"Use HE shells on merchants' radio to prevent them from transmitting your position.."

CCIP · 03-01-2010, 12:20 AM

That's what it said on one of the loading screens for the game.

If that works, that could be a bloody cool feature. And a good indicator for AI developments for this game in general, something we could all sure hope for

conus00 · 03-01-2010, 01:31 AM

U-571.

Oops. Did i say (wrote) it out loud.

Schunken · 03-01-2010, 02:33 AM

I read in the sub-books of Clay Blair that indeed some Subs try to shot the bridge for cut of radio communication....

This would really a cool feature...

Andreas

Noren · 03-01-2010, 03:20 AM

Seriously?

If a radioman cant transmit a statusupdate and location by the time
they get shelled from a lurking sub, then there's something wrong.

Whats next? "shoot the enemy captain and they surrender"?

Sone7 · 03-01-2010, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noren

Seriously?

If a radioman cant transmit a statusupdate and location by the time
they get shelled from a lurking sub, then there's something wrong.

Whats next? "shoot the enemy captain and they surrender"?

Too much negative vibes

It's just difficulty for casuals, can be modded for sure.

By the way, we should check first, if we actually can hit with ease

Schunken · 03-01-2010, 03:27 AM

he can not when your first shell hit....

...no, I know what you mean....to radio "position" and "attack by sub" you need 10 seconds....

I must read the exact story again but a german sub fired on the bridge to stop the radioman from transmitting (most of the crew was in the rudder boats at this time)

Andreas

TH0R · 03-01-2010, 03:46 AM

I don't see why this shouldn't be possible or 'moded out'. It should be hard to achieve / hit, but certainly not impossible.

A radio should be made possible to destroy by a well placed torpedo hit.

Safe-Keeper · 03-01-2010, 05:58 AM

Extra points for hitting the antenna just as they get to "our position is...", for dramatic effect

.

But yes, incredible feature. Should be fun for modders to play with.

Neal Stevens · 03-01-2010, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conus00

U-571.

Oops. Did i say (wrote) it out loud.

Dowly · 03-01-2010, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Extra points for hitting the antenna just as they get to "our position is...", for dramatic effect

.

ROFLMAO!!

kptn_kaiserhof · 03-01-2010, 06:50 AM

good for a lone ship

Hartmann · 03-01-2010, 06:55 AM

It depends but could be very difficult.

In daytime you have to surface at visual range of the ship, and prepare the gun to fire, it could take several seconds , enough time for the ship to use the radio .

In the case that your crew is very fast and can fire in seconds you still have to hit the radio at the first shot and know the exact place.

Frederf · 03-01-2010, 09:27 PM

This is a very interesting question and I hesitate to express a direct "No way" or "Of course" opinion either way. Certainly there is a long list of criteria to be able to radio the position of an attack which could be source of "no radio" outcomes. And still the radio ability is likely rather robust so it might be very difficult to prevent the "radio success" outcome.

Radio Equipment and Crew Ability are two distinct requirements for a radio message to be sent. A radioman without a radio won't succeed just the same as a radio without a radioman won't.

Causes for equipment failure:

General electrical power failure (battery / backup power?)
Radio destroyed (more than one radio?)
Antenna destroyed (more than one antenna?)
Range exceeded (message impossible to send?)

Causes for crew failure:

Death (Torpedo more likely than shell?)
Shock / Panic (Morale-based?)
Imminent sinking (Task prioritization?)

I imagine hitting an ammo or kerosene ship might causes destruction such that any radio operations would be impossible immediately even if it took the hulk of the ship many minutes or hours to sink.

Ducimus · 03-01-2010, 09:34 PM

See that structure topside with the big antenna sticking out of it ?

Yes, sir. That's the radio shack.

You and Wentz get on the deck. On my command, put a shell right through the god damn porthole.

Webster · 03-01-2010, 09:46 PM

i see this being very usefull in low visability where in fog or heavy rain you can be surfaced and on deck before they see you or at least before they can identify you as the enemy.

but ya, in good visability there should be no way to stop being reported in time

03-01-2010, 12:20 AM	#1
CCIP Torpedo Momber Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 9,579 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 2	"Use HE shells on merchants' radio to prevent them from transmitting your position.." That's what it said on one of the loading screens for the game. If that works, that could be a bloody cool feature. And a good indicator for AI developments for this game in general, something we could all sure hope for __________________ I don’t like marches. I'll tell you why: war. It's very similar to disco. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-01-2010, 01:31 AM	#2
conus00 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 763 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 0	U-571. Oops. Did i say (wrote) it out loud. __________________

03-01-2010, 03:46 AM	#7
TH0R XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 421 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	I don't see why this shouldn't be possible or 'moded out'. It should be hard to achieve / hit, but certainly not impossible. A radio should be made possible to destroy by a well placed torpedo hit. __________________ *My IL2 stuff:* LEVEL BOMBING MANUAL v2.0 \| 'MUSTANG'

03-01-2010, 05:58 AM	#8
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,198 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Extra points for hitting the antenna just as they get to "our position is...", for dramatic effect. But yes, incredible feature. Should be fun for modders to play with. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

03-01-2010, 06:55 AM	#12
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,889 Downloads: 144 Uploads: 0	It depends but could be very difficult. In daytime you have to surface at visual range of the ship, and prepare the gun to fire, it could take several seconds , enough time for the ship to use the radio . In the case that your crew is very fast and can fire in seconds you still have to hit the radio at the first shot and know the exact place. __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

03-01-2010, 02:33 AM	#3
Schunken Medic Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 168 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I read in the sub-books of Clay Blair that indeed some Subs try to shot the bridge for cut of radio communication.... This would really a cool feature... Andreas

03-01-2010, 03:20 AM	#4
Noren 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 285 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Seriously? If a radioman cant transmit a statusupdate and location by the time they get shelled from a lurking sub, then there's something wrong. Whats next? "shoot the enemy captain and they surrender"?

03-01-2010, 03:27 AM	#6
Schunken Medic Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 168 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	he can not when your first shell hit.... ...no, I know what you mean....to radio "position" and "attack by sub" you need 10 seconds.... I must read the exact story again but a german sub fired on the bridge to stop the radioman from transmitting (most of the crew was in the rudder boats at this time) Andreas

03-01-2010, 06:50 AM	#11
kptn_kaiserhof XO Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 420 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	good for a lone ship

03-01-2010, 09:27 PM	#13
Frederf Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 882 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 1	This is a very interesting question and I hesitate to express a direct "No way" or "Of course" opinion either way. Certainly there is a long list of criteria to be able to radio the position of an attack which could be source of "no radio" outcomes. And still the radio ability is likely rather robust so it might be very difficult to prevent the "radio success" outcome. Radio Equipment and Crew Ability are two distinct requirements for a radio message to be sent. A radioman without a radio won't succeed just the same as a radio without a radioman won't. Causes for equipment failure: General electrical power failure (battery / backup power?) Radio destroyed (more than one radio?) Antenna destroyed (more than one antenna?) Range exceeded (message impossible to send?) Causes for crew failure: Death (Torpedo more likely than shell?) Shock / Panic (Morale-based?) Imminent sinking (Task prioritization?) I imagine hitting an ammo or kerosene ship might causes destruction such that any radio operations would be impossible immediately even if it took the hulk of the ship many minutes or hours to sink.

03-01-2010, 09:34 PM	#14
Ducimus Black Sheep Join Date: May 2005 Location: "Happy Valley", Utah Posts: 12,217 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	See that structure topside with the big antenna sticking out of it ? Yes, sir. That's the radio shack. You and Wentz get on the deck. On my command, put a shell right through the god damn porthole. __________________ - The Bill of Rights, ( Part 1 ) ( Part 2 ), is not open for debate or reinterpretation, nor is it a "living document". It is the cornerstone upon which liberty in the United States is etched on. - I don't mod anymore. Whatever it is, leave me out of it. For any permission questions, read the last section of the TMO PDF.

03-01-2010, 09:46 PM	#15
Webster Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 5,341 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 51	i see this being very usefull in low visability where in fog or heavy rain you can be surfaced and on deck before they see you or at least before they can identify you as the enemy. but ya, in good visability there should be no way to stop being reported in time __________________ . My Gamefront Page .~~/~~My Mods.~~/~~ (GFO) Game Fixes Only Mod.~~/~~ Mod Soup Fix

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