USS Grunion (SS-216)

[malkuth74]

Decided to look up the History of my current Sub USS Grunion. And I was a little depressed to say the least. She was lost on her first patrol, another one of those Mistery disapearances.

Its a Gato Class And Im now on my 5th patrol.

So far I have sunk about 150,000 Tons of shipping.

Story of the Grunion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Grunion_(SS-216)

[Cakewalk]

Tragic, its sad to see how a crew gave their lives to a fate that we don't even know.

But her name lives on... and thanks to SH4, in more ways than a history book could ever convey.

[DeePsix501]

Truly a sad loss. My ship too was lost in early 1943. Playing this game makes me appreciate the sacrafice these brave men made.

[WFGood]

There was just an article in my hometown paper about the Grunion last week or so. The skipper's kids are trying to locate her. There will be an expedition this summer to try and prove it is the Grunion. Here is a website about the search.

http://www.ussgrunion.com/

[Holland]

Its amazing how attached you can get to your own boat in SH4, if it lasted to the end of the war you think about keeping it that way when you play. If it was lost during the war you are pre-occupied with somehow doing the real boat the dignity of surviving through this time. Funny world, but I think it helps one appreciate the work and efforts, even if its only a fraction.

[Cakewalk]

Originally Posted by Holland

Its amazing how attached you can get to your own boat in SH4, if it lasted to the end of the war you think about keeping it that way when you play. If it was lost during the war you are pre-occupied with somehow doing the real boat the dignity of surviving through this time. Funny world, but I think it helps one appreciate the work and efforts, even if its only a fraction.

Well said.

[DeePsix501]

Originally Posted by Holland

Its amazing how attached you can get to your own boat in SH4, if it lasted to the end of the war you think about keeping it that way when you play. If it was lost during the war you are pre-occupied with somehow doing the real boat the dignity of surviving through this time. Funny world, but I think it helps one appreciate the work and efforts, even if its only a fraction.

Amen. I've read my boats entire patrol reports, and its almost eerily similar to the real life USS Triton. On my second patrol we sank two sandpans plodding along the coast, and so did the real one. We've patroled sectors that the real Triton patroled. I wonder if this trend will continue. The real triton had to dodge shotty torpedoes, enemy subs, and even sunk an enemy sub, almost hollywood style.

It all makes me really appreciate all these men.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by malkuth74

Decided to look up the History of my current Sub USS Grunion. And I was a little depressed to say the least. She was lost on her first patrol, another one of those Mistery disapearances.

Its a Gato Class And Im now on my 5th patrol.

So far I have sunk about 150,000 Tons of shipping.

Story of the Grunion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Grunion_(SS-216)

I have read that they feel the Grunion was sunk by a Japanese submarine. The last message received coinsides with a date one Japanese sub claims to have sunk a American sub. I read this in "Submarine". The author was on Trigger who had a friend on Grunion so it was of particular interest to him on what became of Grunion.

[fair_weather]

Its amazing how attached you can get to your own boat in SH4, if it lasted to the end of the war you think about keeping it that way when you play.

Ya, I've got SS-228, and I'm trying to keep her in one piece so she can become that museum piece in real life

...However there's probably not enough boats for everyone...as I saw another guy here who has USS Drum aswell...but oh well

[OddjobXL]

I tried to stay away until the bugs were fixed myself, that and I bought SHIII a bare week before SHIV came out so it was fun and new to me as well. But...

...here I am on my first career mode mission in SHIV. Couldn't stay away. And I did the same thing you guys did. Had to look up the Sailfish and see what its story was. Turns out to be rather colorful even before the war:

http://www.onr.navy.mil/focus/blowba...us/default.htm

Sims may not be historically pure or as colorful as real life written histories but they do teach us about how the men may have thought and acted in some limited but functional way just reading about the events doesn't wholly capture either. The fact they do inspire us to read more about what actually happened does help keep the memories of these events and people very much alive.

[Holland]

Originally Posted by OddjobXL

The fact they do inspire us to read more about what actually happened does help keep the memories of these events and people very much alive.

In addition to the entertainment value, I think this is another important aspect of games, especially SH4. Bugs or not, the feeling that I am 'doing' something to help out the effort makes it enjoyable.

Originally Posted by fair_weather

...However there's probably not enough boats for everyone...as I saw another guy here who has USS Drum aswell...but oh well

Unfortunately not. I don't know the numbers of sales this title will expect over the next couple years, but every sub will probably have replicated itself many many times over. We'll each own a piece of a subs history.

So far I havent come across anyone commanding Aspro on the forums....but it'll happen

[mrbassbone]

USS GRUNION has been located off of the Aleutian Islands in Alaska. She was located around the same time that Russian divers filmed the wreckage of USS WAHOO SS-238 in La Perouse Straits where she was sunk on 11 October 1943. What sank her was an aerial bomb that hit her on the cigarette deck of her superstructure and blew out portions of her starboard hull near the crews mess aft of the control room. It is believed that members of the crew survived the initial explosion and tried to lighten the ship in a vain attempt to surface and escape. The crew was unable to do so and they and the ship remain in approx 210 feet of water.

Shell

[DeePsix501]

God...

Makes you wonder what it is like. Depth Charges or Bombs breaking your hull. Water rushing in. Your friends and ship mates lay around injured. Your boat plummiting twords oblivion. You know what is going to happen in a few minutes, and you wonder what dying would be like. What runs through your mind in those last moments as water fills up your compartment? What would have been the last thing they wanted to do?

Makes me really appreciate their sacrafice...

[hyperion2206]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I have read that they feel the Grunion was sunk by a Japanese submarine. The last message received coinsides with a date one Japanese sub claims to have sunk a American sub. I read this in "Submarine". The author was on Trigger who had a friend on Grunion so it was of particular interest to him on what became of Grunion.

That was assumed for some time but historians found out that the Japanese sub sank a russian sub some months AFTER the Grunion was sunk.

The Japanese sub was the I 25 and it sank the Russian sub L 16 on 10/13/1942. The Grunion was lost on 07/30/1942.

Found in the book "Geschichte des U-Boot-Krieges 1939-1945" by Leonce Peillard.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by hyperion2206

That was assumed for some time but historians found out that the Japanese sub sank a russian sub some months AFTER the Grunion was sunk.

The Japanese sub was the I 25 and it sank the Russian sub L 16 on 10/13/1942. The Grunion was lost on 07/30/1942.

Found in the book "Geschichte des U-Boot-Krieges 1939-1945" by Leonce Peillard.

:hmm: Sometimes history has a way of changing itself.