Task Force Fest 1.0 MOD released

03-21-08, 04:08 AM

-What is this?
A small fix that greatly increases taskforces and taskforce-radio contacts on SH3 1.4b. It does not work with GWX or other supermods.

-Why?
After over twenty patrols and not one single TF i wanted to try them out. I was sick of sinking lone destroyers and C2.

-How do i install it?
Move your original Campaign_RND.mis to a safe location so you can rollback and place this one there instead (some reports say you cannot keep the original in the same folder even if you rename it) in folder "SilentHunterIII\data\Campaigns\Campaign". You must start a new career for it to take effect.

-But... this isnt a realism mod!
No not at all, and it doesnt try to be one. Its more of a training/action mod to learn to deal with TFs and do a lot of shooting (and dying damn those DD are dangerous when running in packs). There is already plenty of good realism mods out there.

-How does it work?
I use only origninal TFs, but change many of the "light cruiser only" TFs to include other ships. Most TFs now spans from 1940 to end 1944. I added mostly carriers, battlecruisers, heavy cruisers and some BB. The TFs are still fast and with lost of deadly DD trying to sink you after your initial burst of torpedoes.

-Where do i find TFs?
Just like in the orignal, around the british isles, gibraltar, outside Norway etc. It wont be a problem becouse the radiocontacts are so high, youll see approx location on the map eventually. This can also be used to learn the routes of TFs in the original game, as i have merely multiplied their density. I hang out a lot west of the british channel. Sunk a heavy cruiser and got away! Next game i sunk me a nice BB but then the DDs totally ripped me apart so i didnt get home with that nice tonnage... Carriers are also much more common then in stock SH3.

-Does this increase loading times?
Nope.

-Could you tweak it some more for me?
Nah, i will probably move on to other things, but just look at the file and compare it to the original, you'll see what its all about. If you have a problem ask here, although almost everyone on this forums are more experienced than me

Enjoy the Task force Fest, everyone is invited!
Erik Hellström, Sweden

5MB script-file: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/9/...mpaign_RND.mis

jpm1 · 03-21-08, 08:12 AM

Sounds nice , dowloading

03-25-08, 07:46 AM

Damn, TFs are hard. But fun, there was way to much waiting in the original game for me.

Sunk a BB and got away, horray! But normally those DD kill me. They can always drop depth charges even if im at 100m depth and hit right on. And i shut down engine and put silent running on but they just ping me instead... Is that really fair? The only way to survive is sometimes to surface and let them crash into you and sink... It should be easier to escape when diving deep and silent.
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CapZap1970 · 03-25-08, 08:26 AM

Suliman:
Great job!!!

Thank you very much, I will start making my trtaining against thos SOB's right now!!
CapZap

CB.. · 03-25-08, 09:07 AM

Well done!
from the point of view of the AI and destroyer capabilities agression etc etc..you might find this usefull..

http://www.ebort2.co.uk/files/AIFight2.zip

it's a small AI agression mod i made a while back to satisfy a few problems of my own with the gameplay etc...
it's by no means an easy option regarding the difficulty levels the escorts present BUT and here's the main issue...they get in attack you and then get back to escorting the convoys etc..so one mistake doesn't leave you stranded in yet another interminable 3 hour dc attack...(i simply DONT HAVE THE TIME!!! and it's a bit of a illusion any way IMO..)

here what happens is that even tho the AI is much tougher than stock..they can be fooled...and their weak spots can be exploited ..a DD detects you at say 5000 metres from the convoy..on one of his periodic sensor sweeps out to one side of the ships...zooms over attacks perhaps twice then heads at flank back to his escort position...meaning....you can happily follow him in at a reasonable rate of knots....your now in his blind spot..
anyway that's the sort of tactic you can employ with the mod..amoungst others best left to the individual to discover..find your own "picard maneuvers" to coin a phrase etc..that's what the twist is supposed to be about right?..get it wrong and your in for problems but if you survive then you haven't spent 3 hours wiggling about at 150 metres for no obvious benifit! (as stock there is NO picard maneuver again ,to coin a phrase..you can't lose the escorts..it only appears that way IMO)

anyhuw.i made this mod for those folks who realy enjoy the game BUT can't be doing with all the faffing about!

a game is a game is a game..it's meant to be individualy entertaining...and serves no other real purpose AFAIK!

06-11-08, 09:18 PM

Ello Suliman,
Great mod and thank you, my only concern is that now i'm overrun by task forces and contact messages.

I gather you're not interested in tweaking it ( understandable since you can't please everyone with things like this) and have probably long since moved on to other things.

So my enquiry is this:

I'd like to mod the Task force generation settings and messages so that i see maybe one or two task forces per patrol, that way i may only be able to interept one every half dozen patrols or so, but when i do it will be a really special event.

So which edit program do i need to be able to alter the settings?
And which settings (command line values) would i need to edit please?

Thanks again for your work

kiwi_2005 · 06-17-08, 03:40 AM

Same request as roadhogg, i just want less TF on the map maybe just 1 TF every patrol, at the moment i get around 20

To many, to confusing, "which one should I take on" confusing. Also how do i get them to not show on the map updates. Map updates is turned off in the settings.

06-23-08, 01:33 PM

I'm not sure if this is accurate Kiwi, but in the Campaign _RND theres a line in each BR Task Force entry that says:

ReportPosProbability=

You could try setting it to =0

You can open it with wordpad.

Go to SH3/data/campaigns/campaign and look for the RND file.

It means editing each British task force entry manually, ( i think theres 38-40 of them) but they're near the top of the file so once you find them it shouldn't take long.
Scroll down about an inch in the side bar and you shouldn't be far away from the Br tf entries.
Personally i went back to the original campaign file and edited it to increase the probabiltiy of it being reported a bit, therefore making it a bit more likely to intercept one.

irish1958 · 06-23-08, 04:40 PM

In GWX2.1 you can use SH3Contacts to mess around with single ships, convoys, and task forces.
I have used this mod extensively in testing.

03-21-08, 04:08 AM	#1
suliman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	[REL] Task Force Fest 1.0 MOD -What is this? A small fix that greatly increases taskforces and taskforce-radio contacts on SH3 1.4b. It does not work with GWX or other supermods. -Why? After over twenty patrols and not one single TF i wanted to try them out. I was sick of sinking lone destroyers and C2. -How do i install it? Move your original Campaign_RND.mis to a safe location so you can rollback and place this one there instead (some reports say you cannot keep the original in the same folder even if you rename it) in folder "SilentHunterIII\data\Campaigns\Campaign". You must start a new career for it to take effect. -But... this isnt a realism mod! No not at all, and it doesnt try to be one. Its more of a training/action mod to learn to deal with TFs and do a lot of shooting (and dying damn those DD are dangerous when running in packs). There is already plenty of good realism mods out there. -How does it work? I use only origninal TFs, but change many of the "light cruiser only" TFs to include other ships. Most TFs now spans from 1940 to end 1944. I added mostly carriers, battlecruisers, heavy cruisers and some BB. The TFs are still fast and with lost of deadly DD trying to sink you after your initial burst of torpedoes. -Where do i find TFs? Just like in the orignal, around the british isles, gibraltar, outside Norway etc. It wont be a problem becouse the radiocontacts are so high, youll see approx location on the map eventually. This can also be used to learn the routes of TFs in the original game, as i have merely multiplied their density. I hang out a lot west of the british channel. Sunk a heavy cruiser and got away! Next game i sunk me a nice BB but then the DDs totally ripped me apart so i didnt get home with that nice tonnage... Carriers are also much more common then in stock SH3. -Does this increase loading times? Nope. -Could you tweak it some more for me? Nah, i will probably move on to other things, but just look at the file and compare it to the original, you'll see what its all about. If you have a problem ask here, although almost everyone on this forums are more experienced than me Enjoy the Task force Fest, everyone is invited! Erik Hellström, Sweden 5MB script-file: http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/9/...mpaign_RND.mis Last edited by suliman; 03-21-08 at 09:10 AM.

03-25-08, 08:26 AM	#4
CapZap1970 Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: La Paz, Bolivia Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 51	Suliman: Great job!!! Thank you very much, I will start making my trtaining against thos SOB's right now!! CapZap __________________

03-25-08, 09:07 AM	#5
CB.. Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well done! from the point of view of the AI and destroyer capabilities agression etc etc..you might find this usefull.. http://www.ebort2.co.uk/files/AIFight2.zip it's a small AI agression mod i made a while back to satisfy a few problems of my own with the gameplay etc... it's by no means an easy option regarding the difficulty levels the escorts present BUT and here's the main issue...they get in attack you and then get back to escorting the convoys etc..so one mistake doesn't leave you stranded in yet another interminable 3 hour dc attack...(i simply DONT HAVE THE TIME!!! and it's a bit of a illusion any way IMO..) here what happens is that even tho the AI is much tougher than stock..they can be fooled...and their weak spots can be exploited ..a DD detects you at say 5000 metres from the convoy..on one of his periodic sensor sweeps out to one side of the ships...zooms over attacks perhaps twice then heads at flank back to his escort position...meaning....you can happily follow him in at a reasonable rate of knots....your now in his blind spot.. anyway that's the sort of tactic you can employ with the mod..amoungst others best left to the individual to discover..find your own "picard maneuvers" to coin a phrase etc..that's what the twist is supposed to be about right?..get it wrong and your in for problems but if you survive then you haven't spent 3 hours wiggling about at 150 metres for no obvious benifit! (as stock there is NO picard maneuver again ,to coin a phrase..you can't lose the escorts..it only appears that way IMO) anyhuw.i made this mod for those folks who realy enjoy the game BUT can't be doing with all the faffing about! a game is a game is a game..it's meant to be individualy entertaining...and serves no other real purpose AFAIK! __________________ the world's tinyiest sh3 supermod- and other SH3/SH2 stuff http://www.ebort2.co.uk/ The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B.Yeats Last edited by CB..; 03-25-08 at 09:19 AM.

06-17-08, 03:40 AM	#7
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Same request as roadhogg, i just want less TF on the map maybe just 1 TF every patrol, at the moment i get around 20 To many, to confusing, "which one should I take on" confusing. Also how do i get them to not show on the map updates. Map updates is turned off in the settings. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

06-23-08, 04:40 PM	#9
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	In GWX2.1 you can use SH3Contacts to mess around with single ships, convoys, and task forces. I have used this mod extensively in testing. __________________ Irish1958

03-21-08, 08:12 AM	#2
jpm1 Captain Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 544 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Sounds nice , dowloading

03-25-08, 07:46 AM	#3
suliman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Damn, TFs are hard. But fun, there was way to much waiting in the original game for me. Sunk a BB and got away, horray! But normally those DD kill me. They can always drop depth charges even if im at 100m depth and hit right on. And i shut down engine and put silent running on but they just ping me instead... Is that really fair? The only way to survive is sometimes to surface and let them crash into you and sink... It should be easier to escape when diving deep and silent. E

06-11-08, 09:18 PM	#6
roadhogg Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Ello Suliman, Great mod and thank you, my only concern is that now i'm overrun by task forces and contact messages. I gather you're not interested in tweaking it ( understandable since you can't please everyone with things like this) and have probably long since moved on to other things. So my enquiry is this: I'd like to mod the Task force generation settings and messages so that i see maybe one or two task forces per patrol, that way i may only be able to interept one every half dozen patrols or so, but when i do it will be a really special event. So which edit program do i need to be able to alter the settings? And which settings (command line values) would i need to edit please? Thanks again for your work

06-23-08, 01:33 PM	#8
roadhogg Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'm not sure if this is accurate Kiwi, but in the Campaign _RND theres a line in each BR Task Force entry that says: ReportPosProbability= You could try setting it to =0 You can open it with wordpad. Go to SH3/data/campaigns/campaign and look for the RND file. It means editing each British task force entry manually, ( i think theres 38-40 of them) but they're near the top of the file so once you find them it shouldn't take long. Scroll down about an inch in the side bar and you shouldn't be far away from the Br tf entries. Personally i went back to the original campaign file and edited it to increase the probabiltiy of it being reported a bit, therefore making it a bit more likely to intercept one.