Malfunctions?

JScones · 08-21-2009, 11:04 PM

Have we any indication yet on whether malfunctions and/or sabotage will be an included option?

The one thing I never liked about the compromised approach within SH3Cmdr was that whilst I could simulate a malfunction, SH3 wouldn't (for obvious reasons) see it as a malfunction and thus wouldn't attempt to repair it while at sea, meaning the player was stuck with malfunctions that in real life an industrious chief would have overcome (I work with an ex RAN CPO and some of the stories he's told me about at-sea repairs are amazing examples of ingenuity).

Sailor Steve · 08-22-2009, 02:23 PM

Even the much-despised SH2 had ocassional engine breakdowns, and warnings from the LI about running too long at flank speed.

I agree that realistic breakdowns would be a welcome addition, especially if they were accompanied by truly realistic repair times.

Payoff · 08-24-2009, 01:27 AM

And the ability to watch the crew make the repairs. Woohoo.

Payoff

YukonJack_AK · 08-24-2009, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

...malfunctions that in real life an industrious chief would have overcome (I work with an ex RAN CPO and some of the stories he's told me about at-sea repairs are amazing examples of ingenuity).

Sounds great to me - always loved the malfuntions/sabatoge that were part of SHCommander!
So does that mean SH5 is shipping with a roll of duct tape, some super-glue, bailing wire and gum?

btw - JScones... are the sabatoge/malfunctions working with GWX3 yet? Just wondering cause thats the only reason I'm still playing GWX2.1... Love the uncertainty of something being broke!

JScones · 08-24-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by YukonJack_AK

btw - JScones... are the sabatoge/malfunctions working with GWX3 yet? Just wondering cause thats the only reason I'm still playing GWX2.1... Love the uncertainty of something being broke!

The GWX team released updated cfg files for SH3Cmdr back in February... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147567

Brag · 08-24-2009, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Even the much-despised SH2 had ocassional engine breakdowns, and warnings from the LI about running too long at flank speed.

I agree that realistic breakdowns would be a welcome addition, especially if they were accompanied by truly realistic repair times.

Imho, malfunctions are a basic requirement. They added a lot of realism to SH2

oscar19681 · 10-09-2009, 11:49 AM

Yes. While playing sh-3 sh-4 and sh-4 Operation monsun with and without sh3 commander i always made test-dives to immerse myself. But after a while it becomes boring because i couldnt help asking myself why make testdives and such while there isnt a reason to do so? I really hope random malfunctions will make it in the sim because i mean comeon! It would make things much more exiting and realistic..

JU_88 · 10-09-2009, 02:36 PM

How about gas contaminiation from Damaged batteries - that could force you to surface?

msalama · 10-09-2009, 02:57 PM

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So does that mean SH5 is shipping with a roll of duct tape, some super-glue, bailing wire and gum?

...plus a couple of spare pistons, a crapload of piston rings, sheet metal, rivets, timber, castor oil, grease, spanners, bolts, nuts and a cupboard full of coveralls!!!

Bring it the f**k on is what I say

PS. And realistic repair times too, please.

sober · 10-09-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by msalama

...plus a couple of spare pistons, a crapload of piston rings, sheet metal, rivets, timber, castor oil, grease, spanners, bolts, nuts and a cupboard full of coveralls!!!

Bring it the f**k on is what I say

PS. And realistic repair times too, please.

I have a uboat engine piston at home if you need a spare .

msalama · 10-09-2009, 03:39 PM

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I have a uboat engine piston at home if you need a spare .

Hmmm... would make the coolest of ashtrays truth be telt

Nah, I'm skint, thanks for asking still

sober · 10-10-2009, 05:27 AM

I keep it on the front porch and use it to put my workboots on top LOL . My brother worked for an engineering firm and the boss had a complete uboat engine that he wanted to donate to a museum . No idea where he got it . No one wanted it so he said he would scrap it for the metal and the workers could take any parts they wanted . My brother gave me a piston and a few engine dials .

irish1958 · 10-10-2009, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

Have we any indication yet on whether malfunctions and/or sabotage will be an included option?

The one thing I never liked about the compromised approach within SH3Cmdr was that whilst I could simulate a malfunction, SH3 wouldn't (for obvious reasons) see it as a malfunction and thus wouldn't attempt to repair it while at sea, meaning the player was stuck with malfunctions that in real life an industrious chief would have overcome (I work with an ex RAN CPO and some of the stories he's told me about at-sea repairs are amazing examples of ingenuity).

If I ever get my mod working, it could do this by writing to the saved game files at least for the crew injuries, illnesses and deaths; I suspect that it could do this for malfunctions also, but I haven't looked into this

Jimbuna · 10-10-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

How about gas contaminiation from Damaged batteries - that could force you to surface?

Good idea JU

Sailor Steve · 10-10-2009, 12:51 PM

Agreed. I think AOD had the warning "Sir, we have chlorine gas leaking! We must surface!"

08-21-2009, 11:04 PM	#1
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,564 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Malfunctions? Have we any indication yet on whether malfunctions and/or sabotage will be an included option? The one thing I never liked about the compromised approach within SH3Cmdr was that whilst I could simulate a malfunction, SH3 wouldn't (for obvious reasons) see it as a malfunction and thus wouldn't attempt to repair it while at sea, meaning the player was stuck with malfunctions that in real life an industrious chief would have overcome (I work with an ex RAN CPO and some of the stories he's told me about at-sea repairs are amazing examples of ingenuity). __________________ Download the JSGME Generic Mod Enabler

08-22-2009, 02:23 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Just A Kid At Heart Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 600 miles from the nearest ocean. Posts: 45,409 Downloads: 411 Uploads: 227	Even the much-despised SH2 had ocassional engine breakdowns, and warnings from the LI about running too long at flank speed. I agree that realistic breakdowns would be a welcome addition, especially if they were accompanied by truly realistic repair times. __________________ "Realism is in how you play, not in the game settings." -Rockin Robbins, Subsim member

08-24-2009, 01:27 AM	#3
Payoff Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nash Town, USA Posts: 587 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And the ability to watch the crew make the repairs. Woohoo. Payoff __________________ "Hit Shokaku class carrier with three out of six torpedos. Recieved 105 depth charges during three hour period. Heard four terrific explosions in the direction of target, two and one half hours after attack. Believe that baby sank!" Lieutenant Commander Herman Kossler USS Cavalla

10-09-2009, 11:49 AM	#7
oscar19681 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,548 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Yes. While playing sh-3 sh-4 and sh-4 Operation monsun with and without sh3 commander i always made test-dives to immerse myself. But after a while it becomes boring because i couldnt help asking myself why make testdives and such while there isnt a reason to do so? I really hope random malfunctions will make it in the sim because i mean comeon! It would make things much more exiting and realistic.. __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

10-09-2009, 02:36 PM	#8
JU_88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,106 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	How about gas contaminiation from Damaged batteries - that could force you to surface? __________________ "We all, at some point, deny the truth in favor of a lie that feels better."

10-10-2009, 05:27 AM	#12
sober Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7,228 Downloads: 630 Uploads: 35	I keep it on the front porch and use it to put my workboots on top LOL . My brother worked for an engineering firm and the boss had a complete uboat engine that he wanted to donate to a museum . No idea where he got it . No one wanted it so he said he would scrap it for the metal and the workers could take any parts they wanted . My brother gave me a piston and a few engine dials .

10-10-2009, 12:51 PM	#15
Sailor Steve Just A Kid At Heart Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 600 miles from the nearest ocean. Posts: 45,409 Downloads: 411 Uploads: 227	Agreed. I think AOD had the warning "Sir, we have chlorine gas leaking! We must surface!" __________________ "Realism is in how you play, not in the game settings." -Rockin Robbins, Subsim member

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