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Old 10-21-2007, 05:50 PM   #1
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Arrow Revell VIIC 1-72 scale my way...

Im going to atempt to put together the model of submarine type VIIC by Revell.
The model spent last couple of years on the wardrobe gathering dust , while i was ploughing my way thru aray of unfinished projects from the past

The choice of aftermarked parts is good , and everyone can find the figures , and photoetched parts to suit their taste.

My choice was Eduard P/E , combined with some metal barrels , and crew for 88mm gun and sentry with some deck crev. Im still undecided on that one though.

The furnishings probably will be chosen along the way , as im still awaiting the Eduards P/E (bloody post) and im holding the talks about barells still.
Hopefully they will turn up this week and i can start doing some work.

The reason im writing this post is simple. For one it will provide me with much needed boost , and hopefuly you can help me on some technical problems along the way , as there are some issues with the kit , which need to be corrected.

To be continued...
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:16 PM   #2
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Have fun drilling out the limber holes with a pin drill and filing them all square with a needle file, I remember doing that with that kit, it took bloody ages:rotfl:

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Old 10-21-2007, 10:03 PM   #3
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Any photos?
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:07 PM   #4
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Are you going to go with a wooden deck? A nice looking one is available from Nautilus Models ( http://www.nautilusmodels.com/U-02/turm2.htm ). If I were building one, that's what I'd use.

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Old 10-22-2007, 12:36 PM   #5
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You can ask here :
http://modelshipwrights.kitmaker.net/
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:07 PM   #6
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Thanks for comments.

First of all i will have to decide which U-boat im gonna try to replicate.
Judging by the photobase available i was edging myself towards U-552 (as i think it is a beauty of its kind , and Erich Topp gets my vote anyday).

nikimcbee - of coursei will be posting the pics , what sens in topic like this without the pictures?

Here are some stills of the box:


The hull is big. The biggest model ever atempted by me , for visual comparison i placed the hull of the Type VIID Minenlager in 1-144 scale inside.
Even though the model of Type VIID is longer than standard VII the size diference is obvious:


First glance inside the box and everything looks in order , parts are neetly kept apart by some spacers on the mould / no more cracked wintergartens /.


The detail is of good quality , even out of the box this model will look the part:



Instruction is clear with choice of diferent U-boat possibilities covered:


That is to be decided before i open the floodholes , as they difer from one boat to another.

Bill Nichols - i was looking up the websites with wooden decks , and only thing i can say is : only wood can give true effect of the wood , but i`ll wait for my eduard P/E to turn up , before spending more money on something that i may not use. But is a food for thought.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:08 AM   #7
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I once had a type VII as a model and put it together, the hull on one side was open from stern to bow, so that you could have a glance at the interior. I was around 12 or 13, and in an effort to make it look more Klingon, I choosed an awfully wrong selection of dark colours. when I was done, it looked almost like the "Black Terror" when the sun had hidden behind the clouds..
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:00 PM   #8
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The decision has been made , and its gonna be U-552 early.
There isnt lot of diference between early and late 552 , just water deflectors around the 88mm gun , and some small cosmetic stuff regarding conning tower and exhausts.

First line of attack is sorting out the flood holes , as Revell just riddled the hull with as many holes as they possibly could.

I decided on using the photoetched parts from White ensight for lower parts of the hull , because the areas in the model are totaly off scale and the pattern of holes is from Mars.

Upper part of hull isnt much better . For casual modeler that is not the problem , because it still will look the part , but if you decided to make the model nearly identical to the real thing , you need to start drilling and filling.

First port side.
Front flooding holes look ok , all is needed is filling 2 holes.
The holes neer exhaust need lot more work as some are wrong shape, some are in the wrong place, and some are missing.



All the holes are going to be open in my model.
For that task im using Dremmel tool and sandpaper. To beginn with graze the inside of the hull with Dremmel untill you see the light thru the holes , then switch to sandpaper. Its easy to overdo with power tools , and the last thing i wont is rushing the job.

For the filling im using White Putty from Squadron.


You can see the plastic in this areas is quiet thick , but be careful with power tools...

Front flood holes are in the wrong place and are to big. Some
U-boats had these vents arranged in pairs. The paired
arrangement featured in
Blohm & Voss boats such as U 552, U 556 and U 564.


TBC...
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:19 PM   #9
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Still drilling and filling , theres so much to be done...




TBC...
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:25 AM   #10
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Starboard side is even trickier.

Picture below show the paterns of limber holes in Revel kit and U-552.



I trimmed thin bit of plastic /leftover from old revell kit/ and glued it in place of missing lumber holes.





Completed drilled holes.


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Old 10-30-2007, 03:22 AM   #11
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I finifhed drilling the main flood holes on starboard side of the hull.



Now i have to wait for P/E parts delivery.

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Old 10-30-2007, 04:59 AM   #12
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I'm going to keep an eye on this thread, since making one of these has been a silent wish from me as well. Thanks for covering this process skip.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:17 AM   #13
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Thanks Von Hinten. I`ll do my best.

I just realised its going to be about 1 -2 weeks untill i get the rest of the parts , so i started work on the surfacess. Because subs hull is not the straight surface i decided to give it more realistic look.
I decided to curve the tin ripple.
Carefuly scraping with the curved knife i managed to achieve this effect:



At that stage im not overly concerned about the rivets , as they are wrong shape on the model , and are sticking out to much for my liking. All the rivets are going to be replaced on my sub.

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Old 10-30-2007, 10:07 AM   #14
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Sweet
Very detailed posts

I wonder what uboat Revell based the model on :hmm:
Obviously not a B und V boat
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:44 PM   #15
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First test of the rivets.



It is only the test , and on the sub the rivets are much tighter.
I think it looks satisfactory.
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