 destroyers, aircraft, mines and 28meters of water below me, I had no time to look for merchants. I was playing defence the whole time. After a total of about 48 hours, as soon as it got dark. I had to bug out at full speed ! The safety of my command comes first.
Donate part of your salary to the Doenitz Blue Water Cruise Club
__________________
Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away
Click here to look inside Brag's book:
Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books
Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html
For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/
Brag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 02:31 PM   #4
Doolar Semler
Planesman
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: U-30 (Baltimore,Md./ CA45)
Posts: 186
Downloads: 125
Uploads: 0
Default personal realism rules

Sailor Steve , I remember a list, of say, "personal realism rules" that you play by. I play by most of them, because there great. I wasn't too sure about how long you stayed in your grid, and when you rolled the dice. Now I'm feel'n like a weenie. I'm going to return. Tell the guys at the Post Office they can have the stuff in my locker and tell my wife I love her. LOL
Doolar Semler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 02:43 PM   #5
sublynx
Grey Wolf
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: In the conning tower of my VIIC scanning the sea through the periscope
Posts: 751
Downloads: 103
Uploads: 2
Default

I tried to find the post with the rules, because I thought there might be something I might start following too, but I didn't find them. Could you tell me about the rules or point to the post with them, Steve?
__________________
GWX 16 km, MaGui F, H.sie's V16B1, Stiebler4A_Addon_for_V16B1, Stock GWX RND Campaign Layer with Zigzag, More wounded & less dead crew v2 - for V16B1, Just Follow Orders, DID 90 % (external views on)
sublynx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 02:58 PM   #6
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 82,481
Downloads: 42
Uploads: 8


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doolar Semler View Post
Sailor Steve , I remember a list, of say, "personal realism rules" that you play by. I play by most of them, because there great. I wasn't too sure about how long you stayed in your grid, and when you rolled the dice. Now I'm feel'n like a weenie. I'm going to return. Tell the guys at the Post Office they can have the stuff in my locker and tell my wife I love her. LOL

LOL....SINK EM ALL!!
__________________
Stop following me...I'm lost!!

GWX3.0 Download Page http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php?r=nkjkl#j35rkcr24g8d2
GWX Website/Home Page
Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim) http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/gwx_donation1207.php
Jimbuna is online   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 03:08 PM   #7
frau kaleun
Valkyrie
 
frau kaleun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Skyrim
Posts: 12,232
Downloads: 167
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doolar Semler View Post
and tell my wife I love her. LOL
Oh, he'll definitely take care of that for you. Navy widows get so lonely, doncha know. I'm sure Steve will make a point of stopping by to deliver your message... personally.
__________________
frau kaleun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 03:16 PM   #8
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 82,481
Downloads: 42
Uploads: 8


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by frau kaleun View Post
Oh, he'll definitely take care of that for you. Navy widows get so lonely, doncha know. I'm sure Steve will make a point of stopping by to deliver your message... personally.
Steve is nothing like that...he promised me he would remain faithful....but to who I'm not quite sure
__________________
Stop following me...I'm lost!!

GWX3.0 Download Page http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php?r=nkjkl#j35rkcr24g8d2
GWX Website/Home Page
Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim) http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/gwx_donation1207.php
Jimbuna is online   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 03:35 PM   #9
Sailor Steve
Just A Kid At Heart
 
Sailor Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: 600 miles from the nearest ocean.
Posts: 44,811
Downloads: 406
Uploads: 227


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doolar Semler View Post
Sailor Steve , I remember a list, of say, "personal realism rules" that you play by. I play by most of them, because there great. I wasn't too sure about how long you stayed in your grid, and when you rolled the dice. Now I'm feel'n like a weenie. I'm going to return. Tell the guys at the Post Office they can have the stuff in my locker and tell my wife I love her. LOL


Oh boy. I've been playing a few game days every day, so everything is fresh in my mind. Are you sure you're ready for this?

Grid assignment: I go where I'm told. If I'm there for two weeks and if I haven't seen anything I roll a six-sider. On a '1' I consider myself ordered to an adjacent grid. Anything else and I'm there for another week, this time moving on a '1' or a '2'. And so on.

Weather reports: Every day at the nearest hour to the one I departed at I make a position report. I use the GWX pull-down map with the little extra grid map to get the full location. Right in front of me is my latest: BF1311. Four game days ago, I kid you not, it really was BF1337. Anyway, I then add course and speed. Then weather. I use the Watch Officer to get the base weather, and then look at the wind speed. I roll another die. On a '3' or '4' it is what it is. On a '1' it's two m/s slower than what he said. On a '2' it's one m/s slower, and on a '5' or '6' it's one or two m/s faster. THEN...I keep in mind what time of year it is, because I'm using the Seasonal setting in SH3 Commander's version of the 'Big Waves' mod. June-July it's normal, August-September and April-May it's x1.25, October-November and February-March it's x1/5, December-January it's x2. So I get wind speeds as high as 30 m/s in winter, which matches what the waves look like with the mod.

Two days ago, August 8, 1939, I was in BF1382, Course 255, Speed 4 kts, Sky Clear, Wind 19 m/s, Sea State 8, Waves 5 meters high. Then I file a Status Report, which for this purpose is useless in the game, but has a chance of telling the Allies where I am, which is realistic.

Me, anal? No way!

On the other hand if you slip off to another grid for the sake of your boat and your crew, who's gonna know (besides the Gestapo spy I mean)?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbuna View Post
Steve is nothing like that...he promised me he would remain faithful....but to who I'm not quite sure
This above all: To thine own self be true.
__________________
"Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right."
– Laurens van der Post

Sailor Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 03:50 PM   #10
Herr-Berbunch
Silent Hunter
 
Herr-Berbunch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AN72
Posts: 11,521
Downloads: 69
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailor Steve View Post
On the other hand if you slip off to another grid for the sake of your boat and your crew, who's gonna know (besides the Gestapo spy I mean)?


This above all: To thine own self be true.
That's my wifes favourite quote and the Gestapo spy, whilst having a rest in the middle of the atlantic whilst there was still the gap, met an unfortunate accident whilst swimming. Well, we dived - I'm guessing he didn't hang on for long.
__________________

Herr-Berbunch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 04:16 PM   #11
Fish In The Water
Prince of
the Sea


SUBSIM
Welcome
Committee

 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Watching over U-253
Posts: 3,531
Downloads: 96
Uploads: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doolar Semler View Post
But sometimes I think Donetz is got it out for me.

...AN81 has a max depth of between 24 to 28 meters, full of mines, has a group of 3 destroyers and a rouge destroyer buzzing around the surface like I just ran over a Yellow Jacket's nest with the lawn mower,(I've actually done that).
Perhaps it's a vote of confidence. He might figure you're the best man for the job!
Fish In The Water is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 04:19 PM   #12
Sailor Steve
Just A Kid At Heart
 
Sailor Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: 600 miles from the nearest ocean.
Posts: 44,811
Downloads: 406
Uploads: 227


Default

Well, you know what they say.

You don't? Good thing I'm here to tell ya. Old enlisted men's saying: If they give you a crappy job and you do it well, your reward will be more crappy jobs.
__________________
"Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right."
– Laurens van der Post

Sailor Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 05:03 PM   #13
Doolar Semler
Planesman
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: U-30 (Baltimore,Md./ CA45)
Posts: 186
Downloads: 125
Uploads: 0
wolf more personial rules

hey, if any-of-ya's got any "personial rules" lets here'm. I know this has been done before, but refresh our memories and share your "personial rules" again. I'm sure there many new ones out there . It'll make the experence for some better. I think I just hyjacked my own thread.
Doolar Semler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 05:58 PM   #14
max-peck
Sparky
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 154
Downloads: 161
Uploads: 0
Default

When it comes to patroling, my rules are a bit more lax than Sailor Steve's.

I partrol the hell out of my assigned grid for a week.
Once that week is up I get to choose an adjacent grid, then patrol that for a week.
Once that week is up I choose another adjacent grid, and so on.

Gives me a certain freedom of movement without me just freelancing wherever the hell I like.

I used to have personal rules about not using the periscope when I was traveling too fast, not reloading externals in rough weather, not reloading internals whilst on the surface in rough weather etc . . .

But no need now, h.sie and stiebler's fixes take care of that for me.
__________________

max-peck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 06:02 PM   #15
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 82,481
Downloads: 42
Uploads: 8


Default

SINK EM ALL!!
__________________
Stop following me...I'm lost!!

GWX3.0 Download Page http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php?r=nkjkl#j35rkcr24g8d2
GWX Website/Home Page
Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim) http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/gwx_donation1207.php
Jimbuna is online   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1997- 2013 Subsim