S-42 Class submarines

Mikkow · 03-21-2007, 03:04 PM

So, what do we know about it? I don't know much. Found some page. Someone please compare it to the other subs for me. Looks like it's a smaller costal boat.

Displacement (Surface) 903 t.
Displacement (Submerged) 1126 t.
Length 225' 3"
Beam 20' 8"
Draft 13' 1"
Powerplant diesel electric engines, New London Ship and Engine Co., diesel engines,
Horsepower 1200
Screws 2
Speed Surfaced: 14,5
Submerged: 11
Endurance
Test Depth 200 feet
Collapse Depth
Armor n/a
Armament four 21" torpedo tubes, 12 torpedoes
one 4"/50 deck gun
Aircraft none
Complement 4 officers, 34 enlisted

FAdmiral · 03-21-2007, 03:09 PM

It's the older WWI "Sugar Class" boats carrying 12 "Mk. 10" torpedos.
They (dev team) were not gonna include this class in SH4 but
loud howling from the gamers will put it in the first 1.1 patch...

JIM

Gammel · 03-21-2007, 03:14 PM

pretty fast when running submerged...
11 knots - is this real?

guess it will be my first command

digitizedsoul · 03-21-2007, 03:14 PM

FA, I live in atlanta as well.... just an FYI

Sailor Steve · 03-21-2007, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gammel

pretty fast when running submerged...
11 knots - is this real?

guess it will be my first command

Yes, it's real. At least all the books say so.

Gammel · 03-21-2007, 04:39 PM

thx @ Sailor Steve!

anyone could give a short explaination why did the US Subs had better underwater speeds,
compared to the u-boats of the germans?
Better batteries/engines?
Better hull design?

Except for the Type XXI and XXIII other german boats did hardly reach 8 knots
or less as far as i know...

The more i read about american submarines, the more i came to the conclusion they where far superior to the german designs
(except the electro boats), even if they could not reach same deep levels perhaps

Sailor Steve · 03-21-2007, 05:08 PM

They didn't. The S-class was an exception, and I'm not sure why they were faster. US fleet boats were no faster underwater than the Germans.

Gammel · 03-21-2007, 05:16 PM

I´ll do a testdrive soon...

my source (some SH4 page o.s. lol) says
even the big ones
ähm like Gato and ähm the other boats (notice to myself: read more about american subs)

could have reached 9 knots
wasn´t that better than the german vessles? ok perhaps 1 knot
but at least something...

elanaiba · 03-21-2007, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAdmiral

It's the older WWI "Sugar Class" boats carrying 12 "Mk. 10" torpedos.
They (dev team) were not gonna include this class in SH4 but
loud howling from the gamers will put it in the first 1.1 patch...

JIM

Actually, the stock game comes with the S-18 variation of the Sugar boats. The patch adds the S-42 variation.

LukeFF · 03-21-2007, 06:08 PM

So, all this means we'll have the Group I and Group III S-boats, correct?

simsurfer · 03-21-2007, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gammel

pretty fast when running submerged...
11 knots - is this real?

guess it will be my first command

Yes, it's real. At least all the books say so.

Until your batteries die and @ that speed were talking what? 20 min.

Mikkow · 03-22-2007, 10:33 AM

Tried it in game. It doesn't seem to have an interior conning tower, just command room + bridge.

P_Funk · 03-22-2007, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

They didn't. The S-class was an exception, and I'm not sure why they were faster. US fleet boats were no faster underwater than the Germans.

Could it be because maybe the S-Class was slighty more aerodynamic? That was a big part in making the XXI faster.

Or could it just be a favourable weight versus horsepower ratio?

Mikkow · 03-22-2007, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P_Funk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

They didn't. The S-class was an exception, and I'm not sure why they were faster. US fleet boats were no faster underwater than the Germans.

Could it be because maybe the S-Class was slighty more aerodynamic??

You mean 'hydrodynamic'

And that's probably why.

Ark · 03-22-2007, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikkow

Quote:

Originally Posted by P_Funk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

They didn't. The S-class was an exception, and I'm not sure why they were faster. US fleet boats were no faster underwater than the Germans.

Could it be because maybe the S-Class was slighty more aerodynamic??

You mean 'hydrodynamic'

And that's probably why.

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03-21-2007, 03:04 PM	#1
Mikkow Gunner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 93 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	S-42 Class submarines So, what do we know about it? I don't know much. Found some page. Someone please compare it to the other subs for me. Looks like it's a smaller costal boat. Displacement (Surface) 903 t. Displacement (Submerged) 1126 t. Length 225' 3" Beam 20' 8" Draft 13' 1" Powerplant diesel electric engines, New London Ship and Engine Co., diesel engines, Horsepower 1200 Screws 2 Speed Surfaced: 14,5 Submerged: 11 Endurance Test Depth 200 feet Collapse Depth Armor n/a Armament four 21" torpedo tubes, 12 torpedoes one 4"/50 deck gun Aircraft none Complement 4 officers, 34 enlisted __________________ Freelancing Illustrator http://mikkow.deviantart.com

03-21-2007, 03:09 PM	#2
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 3,846 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	It's the older WWI "Sugar Class" boats carrying 12 "Mk. 10" torpedos. They (dev team) were not gonna include this class in SH4 but loud howling from the gamers will put it in the first 1.1 patch... JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

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Sailor Steve Just A Kid At Heart Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 600 miles from the nearest ocean. Posts: 44,791 Downloads: 406 Uploads: 227	They didn't. The S-class was an exception, and I'm not sure why they were faster. US fleet boats were no faster underwater than the Germans. __________________ "Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right." – Laurens van der Post

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Mikkow Gunner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 93 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Tried it in game. It doesn't seem to have an interior conning tower, just command room + bridge. __________________ Freelancing Illustrator http://mikkow.deviantart.com

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03-21-2007, 03:14 PM	#3
Gammel Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 600 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	pretty fast when running submerged... 11 knots - is this real? guess it will be my first command

03-21-2007, 03:14 PM	#4
digitizedsoul Machinist's Mate Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 125 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 1	FA, I live in atlanta as well.... just an FYI

03-21-2007, 04:39 PM	#6
Gammel Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 600 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	thx @ Sailor Steve! anyone could give a short explaination why did the US Subs had better underwater speeds, compared to the u-boats of the germans? Better batteries/engines? Better hull design? Except for the Type XXI and XXIII other german boats did hardly reach 8 knots or less as far as i know... The more i read about american submarines, the more i came to the conclusion they where far superior to the german designs (except the electro boats), even if they could not reach same deep levels perhaps

03-21-2007, 05:16 PM	#8
Gammel Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 600 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	I´ll do a testdrive soon... my source (some SH4 page o.s. lol) says even the big ones ähm like Gato and ähm the other boats (notice to myself: read more about american subs) could have reached 9 knots wasn´t that better than the german vessles? ok perhaps 1 knot but at least something...

03-21-2007, 06:08 PM	#10
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California, USA Posts: 3,842 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	So, all this means we'll have the Group I and Group III S-boats, correct?