[REL] S3D - Silent 3ditor - Page 28

AVGWarhawk · 03-05-2008, 05:40 PM

Hats off Privateer

I know the modders love this tool.

privateer · 03-05-2008, 05:51 PM

It's comeing along very nicely.

I like being able to edit the Particals stuff without the Hex editor.
I have most things scripted now.
But when I work on something new,
(New nodes I'm not use to working with)
I have to write new scripts and such again.
S3D will eliminate some of this.

Good work Skwasjer.

AVGWarhawk · 03-05-2008, 07:15 PM

@Privateer,

You might as well be speaking Japanese with hex editor, etc. Changing a texture is about as far as I have gone. All I know is this mod tool has been wonderful for you guys who dig modding the game.

privateer · 03-05-2008, 07:49 PM

Let's just say S3D could make hexing a thing of the past if carried far enuff.

You still need to view each model in real time 3D
and move things.

Perhaps We can "Nudge" him a bit?

tHy · 03-06-2008, 07:35 AM

I've got something quite similiar (if not the same?) as DivingDuck.

0.5 was absolutely no problem, with 0.6 I get
"Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation."
in exactly the same box as DivingDuck at the same occasion, whenever I try to open any file.

I have no idea if this error message in English helps you any further, but we may hope

.

Oh yeah, and of course a giant THANK YOU for this absolutely awesome tool, making modding by far more easy

Anvart · 03-06-2008, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Ref and I figured it all out.
I said,
"Hey, this is what I see'
Ref said,
"Quaternion"
I said,
"My head hurts!!"
:rotfl:
Hats off to Ref for that part!

:rotfl:

2 Skwasjer:
In 0.6 beta: not good object ID interpret. (first <--> last bytes) ...

skwasjer · 03-06-2008, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Let's just say S3D could make hexing a thing of the past if carried far enuff.

You still need to view each model in real time 3D
and move things.

Perhaps We can "Nudge" him a bit?

Hey! I'm not making another subsim game! Once a model viewer is out, people will want to have water, waves, sun, and be able to shoot the guns so they can see how it would look in game!

:rotfl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tHy

I've got something quite similiar (if not the same?) as DivingDuck.

0.5 was absolutely no problem, with 0.6 I get
"Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation."
in exactly the same box as DivingDuck at the same occasion, whenever I try to open any file.

I have no idea if this error message in English helps you any further, but we may hope

.

Oh yeah, and of course a giant THANK YOU for this absolutely awesome tool, making modding by far more easy

The problem for DivingDuck was that the previous versions had not uninstalled correctly, which is likely caused by installing all of the releases I put out in the same folder without uninstalling previous releases first. Please uninstall any S3D release you have installed through the Control Panel. Then, go to the <Program Files>\skwas folder and ensure there are no S3D folders left (iow. remove them if there are). Then you can reinstall the latest version again and see if it works. If not, let me know.

skwasjer · 03-06-2008, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvart

2 Skwasjer:
In 0.6 beta: not good object ID interpret.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. Could you explain the problem in more detail?

Anvart · 03-06-2008, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skwasjer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvart

2 Skwasjer:
In 0.6 beta: not good object ID interpret.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. Could you explain the problem in more detail?

Example:

swdw · 03-06-2008, 08:29 AM

Anvart, do you mean it gives the wrong ID number? What number did S3D give for that same object?

I'm guessing you mean S3D is offset on where it picks the first and last byte for reading the object ID so it gives an incorrect ID number?

skwasjer · 03-06-2008, 09:11 AM

Well, almost swdw. I've explained this before. It has to do with the endianness. The id is not wrong, it just is not displayed the same in a hex editor because I read it as a ulong/uint64 (in little endian), not as a 8-byte sequence. Otherwise you would have to say that a 4-byte sequence of 0x01000000 is also wrong if S3D would show it as 1 (int32).

S3D does all it's reading/writing using little endian (read least significant byte first). I won't mix that with big endian. Maybe an option to show id's in big endian is an idea but it's not as simple as it seems. I have (per request) thought of it before but dropped it for the time being as it would involve to many changes in the UI (not just that edit box). I will have to think about that again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness
http://developer.apple.com/documenta...eOrdering.html

Anvart · 03-06-2008, 09:33 AM

I know the reasons ... But it is inconvenient ...

skwasjer · 03-06-2008, 10:22 AM

I'll see what I can do...

Chardok · 03-07-2008, 01:07 PM

PLEASE forgive my ignorace. But as I read this - there will be functionality that will allow us to custom name our subs and crew without having to go into the player files or...something?

tater · 03-07-2008, 02:12 PM

^^ no.

The sub names, are dealt with in different types of files. Simple text files that are very easy to work with as it is.

tater

03-05-2008, 05:40 PM	#406
AVGWarhawk Chief of the Boat Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: FER USS Torsk Posts: 17,382 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Hats off Privateer I know the modders love this tool. __________________ They were fast, long-range commerce raiders with the ability to disappear.

03-05-2008, 05:51 PM	#407
privateer Air Ship Commander Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In Haidou Baby! Posts: 4,514 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 5	It's comeing along very nicely. I like being able to edit the Particals stuff without the Hex editor. I have most things scripted now. But when I work on something new, (New nodes I'm not use to working with) I have to write new scripts and such again. S3D will eliminate some of this. Good work Skwasjer. __________________

03-05-2008, 07:15 PM	#408
AVGWarhawk Chief of the Boat Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: FER USS Torsk Posts: 17,382 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	@Privateer, You might as well be speaking Japanese with hex editor, etc. Changing a texture is about as far as I have gone. All I know is this mod tool has been wonderful for you guys who dig modding the game. __________________ They were fast, long-range commerce raiders with the ability to disappear.

03-05-2008, 07:49 PM	#409
privateer Air Ship Commander Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In Haidou Baby! Posts: 4,514 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 5	Let's just say S3D could make hexing a thing of the past if carried far enuff. You still need to view each model in real time 3D and move things. Perhaps We can "Nudge" him a bit? __________________

03-06-2008, 08:29 AM	#415
swdw Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 873 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Anvart, do you mean it gives the wrong ID number? What number did S3D give for that same object? I'm guessing you mean S3D is offset on where it picks the first and last byte for reading the object ID so it gives an incorrect ID number? __________________ "There are only two types of ships- submarines...... and targets" Unknown "you wouldn't catch me on a ship that deliberately sinks itself"- comment to me from a surface sailor. System: AMD 64 x2 6000+ \| 4GB DDR2 800 \| ABit AN52 MB \| SATA 300 320GB HD x2 ATi HD3870 512MB PCI-e \| WinXP home SP3 32 bit

03-06-2008, 07:35 AM	#410
tHy Swabbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I've got something quite similiar (if not the same?) as DivingDuck. 0.5 was absolutely no problem, with 0.6 I get "Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation." in exactly the same box as DivingDuck at the same occasion, whenever I try to open any file. I have no idea if this error message in English helps you any further, but we may hope . Oh yeah, and of course a giant THANK YOU for this absolutely awesome tool, making modding by far more easy

03-06-2008, 09:11 AM	#416
skwasjer Olympian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 3	Well, almost swdw. I've explained this before. It has to do with the endianness. The id is not wrong, it just is not displayed the same in a hex editor because I read it as a ulong/uint64 (in little endian), not as a 8-byte sequence. Otherwise you would have to say that a 4-byte sequence of 0x01000000 is also wrong if S3D would show it as 1 (int32). S3D does all it's reading/writing using little endian (read least significant byte first). I won't mix that with big endian. Maybe an option to show id's in big endian is an idea but it's not as simple as it seems. I have (per request) thought of it before but dropped it for the time being as it would involve to many changes in the UI (not just that edit box). I will have to think about that again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness http://developer.apple.com/documenta...eOrdering.html __________________ Released: S3D - Silent 3ditor (v0.9.9) S3D homepage - SUBSIM thread SH5 mods: Speech Recognition for SH5 \| Digital UI Clock Tutorials: [TEC] Import/export 3D models to/from game using S3D [TEC] How to work with the model viewer in S3D - VIDEO

03-06-2008, 09:33 AM	#417
Anvart Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Russia, E-burg Posts: 1,713 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 1	I know the reasons ... But it is inconvenient ... __________________ The best regards. Anvart

03-06-2008, 10:22 AM	#418
skwasjer Olympian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 3	I'll see what I can do... __________________ Released: S3D - Silent 3ditor (v0.9.9) S3D homepage - SUBSIM thread SH5 mods: Speech Recognition for SH5 \| Digital UI Clock Tutorials: [TEC] Import/export 3D models to/from game using S3D [TEC] How to work with the model viewer in S3D - VIDEO

03-07-2008, 01:07 PM	#419
Chardok Watch Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	PLEASE forgive my ignorace. But as I read this - there will be functionality that will allow us to custom name our subs and crew without having to go into the player files or...something? __________________ I\'ve done far worse than kill you, Admiral. I\'ve hurt you. -Khan Noonien Singh

03-07-2008, 02:12 PM	#420
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 6,904 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 2	^^ no. The sub names, are dealt with in different types of files. Simple text files that are very easy to work with as it is. tater

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