Obama running scared. Refuse to debate Clinton - Page 11

Tchocky · 05-14-2008, 06:18 AM

John Edwards got 7% of the vote in WV.
Just like Huckabee and Paul are picking up +10% results in Republican primaries. The implication is rather obvious, the damn thing's over.

TDK1044 · 05-14-2008, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky

John Edwards got 7% of the vote in WV.
Just like Huckabee and Paul are picking up +10% results in Republican primaries. The implication is rather obvious, the damn thing's over.

Obvious to all but NEON, Tchocky. He'll proudly post her Kentucky victory as a sign that she's still in the race.....a race she hasn't been in for weeks.

TDK1044 · 05-14-2008, 07:12 AM

Barack Obama
Pledged: 1599
Superdelegates: 282
Total: 1,881

Hillary Clinton
Pledged: 1440
Superdelegates: 273
Total: 1,713

So, even after WV, she is 168 delegates behind. He's also now ahead of her in SD pledges. More SDs will pledge for him as the days go on, completely negating any gain she'll get out of KY. She'll make a little ground in Puerto Rico, but he'll win Oregon and Montana and the SDs will continue to trickle.

I guess we'll have to wait until June 3rd before Hillary finally gets it though. Pathetic really.

Tchocky · 05-14-2008, 08:11 AM

It's gotta be tough being a committed (no pun intended, yet) Clinton supporter at this stage.
She started as front-runner, but ran an incumbents campaign with a staff based on loyalty rather than competence.
It's gotta bite to have that kind of loooonnng but interminable turnaround.

I mean, at least the most spectacular political disaster of the last few years, Guiliani's campaign, was over quickly.

TDK1044 · 05-14-2008, 08:30 AM

I agree with you. Hillary was the stronger candidate. But the fact of the matter is that Obama ran a brilliant campaign and she ran a very poor one.

While her campaign manager was busy telling all who would listen that this would all be over by Super Tuesday, it apparently didn't occur to anyone in the Clinton campaign that they were up against an eloquent, articulate, likable candidate who really knows how to work the room. So the Obama strategy was to work every caucus State hard and negate her gains in the bigger States. Clinton chose not to caucus at all...a mistake of monumental proportions.

Because of that mistake, this race has been over since Indiana.

AVGWarhawk · 05-14-2008, 11:16 AM

Perhaps she should change stratagies and run as a independent. :hmm:

TDK1044 · 05-14-2008, 11:19 AM

That would be fun, AVG.

AVGWarhawk · 05-14-2008, 11:37 AM

Stranger things have happened. If she did that, McCain would be out for sure.

TDK1044 · 05-14-2008, 01:28 PM

Better still...she could run in Canada...they'll let anyone in there

Is that RDP I see coming!!!

NEON DEON · 05-15-2008, 12:51 AM

Obama weakness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y...eature=related

"I will slow our development of future combat systems"

Obama is the bubble boy :p

TDK1044 · 05-15-2008, 05:57 AM

Hillary is now being totally ignored by everyone. She's simply not relevant. Obama picked up four more SDs yesterday, and John Edwards also endorsed him.

Hillary's only slight hope for success came on the night of the Indiana and North Carolina primaries. She needed to do two things on that night in order to gain momentum and potentially attract super delegates.

She needed to win Indiana comfortably, and she needed to cut his NC victory to single digits. She did neither of those things. She won Indiana by the skin of her teeth and he won NC by 16 points. In the weeks since then, he has been endorsed by 34 SDs and she has been endorsed by 2.

As a result of her meaningless victory in WV, Obama has a 168 delegate lead over her...the biggest lead he's ever had. This pattern will continue. She'll win Kentucky and Puerto Rico, and she and NEON will be the only two people in the Country who think that it actually means anything.

Obama will win Oregon and Montana, and the SDs will continue to endorse him. Come June 3rd, she will finally be forced out of the race, and she'll go and prepare for another run in either 4 or 8 years.

AVGWarhawk · 05-15-2008, 08:12 AM

At this point, Hillary is wasting media time between the two nominees. It is great she is a fighter and such, but the numbers do not stack in her favor.....see you in 4 years Hillary.

TDK1044 · 05-15-2008, 01:59 PM

Sadly, I think you're right. She will run again.

NEON DEON · 05-16-2008, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Sadly, I think you're right. She will run again.

Yes she will run again as the incumbent President!

TDK you are Quite entertaining yourself!

Come on who are you "really"?

Keith Olbermann?

TDK1044 · 05-16-2008, 05:53 AM

Barack Obama
Pledged: 1608
Superdelegates: 291
Total: 1,899

Hillary Clinton
Pledged: 1445
Superdelegates: 274
Total: 1,719

Today he's 180 delegates ahead. I'd say your incumbent needs a mathematical miracle, NEON.

05-14-2008, 06:18 AM	#151
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,193 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	John Edwards got 7% of the vote in WV. Just like Huckabee and Paul are picking up +10% results in Republican primaries. The implication is rather obvious, the damn thing's over. __________________ -

05-14-2008, 08:11 AM	#154
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,193 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	It's gotta be tough being a committed (no pun intended, yet) Clinton supporter at this stage. She started as front-runner, but ran an incumbents campaign with a staff based on loyalty rather than competence. It's gotta bite to have that kind of loooonnng but interminable turnaround. I mean, at least the most spectacular political disaster of the last few years, Guiliani's campaign, was over quickly. __________________ -

05-14-2008, 11:16 AM	#156
AVGWarhawk Buick Driver Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 23,490 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Perhaps she should change stratagies and run as a independent. :hmm: __________________ Good hands. Bad taste in cars.

05-14-2008, 11:37 AM	#158
AVGWarhawk Buick Driver Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 23,490 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Stranger things have happened. If she did that, McCain would be out for sure. __________________ Good hands. Bad taste in cars.

05-15-2008, 12:51 AM	#160
NEON DEON Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,214 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 5	Obama weakness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y...eature=related *"I will slow our development of future combat systems"* Obama is the bubble boy :p __________________ Diesel Boats Forever!

05-14-2008, 07:12 AM	#153
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,672 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Barack Obama Pledged: 1599 Superdelegates: 282 Total: 1,881 Hillary Clinton Pledged: 1440 Superdelegates: 273 Total: 1,713 So, even after WV, she is 168 delegates behind. He's also now ahead of her in SD pledges. More SDs will pledge for him as the days go on, completely negating any gain she'll get out of KY. She'll make a little ground in Puerto Rico, but he'll win Oregon and Montana and the SDs will continue to trickle. I guess we'll have to wait until June 3rd before Hillary finally gets it though. Pathetic really.

05-14-2008, 08:30 AM	#155
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,672 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I agree with you. Hillary was the stronger candidate. But the fact of the matter is that Obama ran a brilliant campaign and she ran a very poor one. While her campaign manager was busy telling all who would listen that this would all be over by Super Tuesday, it apparently didn't occur to anyone in the Clinton campaign that they were up against an eloquent, articulate, likable candidate who really knows how to work the room. So the Obama strategy was to work every caucus State hard and negate her gains in the bigger States. Clinton chose not to caucus at all...a mistake of monumental proportions. Because of that mistake, this race has been over since Indiana.

05-14-2008, 11:19 AM	#157
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,672 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	That would be fun, AVG.

05-14-2008, 01:28 PM	#159
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,672 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Better still...she could run in Canada...they'll let anyone in there Is that RDP I see coming!!!

05-15-2008, 05:57 AM	#161
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,672 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Hillary is now being totally ignored by everyone. She's simply not relevant. Obama picked up four more SDs yesterday, and John Edwards also endorsed him. Hillary's only slight hope for success came on the night of the Indiana and North Carolina primaries. She needed to do two things on that night in order to gain momentum and potentially attract super delegates. She needed to win Indiana comfortably, and she needed to cut his NC victory to single digits. She did neither of those things. She won Indiana by the skin of her teeth and he won NC by 16 points. In the weeks since then, he has been endorsed by 34 SDs and she has been endorsed by 2. As a result of her meaningless victory in WV, Obama has a 168 delegate lead over her...the biggest lead he's ever had. This pattern will continue. She'll win Kentucky and Puerto Rico, and she and NEON will be the only two people in the Country who think that it actually means anything. Obama will win Oregon and Montana, and the SDs will continue to endorse him. Come June 3rd, she will finally be forced out of the race, and she'll go and prepare for another run in either 4 or 8 years.

05-15-2008, 08:12 AM	#162
AVGWarhawk Buick Driver Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 23,490 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	At this point, Hillary is wasting media time between the two nominees. It is great she is a fighter and such, but the numbers do not stack in her favor.....see you in 4 years Hillary. __________________ Good hands. Bad taste in cars.

05-15-2008, 01:59 PM	#163
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,672 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Sadly, I think you're right. She will run again.

05-16-2008, 05:53 AM	#165
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,672 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Barack Obama Pledged: 1608 Superdelegates: 291 Total: 1,899 Hillary Clinton Pledged: 1445 Superdelegates: 274 Total: 1,719 Today he's 180 delegates ahead. I'd say your incumbent needs a mathematical miracle, NEON.

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