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06-16-2011, 02:42 PM
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Ace of the Deep
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This mod increases the number of Officers, Chief Petty Officers, and Petty Officers you can have on your sub. So you can now have a crew layout more historically accurate than before.
The reason for creating this mod is that the game defaults for all ranks is set lower than the actual number used, especially during the war. And even worse, the game treats CPOs as Officers, when in fact they were Enlisted personnel, which further reduces the number you can have of each. While the game will start your career with more than the allowed number of each rank, you can't swap men out or increase the number of certain ranks to an historically accurate level without running into the "Too Many..." error message. The number of POs was increased because after looking at several sites with crew lists on them, it appears that only a few out of an entire sub's complement had an ordinary Seaman's rank. In reality, any sailor who had any sort of specialization rating had at least a PO Third Class rank as well. There are three versions of this mod: Crew Rank Fix - Stock - Use with the stock 1.5 game. Crew Rank Fix - RSRDC - Use with the standalone Run Silent, Run Deep the Campaign mod. Crew Rank Fix - With Narwhal Mod - Use with the Subsim.com Narwhal mod. Install AFTER the Narwhal mod. Install using JSGME, or extract the "Data" folder inside the archive into your SH4 installation, clicking "Yes" when it asks if you want to overwrite any folders and files. There're no Real Fleet Boat or Trigger Maru-Overhauled versions because they already have the same type of changes in them, though their numbers are different. The numbers for each class are as follows: Gar Class MaxPettyOfficers=47 MaxOfficers=13 Gato & Balao Class MaxPettyOfficers=59 MaxOfficers=21 Narwhal Class MaxPettyOfficers=70 MaxOfficers=19 Porpoise Class MaxPettyOfficers=43 MaxOfficers=11 S Class MaxPettyOfficers=34 MaxOfficers=9 Salmon & Sargo Class MaxPettyOfficers=48 MaxOfficers=11 Tambor Class MaxPettyOfficers=47 MaxOfficers=13 Tench Class MaxPettyOfficers=60 MaxOfficers=21 Be sure to read the readme.txt for more information. Download from here on Subsim (under Gameplay Mods) From Mediafire: http://www.mediafire.com/?310mafdcqfg0q From Silenthuntermods.com: http://www.silenthuntermods.com/foru....php?board=5.0
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06-16-2011, 03:46 PM
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Just A Kid At Heart
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Beeeyouteeful!
This is something I have always rooted for. The other reality is that even a Seaman 1st or 2nd is working toward one of those ratings. There are no "generic" sailors.
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06-16-2011, 04:11 PM
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Ace of the Deep
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I'm really surprised no one had done this for the 1.5 game, if not earlier.
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Frederick J. Barnett Radio Stations & Music Captain's Desk Photos FJB Camera Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Office links, Info Boxes, & 50 cal Crew Rank Fix Sub Class Info Real Subs SH4 Randomizer Sub Images Office Images Sub Pinups & Pics 24 Hour Clocks Office Posters Nav Map Make-Over Add-ons FJB Navigation Maps Office Window Chronographs Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done! Do you think that's easy?! - Gregory Peck, The Guns of Navarone. |
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06-16-2011, 05:30 PM
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Sonar Guy
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Fred, will this work with TMO? I think Ducimus made several changes to the UPC files that might conflict but I'm away from my game computer and can't load it up to test.
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06-17-2011, 08:05 AM
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Ace of the Deep
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"There're no Real Fleet Boat or Trigger Maru-Overhauled versions because they already have the same type of changes in them, though their numbers are different." In most cases their numbers of Officers and POs are less than what I use, but still more than the stock game allows. If you prefer my numbers (which BTW, are given for each sub class in the included readme file. I may go back and put them in the first post) I would recommend trying the RSRDC version as the rest of the sub info in it may more closely match what's in TMO and RFB.
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Frederick J. Barnett Radio Stations & Music Captain's Desk Photos FJB Camera Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Office links, Info Boxes, & 50 cal Crew Rank Fix Sub Class Info Real Subs SH4 Randomizer Sub Images Office Images Sub Pinups & Pics 24 Hour Clocks Office Posters Nav Map Make-Over Add-ons FJB Navigation Maps Office Window Chronographs Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done! Do you think that's easy?! - Gregory Peck, The Guns of Navarone. |
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06-17-2011, 04:41 PM
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Sonar Guy
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Jeez - sorry, Fred. I don't know how I missed that the first time. Thanks for the info and the research.
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06-17-2011, 08:08 PM
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Electrician's Mate
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Extremely helpful man!
thankyou
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06-18-2011, 08:02 AM
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Fleet Admiral
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Thank you, I'm back playing SH4 and this looks good.
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07-01-2011, 04:40 PM
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Torpedoman
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I thank you for this very much, but I've got a question. First off, the readme states:
"The mod simply adds the following two lines to each sub class's .upc file: MaxPettyOfficers=X ; max number of crewmembers over rank 4 MaxOfficers=X ; max number of crewmembers over rank 7" I'm using TMO, so altering those lines in the appropriate upc file is all that is needed to increase/decrease the POs and CPOs for each sub? Or is there something else that must be changed? For instance, you made this mod compatible for RSRDC, did you have to change anything else for your mod to function correctly in RSRDC?
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07-01-2011, 05:32 PM
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Ace of the Deep
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Frederick J. Barnett Radio Stations & Music Captain's Desk Photos FJB Camera Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Office links, Info Boxes, & 50 cal Crew Rank Fix Sub Class Info Real Subs SH4 Randomizer Sub Images Office Images Sub Pinups & Pics 24 Hour Clocks Office Posters Nav Map Make-Over Add-ons FJB Navigation Maps Office Window Chronographs Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done! Do you think that's easy?! - Gregory Peck, The Guns of Navarone. |
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07-02-2011, 09:03 AM
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07-02-2011, 06:35 PM
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Pacific Thunder
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Nice one Fred, you are kinder to me than I was but your research and reasoning are sound. Thanks!
Happy Hunting! Art
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