Petition to UBI for the SDK

[flag4]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

True. Also the game has been modded so far the way it is that if they did release an SDK it would ruin all the work that's already been done. If they had released it on day one it would have made a difference. Now it would likely make no difference at all.

...would this not allow new development to begin away from what has been done but able to be added to?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by flag4

...would this not allow new development to begin away from what has been done but able to be added to?

In theory, yes. That said, you will need a whole new generation of modders to take up the banner. None of the people who made SH3 what it is today are going to come back and start over again. Many of them are long-gone from subsims. Some of them are working on other projects. U-Boat HAHD is looking to be the next - and possibly last - SH3 supermod, and I doubt that they would want to start over from scratch when their work is already so advanced, and looking so good. Is h.sie really bypassing the restrictions? Whatever his methods, he is producing truly great work. Could he really do more if they handed him the SDK? Only he knows the answer to that question.

After seven years, if they were going to release it, it would probably have happened by now. If they did release it, would it make any difference at this point? Somehow I doubt it.

On the other hand, I've been wrong before.

[flag4]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

In theory, yes. That said, you will need a whole new generation of modders to take up the banner. None of the people who made SH3 what it is today are going to come back and start over again. Many of them are long-gone from subsims. Some of them are working on other projects. U-Boat HAHD is looking to be the next - and possibly last - SH3 supermod, and I doubt that they would want to start over from scratch when their work is already so advanced, and looking so good. Is h.sie really bypassing the restrictions? Whatever his methods, he is producing truly great work. Could he really do more if they handed him the SDK? Only he knows the answer to that question.

After seven years, if they were going to release it, it would probably have happened by now. If they did release it, would it make any difference at this point? Somehow I doubt it.

On the other hand, I've been wrong before.

...too far for an up-hill slog

[privateer]

I've stated it before and I'll state it again.
We have enuff tools that replicate the SDK now.
An SDK would only allow adding or modding Units already allowed.
ONLY the source code would allow changeing the basic behaviour of the Game.

Now, IF UBI released that? They'd stand a chance to lose control of a market pretty much owned by them to this date.

I'd prefer to see UBI contact qualified and proven Modders/Coders to set up some kind of Group to do a new SH version.
Sort of an out-source type of deal.

Those involved get access to the source code and UBI retains the rights.
A percentage deal could be a way to pay those involved.
Or other options could be offered that may work for the parties involved.

Whatever happens or does not happen?
The ball is in UBI's court.

[Vince82]

yes

[flag4]

Originally Posted by privateer

I've stated it before and I'll state it again.
We have enuff tools that replicate the SDK now.
An SDK would only allow adding or modding Units already allowed.
ONLY the source code would allow changeing the basic behaviour of the Game.

Now, IF UBI released that? They'd stand a chance to lose control of a market pretty much owned by them to this date.

I'd prefer to see UBI contact qualified and proven Modders/Coders to set up some kind of Group to do a new SH version.
Sort of an out-source type of deal.

Those involved get access to the source code and UBI retains the rights.
A percentage deal could be a way to pay those involved.
Or other options could be offered that may work for the parties involved.

Whatever happens or does not happen?
The ball is in UBI's court.

...can you imagine that...wohh.
but as you say, they're holding the balls.

[Dbledip]

Definately YES

[Raticon]

Originally Posted by privateer

...I'd prefer to see UBI contact qualified and proven Modders/Coders to set up some kind of Group to do a new SH version.
Sort of an out-source type of deal.

Those involved get access to the source code and UBI retains the rights.
A percentage deal could be a way to pay those involved.
Or other options could be offered that may work for the parties involved.

Whatever happens or does not happen?
The ball is in UBI's court.

This is almost EXACTLY how Paradox did when they released the Europa-engine that make up Hearts of iron 2 + expansions to different groups that made their own takes on the HoI-series, namely the games "Arsenal of Democracy" and "Darkest Hour", and HoI 2 is to this date almost 10 years old, but "AoD" and "DH" were both released pretty recently.

In all these instances i say "YES" as it will make it possible for competent modders to make a better game while other modders work at their thing with the original game... as the gamer you can pick what you desire the most and i an perfectly sure that the modders know what they are doing and doing it great .

[GunterSepp]

YES

[ronnie67]

yes

[Antar]

1st post of this topic was released at 2007.

Any news from UBI?

[Sailor Steve]

No. Why should they care? They have their money. Nobody who doesn't already own SH3 is going to buy it now just because they've made it easier to mod.

[Oberleutnant nederlander]

YES

[Victor Schutze]

Originally Posted by flag4

they're holding the balls.

Scary stuff.

[u558]

ooohhh.. YES YES**