1860 Cotton Production and the 2008 Vote

Enigma · 12-18-2008, 03:52 PM

Ha. Interesting....

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This is the south’s 2008 presidential vote (in red and blue) overlaid by an 1860 map of cotton production (dots).

SteamWake · 12-18-2008, 04:18 PM

Huh I dident know they grew cotton in Texas :p

Theres somethin screwy with that map. Im assuming it was done by electoral votes vs popular votes.

August · 12-18-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Huh I dident know they grew cotton in Texas :p

Theres somethin screwy with that map. Im assuming it was done by electoral votes vs popular votes.

Well Texas isn't on that particular map but yeah there is something screwy about it.

Link please Enigma...

subchaser12 · 12-18-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by August

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Huh I dident know they grew cotton in Texas :p

Theres somethin screwy with that map. Im assuming it was done by electoral votes vs popular votes.

Well Texas isn't on that particular map but yeah there is something screwy about it.

Link please Enigma...

Yeah I was like Texas, where hell is it. Oh, it's not here.

breadcatcher101 · 12-19-2008, 12:43 AM

It appears the nut doesn't fall too far from the tree after all.

Most of the cotton in Alabama at that time was grown in the black belt, named for the color of the soil, not the people.

Etienne · 12-19-2008, 12:46 AM

Am I being too PC, or there's a pretty racist connotation here?

A Very Super Market · 12-19-2008, 12:52 AM

It wouldn't be racist to be logical.

Black people are more inclined to vote Obama, as with most minorities.

1860 cotton fields had high populations of black people.

subchaser12 · 12-19-2008, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Etienne

Am I being too PC, or there's a pretty racist connotation here?

Ya think?

PeriscopeDepth · 12-19-2008, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

1860 cotton fields had high populations of black people.

Oh really? I can't imagine why that is.

PD

caspofungin · 12-19-2008, 03:48 AM

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1860 cotton fields had high populations of black people

and apparently they're still there, 140 years later.

subchaser12 · 12-19-2008, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by caspofungin

and apparently they're still there, 140 years later.

Well the republicans have 8 years to court the black vote. Good luck with that haha

caspofungin · 12-19-2008, 05:50 AM

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and apparently they're still there, 140 years later.

i didn't mean in still in the cotton fields...

i just find it surprising that a map of 1860 black population density is still valid in 2008 -- don't people move? or die?

Enigma · 12-19-2008, 09:09 AM

I knew someone would suggest racist undertones, and I guess thats unavoidable, but I'll point out that I simply found it interesting, based on the map alone. So there.

Here you go August....
http://chrisblattman.blogspot.com/20...e-at-work.html

breadcatcher101 · 12-19-2008, 09:42 AM

Yeah, the old race card gets pulled if you look at someone sideways these days. It gets kinda old really.

Most of the blacks are in the same general areas although I remember a massive move by many back in the '60's to the north, mostly IL (Chicago area I suppose). Never did know why exactly, lots of times it was whole familys, cousins and all. Probably jobs there maybe?

A Very Super Market · 12-19-2008, 10:01 AM

Bleh, now I look like a racist.

Well if one hundred people lived in a single area in 1860, it could be reasonable to assume that a good majority of them still live in the same area

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A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,469 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It wouldn't be racist to be logical. Black people are more inclined to vote Obama, as with most minorities. 1860 cotton fields had high populations of black people. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

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Enigma Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I knew someone would suggest racist undertones, and I guess thats unavoidable, but I'll point out that I simply found it interesting, based on the map alone. So there. Here you go August.... http://chrisblattman.blogspot.com/20...e-at-work.html __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

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12-18-2008, 04:18 PM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,953 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Huh I dident know they grew cotton in Texas :p Theres somethin screwy with that map. Im assuming it was done by electoral votes vs popular votes.

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breadcatcher101 Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 550 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	It appears the nut doesn't fall too far from the tree after all. Most of the cotton in Alabama at that time was grown in the black belt, named for the color of the soil, not the people.

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Etienne Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,125 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Am I being too PC, or there's a pretty racist connotation here?

12-19-2008, 09:42 AM	#14
breadcatcher101 Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 550 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Yeah, the old race card gets pulled if you look at someone sideways these days. It gets kinda old really. Most of the blacks are in the same general areas although I remember a massive move by many back in the '60's to the north, mostly IL (Chicago area I suppose). Never did know why exactly, lots of times it was whole familys, cousins and all. Probably jobs there maybe?