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Old 12-05-2008, 11:01 AM   #1
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Smile 75 Years since the end of Prohibition in the USA

Today's the day to lift a glass guys

http://www.mlive.com/kalamabrew/index.ssf/2008/12/prohibition_overturned.html
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:36 PM   #2
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Cheers!

Here's to failing to learn anything from the experience and the D.E.A.!
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:35 PM   #3
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:rotfl:

While The Untouchables was a sucky movie as far as history goes, it was an okay flick taken on its own merits. I only mention it because I loved the last lines of the movie:

Reporter (thinking he'll get info on Ness's next job): "Mr. Ness, what are you going to do now that prohibition has ended?"

Eliot Ness: "I believe I'll have a drink."
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:46 PM   #4
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The Prohibition is one of those things I have to thank America, some darn good movies have come based on it! The Untouchables, Goodfellas, and of course, the game Mafia.

Kratos, where are ya! Fill what I didnt remember, my memory's abit fuzzy. :p
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:06 PM   #5
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Goodfella's...prohibition? Nah. Goodfella's was set in the 70's!
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:47 PM   #6
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75 years and we're still feeling the damage it caused. Prohibition put the organized in Organized Crime. Without it they would never have evolved beyond the small time pimps and thieves they were before a multi-billion dollar market was tossed into their laps.
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:03 PM   #7
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The problems prohibition caused are still with us stealing, lying, cheating, bribes, greedy officials locally and nation wide. People of indifference, people looking the other way, people using something illegal from pills to dope.

People are the real problem in the end.

They tax the stuff you know ... it's called a sin tax
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Old 12-06-2008, 04:46 AM   #8
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Goodfella's...prohibition? Nah. Goodfella's was set in the 70's!
Ah yes, I cant remember them darn names. :rotfl: Umm... Once upon a time in America? What's the one with them 5 starting as kids and the movie follows them all the way to them being adult gansters? Was that the Once upon time in america? ******ing cant remember.
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:00 AM   #9
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Goodfella's...prohibition? Nah. Goodfella's was set in the 70's!
Ah yes, I cant remember them darn names. :rotfl: Umm... Once upon a time in America? What's the one with them 5 starting as kids and the movie follows them all the way to them being adult gansters? Was that the Once upon time in america? ******ing cant remember.
The prohibition might have done your memory some good ''if you were around then''
yea it was once upon a time in america ...Noodles, cockeye fat moe and the gang
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Old 12-06-2008, 09:17 AM   #10
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Funny, organized crime thrives even when this kind of vice is legal.

One day, probably 400 years from now, man will advance enough where it is no longer socially acceptable to pickle one's brain with drugs.
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Funny, organized crime thrives even when this kind of vice is legal.
It is difficult to make that assertion. The following is a UN report on Criminal Victimization
http://rechten.uvt.nl/icvs/pdffiles/ICVS2004_05.pdf

There is little in it (exceptions include bicycle theft) to clearly indicate that the Netherlands is outside the mean in crime or violent crime, and it is worth noting that public perception of the likleyhood of a crime occurring to them is significantly lower than the average.

Of course, there are many other factors, and you may well be right, but it's a foreign country so it really doesn't bother me one way or the other.

U.S. Federal drug prohibition does bother me, however, if for no other reason than that the ennumerated powers given to the Federal government under the Constitution do not include prohibition of, or policing of, well, anything really.
As with many things, they began by working around the restriction with legislation like the Harrison Act, before eventually just washing their hands of the Constitution entirely with things like the war on drugs.

The States, of course, have no such restrictions and are free to prohibit or promote what they wish, and Washington has often used this as a workaround by authorizing block grants to states that pursue policies they wish to see implemented, which is also unconstitutional.

So, in principle, I have nothing against a prohibition of drugs by the appropriate agencies, even though I don't think it would, will, or ever has worked, other than that it is an erosion of personal liberties.


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One day, probably 400 years from now, man will advance enough where it is no longer socially acceptable to pickle one's brain with drugs.
As long as it isn't a law, that's fine with me. Terrible waste of what would potentially be a multibillion-dollar industry, though
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Goodfella's...prohibition? Nah. Goodfella's was set in the 70's!
Ah yes, I cant remember them darn names. :rotfl: Umm... Once upon a time in America? What's the one with them 5 starting as kids and the movie follows them all the way to them being adult gansters? Was that the Once upon time in america? ******ing cant remember.
The prohibition might have done your memory some good ''if you were around then''
yea it was once upon a time in america ...Noodles, cockeye fat moe and the gang
Ah yes, need to watch the movie again tomorrow. Great it is.
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Old 12-06-2008, 11:38 AM   #13
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Prohibition killed american beer.
Ever since these days, the average american regards beer flavored lemonade as beer.
Back in the 90s when there were still a lot of GIs in Frankfurt it was funny that a high school student like me could drink an entire infantry squad under the table.
They adapted, though...
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Prohibition killed american beer.
Ever since these days, the average american regards beer flavored lemonade as beer.
Back in the 90s when there were still a lot of GIs in Frankfurt it was funny that a high school student like me could drink an entire infantry squad under the table.
They adapted, though...
Hey just because you Germans think that teen aged alcoholism is some sort of liver destroying badge of honor it doesn't mean that all our beer is like Budweiser or Coors. I'd stack up our micro brewed beer against German beer any day.

Besides, I've drank my share of German beer and i'm here to tell you it ain't all that great. Yeah it has a higher alcohol content but so does good old American Ever Clear, and English beer tends to be better tasting in my experience even if it is served piss warm like you people tend to favor.

Nothing but love for ya though...
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Old 12-06-2008, 12:45 PM   #15
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75 years and we're still feeling the damage it caused. Prohibition put the organized in Organized Crime. Without it they would never have evolved beyond the small time pimps and thieves they were before a multi-billion dollar market was tossed into their laps.
Yeah, where would the Kennedys be w/o prohibition?
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