Converting SH3 mods to SH4

CCIP · 03-20-2007, 09:39 AM

It would appear that the file structure of SHIV is very close to SHIII - consequently, a lot of the modding work can be converted from SHIII.

I've already found a number of useful config tweaks; I'll try to investigate soon how much SHIII Mini Tweaker is compatible with SHIV - if it is, a number of other tweaks can be applied there. I suspect this may be needed for sensors for example.

Two more good news items:
Most sounds from SHIII mods are compatible, so as long as they don't feature german - you can simply pick and drop them from one sound folder (e.g. GWX) to your SHIV sound folder.

Many SHIII commands that are missing in SH4 (like weather reports, maximum range/range to course end/time to course end, and sonarman report controls) can be easily re-enabled by simply assigning key shortcuts to them.

sandbag69 · 03-20-2007, 09:59 AM

Can SH4 ships be added to Sh3 or vice versa?

danlisa · 03-20-2007, 10:20 AM

Would it possible for people who already own the game to find out which of Timetraveller's tools still work with SH4?

Specifically the DAT extractor, Minitweaker (CCIP already mentioned) and/or Pack3D.

Could we also get an idea of how the textures are handled. Are they in a textures folder or have they been packed into DAT files?

CCIP · 03-20-2007, 10:27 AM

I can't test the tools for another 36 hours since I'm at work (

), but I can tell you that all the textures now look to be in .dds format, including those in the submarine folders. Seems they are now mostly separate from the .dat.

danlisa · 03-20-2007, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

I can't test the tools for another 36 hours since I'm at work (

), but I can tell you that all the textures now look to be in .dds format, including those in the submarine folders. Seems they are now mostly separate from the .dat.

Sigh, why is it never easy.

Here is some info/tools for .dds textures. - http://developer.nvidia.com/object/p...s_plugins.html

Dowly · 03-20-2007, 10:58 AM

Yeh, alot of the textures are in the texture folder instead of the .DAT files. I wonder, how much would it cut down the loading times if they were in the DATs? As atm, the loading time for me are alot shorter than those in SHIII. :hmm:

privateer · 03-23-2007, 02:56 AM

Pack3d seems to work fine.
Model structure is the same but I noticed the Armed Trawler will not split in half
as it has no front and rear sections.
New rules for mini tweaker can be written as well as for Analyzer.
And of course, the Good old Hex Editor!!!

03-20-2007, 09:39 AM	#1
CCIP Torpedo Momber Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 9,579 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 2	Converting SH3 mods to SH4 It would appear that the file structure of SHIV is very close to SHIII - consequently, a lot of the modding work can be converted from SHIII. I've already found a number of useful config tweaks; I'll try to investigate soon how much SHIII Mini Tweaker is compatible with SHIV - if it is, a number of other tweaks can be applied there. I suspect this may be needed for sensors for example. Two more good news items: Most sounds from SHIII mods are compatible, so as long as they don't feature german - you can simply pick and drop them from one sound folder (e.g. GWX) to your SHIV sound folder. Many SHIII commands that are missing in SH4 (like weather reports, maximum range/range to course end/time to course end, and sonarman report controls) can be easily re-enabled by simply assigning key shortcuts to them. __________________ I don’t like marches. I'll tell you why: war. It's very similar to disco. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-20-2007, 10:20 AM	#3
danlisa Sea Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,485 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 1	Would it possible for people who already own the game to find out which of Timetraveller's tools still work with SH4? Specifically the DAT extractor, Minitweaker (CCIP already mentioned) and/or Pack3D. Could we also get an idea of how the textures are handled. Are they in a textures folder or have they been packed into DAT files? __________________ Subsim Archive Search

03-20-2007, 10:27 AM	#4
CCIP Torpedo Momber Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 9,579 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 2	I can't test the tools for another 36 hours since I'm at work ( ), but I can tell you that all the textures now look to be in .dds format, including those in the submarine folders. Seems they are now mostly separate from the .dat. __________________ I don’t like marches. I'll tell you why: war. It's very similar to disco. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-20-2007, 10:58 AM	#6
Dowly Boobmeister Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: On a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. PERKELE! Posts: 21,110 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Yeh, alot of the textures are in the texture folder instead of the .DAT files. I wonder, how much would it cut down the loading times if they were in the DATs? As atm, the loading time for me are alot shorter than those in SHIII. :hmm: __________________

03-23-2007, 02:56 AM	#7
privateer Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,354 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 12	Pack3d seems to work fine. Model structure is the same but I noticed the Armed Trawler will not split in half as it has no front and rear sections. New rules for mini tweaker can be written as well as for Analyzer. And of course, the Good old Hex Editor!!! __________________ You're hanging out with us now, pal. Dignity has nothing to do with it. Democracy - 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch. Liberty - a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

03-20-2007, 09:59 AM	#2
sandbag69 Sparky Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 156 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Can SH4 ships be added to Sh3 or vice versa?

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