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Old 09-27-2008, 11:35 AM   #1
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Default Can the future be predicted 100 years in advance?

Can men make predictions or prophecies this far into the future and then have them come true long after their death?

This man was a millionaire in the late 1800's which would be like a billionarie today.

I ponder, but I do not worry ... what will come to pass will come to pass.

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Regretfully I have no literal version of his predictions, but he is quite well known for accurately predicting
the sinking of the Titanic and naming one of its victims, millionaire John Jacob Astor VI. Johansson
foresaw the events of World War I, accurately predicted San Francisco's earthquake of 1906 and
a volcanic eruption in 1902 that demolished the city of St. Pierre, Mertinique.

He said the Third World War would break out at "the end of July, beginning of August."
He further added: "I do not know the year."
Johansson predicted the following details:

1) India will be occupied by china.
2) New diseases used as weapons will cause 25 million people to die.
3) Persia and Turkey will be conquered by what seem to be Russian troops.
4) Revolutionaries will instigate unrest and war in India and Egypt to facilitate the occupation of India and Europe.
5) The Russians will conquer the Balkans.
6) There will be great destruction in Italy.
7) The "red storm" will approach France through Hungary, Austria, northern Italy and Switzerland. France will be conquered from inside and outside.
8) American supply depots will fall into Russian hands.
9) Germany will be attacked from the east.
10) There will be a civil war, Germans will fight against Germans.
11) The Eastern Bloc will cause a civil war in England.
12) Russia will lead a mass attack against the United States, so U.S. forces will be prevented from reinforcing Europe.
13) New weapons will cause huge hurricanes and firestorms in the USA where the largest cities will be destroyed.
--- Anton Johansson, Sweden, (1858 - 1909)


Research (just google Anton Johansson):

http://xmb.stuffucanuse.com/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=1315
http://www.jrnyquist.com/may14/new_page_2.htm
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:09 PM   #2
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On the German civil war portion - I can guess which side some of our members here will be fighting on!

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Old 09-27-2008, 12:51 PM   #3
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It sounds quite a bit like Edgar Cayce's predictions. I wish I could find someone to accurately give me the lotto numbers though...
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:25 PM   #4
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Reminds me of Morgan Robertson, who wrote about Futility - The Wreck of the Titan in which the Titan was nearly identical to the Titanic (the date of the sinking, size of the ship, number of passengers, and cause of the sinking were all identical!). He also wrote about both World Wars and "sun bombs", which could destroy entire cities and would blind anyone who looked right at them. These "sun bombs" were dropped by "motorized kites".

I think it's possible to predict the future (I've had deja vu moments), but I'm skeptical about the supernatural backgrounds that are supposedly involved with this sort of stuff.
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:35 PM   #5
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The "red storm"?

Damn, those commies all over again!

Anyway, looks like it won't happen this year, maybe next year :p
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:51 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by geetrue
Can men make predictions or prophecies this far into the future and then have them come true long after their death?



Research (just google Anton Johansson):

http://xmb.stuffucanuse.com/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=1315
http://www.jrnyquist.com/may14/new_page_2.htm
Well I googled him and couldn't find any of his predictions which have come about, there are a great many random utterances with the words chemical weapons in parentheses after them but that does not make an accurate prediction. What was the 'accurate' prediction the Titanic would sink? a big ship will sink sometime this century?

One of the pages even postulated that 9 times 99 might equal 1999- not on my calculator! (I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader )

I know we all want to believe but this rather streches incredulity.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:41 PM   #7
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Nah those are lies.

I don't believe any man could see into the future at least man himself.
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:27 AM   #8
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Give me another scotch on the rocks, I'm having a vision!
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:29 AM   #9
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A vision of pink elephants?
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Can-can girls woohoo!!!!!!!! Yippee!!!!! Whoops, sorry about the carpet sir!

Oh, and add two vodka martinees to that scotch for my two friends here.
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And fetch me a jar of peanut butter.
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:58 AM   #12
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@Sh Classic!

My predictions:

Ubi will be working on SH75: Chahuahuas of the Baja. Sink the drug submarines

Planet of the apes will come true

The CSA (Chinese States of America) will finally subdue Idaho and Montana

The Vikings will finally win a superbowl

Jimbuna will have 400,000,000,536 posts

Steed will come back, for the 85th time.

Neal will be riding a suzuki walker in the old folks home

Sailor Steve will need to be carbon dated!

all of Europe will be speaking arabic

The Rolling Stones will do a Re-union tour in Vegas
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:59 AM   #13
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@Nikimcbee
Except that the Vikings will never win a Superbowl, the rest of your predictions are probably on target...

Question though: If telephone psychics are so good, why don't they call You?
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:08 AM   #14
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Except that the Vikings will never win a Superbowl, the rest of your predictions are probably on target...

Question though: If telephone psychics are so good, why don't they call You?
I didn't pay the phone bill.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:12 AM   #15
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Except that the Vikings will never win a Superbowl, the rest of your predictions are probably on target...

Question though: If telephone psychics are so good, why don't they call You?

I kid you not, we had a psychic fair in Aylesbury cancelled due to 'unforeseen circumstances'
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