Shadowing convoy

clayp · 03-06-2008, 05:14 PM

I'm shadowing this BIG convoy,16 or 18 ships...The seas are extremely high and I cant see well from the attack periscope even at a depth of 40'..Also when I do see them in the scope the thing amajig on the left of the screen wont tell me what kind or how close...So I'm waiting for the seas to calm or full dark so I can try a surface attack..Any comments?

Digital_Trucker · 03-06-2008, 06:01 PM

Never mind, I misread the post.

Edit: keep going up until you can see?

1480 · 03-06-2008, 06:10 PM

What DT says and you won't get anything on the thingahmajig (TDC) till you get to within 7500 yards or so. Use your sonar to get a range estimate and a better feel for the course and speed, if you got the nomograph then its somewhat easy. Trust me the only class I ever got a D in school was trig and calculus(sp).

Rockin Robbins · 03-06-2008, 06:12 PM

This is a great time to study up on WernerSobe's sonar only attack procedure. You can actually use the fact that you can't see (and they can't see you) to your advantage! Save the game first so if you blow the attack you can go back and try it again. This is the time to learn something really fun and make new homes for millions of fishies!

Save that game though.

This situation is very rare and it's the perfect setup to learn the sonar only attack: the most fun you can have in Silent Hunter 4. Go get em!

Triad773 · 03-06-2008, 08:45 PM

That vid looks promising to me Rockin Robbins. I too was just wondering would you always need to be at peri. depth or surface to get enough of a fix on the enemy to attack.

Thanks

Triad

clayp · 03-06-2008, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1480

What DT says and you won't get anything on the thingahmajig (TDC) till you get to within 7500 yards or so. Use your sonar to get a range estimate and a better feel for the course and speed, if you got the nomograph then its somewhat easy. Trust me the only class I ever got a D in school was trig and calculus(sp).

I dont know how to do this....Thank you all for the answers..I D/L the video and will look at it tomorrow....

AkbarGulag · 03-06-2008, 10:58 PM

Sometimes weather is so bad Clayp, that you can not see an enemy vessel unless your within 300 metres

clayp · 03-07-2008, 09:23 AM

I watched that video....

Maybe if I watched it 10,000 times I may understand what he is doing...

howler93 · 03-07-2008, 01:24 PM

Stick with it Clay! I was confused with it at first too...but when you get it, it IS satisfying- just as Rockin Robbins suggested. What helped me was to try Sobe's method and keep cross referencing the attack map solution.

GOOD LUCK!

Howler

clayp · 03-07-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howler93

Stick with it Clay! I was confused with it at first too...but when you get it, it IS satisfying- just as Rockin Robbins suggested. What helped me was to try Sobe's method and keep cross referencing the attack map solution.

GOOD LUCK!

Howler

I understand what you are saying Howler but I dont understand how use the maps and do all that figureing etc..I'm going to attack that convoy and just do the best I can...

SuperCavitation · 03-07-2008, 04:29 PM

This tutorial-movie is outstanding! Helps to have a calculator handy, doesn't it?

Awesome!

Did you get them, Clay?

clayp · 03-07-2008, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperCavitation

This tutorial-movie is outstanding! Helps to have a calculator handy, doesn't it?

Awesome!

Did you get them, Clay?

No I havent yet..I was very close to them,I have the game set so it does the fireing solutions but it dosent seem to be working..

It wont give me any ship types,no triangles and no distance to the ships..

I tried to surface and keep a low profile but the waves are towering over the boat...

I'm still following them...How long does it take for the sea to calm down a bit?

Rockin Robbins · 03-07-2008, 04:52 PM

And for those brave souls wanting to try sonar targeting, it depends on what mods you're using. If you're running the stock game it probably won't matter much. With Trigger Maru and Real Fleet Boat sonar has been severely hampered on the surface and you should be at periscope depth. In r/l sonar on the surface during a storm would be terrible anyway.

Let us know what happens Clayp, no matter what. If all you get out of it is a good story, that's a fine payoff!

SuperCavitation · 03-07-2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clayp

How long does it take for the sea to calm down a bit?

I've had to cross whole latitudes to see a change, but that could just be me.

clayp · 03-07-2008, 05:37 PM

Well I'm going to quit for awhile,tried to surface the boat and the sea is so rough it wont stay up..Going to take a nap and try later..

03-06-2008, 05:14 PM	#1
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,555 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	Shadowing convoy I'm shadowing this BIG convoy,16 or 18 ships...The seas are extremely high and I cant see well from the attack periscope even at a depth of 40'..Also when I do see them in the scope the thing amajig on the left of the screen wont tell me what kind or how close...So I'm waiting for the seas to calm or full dark so I can try a surface attack..Any comments? __________________ clayp

03-06-2008, 06:01 PM	#2
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,150 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 7	Never mind, I misread the post. Edit: keep going up until you can see? __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.

03-06-2008, 06:10 PM	#3
1480 The Old Man Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chitcago, Illinoise Posts: 1,435 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	What DT says and you won't get anything on the thingahmajig (TDC) till you get to within 7500 yards or so. Use your sonar to get a range estimate and a better feel for the course and speed, if you got the nomograph then its somewhat easy. Trust me the only class I ever got a D in school was trig and calculus(sp). __________________ Last edited by 1480; 03-06-2008 at 06:53 PM.

03-06-2008, 06:12 PM	#4
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 5,648 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 22	It's kind of a stretch but.... This is a great time to study up on WernerSobe's sonar only attack procedure. You can actually use the fact that you can't see (and they can't see you) to your advantage! Save the game first so if you blow the attack you can go back and try it again. This is the time to learn something really fun and make new homes for millions of fishies! Save that game though. This situation is very rare and it's the perfect setup to learn the sonar only attack: the most fun you can have in Silent Hunter 4. Go get em! __________________ You'll just have to remember what this is supposed to look like... Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Trans-Atlantic Radio, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4 Report 3.1.0.0beta

03-06-2008, 08:45 PM	#5
Triad773 Seaman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Midwest US: Great Lakes Posts: 39 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That vid looks promising to me Rockin Robbins. I too was just wondering would you always need to be at peri. depth or surface to get enough of a fix on the enemy to attack. Thanks Triad __________________ Any landing you can walk away from may be a good one, but if you get shot down over water, you better hope one of our subs gets to you before the sharks, or enemy do! Last edited by Triad773; 03-06-2008 at 09:09 PM.

03-06-2008, 10:58 PM	#7
AkbarGulag Samurai Navy Join Date: May 2007 Location: cfgdatsimZOMGddstgasns Posts: 569 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 1	Sometimes weather is so bad Clayp, that you can not see an enemy vessel unless your within 300 metres __________________ "6 days into his patrol, the first enemy ship was spotted... a trawler... ...It was at this point, Captain AkbarGulag realised how green his crew was..."

03-07-2008, 09:23 AM	#8
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,555 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	I watched that video.... Maybe if I watched it 10,000 times I may understand what he is doing... __________________ clayp

03-07-2008, 01:24 PM	#9
howler93 Medic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Telluride, Colorado Posts: 162 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Stick with it Clay! I was confused with it at first too...but when you get it, it IS satisfying- just as Rockin Robbins suggested. What helped me was to try Sobe's method and keep cross referencing the attack map solution. GOOD LUCK! Howler

03-07-2008, 04:29 PM	#11
SuperCavitation Watch Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, Tejas!! Posts: 342 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This tutorial-movie is outstanding! Helps to have a calculator handy, doesn't it? Awesome! Did you get them, Clay? __________________ "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast. For I intend to go in harm's way." - Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778, in a letter to le Ray de Chaumont.

03-07-2008, 04:52 PM	#13
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 5,648 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 22	Get 'em Clay! We're cheering for you! And for those brave souls wanting to try sonar targeting, it depends on what mods you're using. If you're running the stock game it probably won't matter much. With Trigger Maru and Real Fleet Boat sonar has been severely hampered on the surface and you should be at periscope depth. In r/l sonar on the surface during a storm would be terrible anyway. Let us know what happens Clayp, no matter what. If all you get out of it is a good story, that's a fine payoff! __________________ You'll just have to remember what this is supposed to look like... Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Trans-Atlantic Radio, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4 Report 3.1.0.0beta

03-07-2008, 05:37 PM	#15
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,555 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	Well I'm going to quit for awhile,tried to surface the boat and the sea is so rough it wont stay up..Going to take a nap and try later.. __________________ clayp

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