Large format Maneuvering Board

muser · 02-28-2007, 09:25 PM

I've been teaching my son (he's in the sixth grade) a little geometry and trig by using the target plotting aspects of SH3 as a fun tool. We use simple one or two vessel missions that I've set up for this purpose. After doing this for a while on the computer, I realized it might be more helpful to have an actual physical plotting board on which to track our hapless victims.

By searching the web, I found one put out by the Defense Mapping Agency (their form 5090) but unfortunately the image quality was not very good and the distance scales were in yards and nautical miles -- not meters and kilometers like SH3 uses. Unable to find anything set up for meters and kilometers, I modified the distance scale, and reformatted the DMA board to print out at 20" x 24" which fits on a 20" x 30" piece of foam board quite well. Covered with a piece of thin plexiglass, it is reusable and very durable. We use grease pencils to plot the course of our targets.

Here are a few before and after images.

Original DMA form 5090 -- using yards and nautical miles:

My 20" x 24" Silent Hunter III version with distance scales in meters and kilometers:
(The actual image quality is much better than seen here.)

Closeup of original distance scale:

Closeup of meters and kilometers distance scale:

Also, here is a 20" x 24" Silent Hunter IV version with distance scales in yards and nautical miles:
(The actual image quality is much better than seen here.)

We printed ours out on nine pieces of paper which we then had to cut and paste together -- kind of tedious. But I'm pretty sure you could send the file to an online printer like ezprints and they can print you a 20x24 image for about $20.

The publication date of the original edition of the DMA form 5090 was 1920, so I guess it counts as a period piece, but of course it's not printed in German so I can't say it adds much to the U-boat atmosphere of the game.

Anyway, I thought some of you might find these useful.

Here is the link to my meters and kilometers Silent Hunter III version:
http://files.filefront.com/plotboard.../fileinfo.html

This link will take you to the yards and nautical miles Silent Hunter IV version:
http://files.filefront.com/plotboard.../fileinfo.html

Here is a link to chapter six of the pub 1310 plotting manual (explains how to use the maneuvering board):
http://files.filefront.com/plotting_.../fileinfo.html

Here is a link to the complete "Radar Navigation and Maneuvering Board Manual" Pub.1310:
http://files.filefront.com/pub1310_c.../fileinfo.html

If there is a problem with any of the above links, try the following link from which you should be able to access all the above files:
http://hosted.filefront.com/alongnightsmuse

By the way, thanks for a great forum!
I've learned a lot from you guys and gals.

bigboywooly · 02-28-2007, 11:16 PM

Cool idea
Will have to give this a go

Venatore · 02-28-2007, 11:21 PM

This is excellent, I think Silent Hunter III should be in all schools to teach those young people that type of stuff..........but I don't think it would be accepted by the teacher committee.

This is a good find thanks !

JSalinger · 03-01-2007, 03:22 AM

*shrugs* Oh I dunno...prior to me going and not playing SH3 for a couple months, I had it installed on a computer in German teacher's classroom, a computer in my math teacher's classroom, and on a computer in my physics teacher's classroom to play during downtime...it was pretty funny...between the three of them, they only managed to last a grand total of four patrols, even on 0% realism. *laughs*

Mush Martin · 03-01-2007, 03:30 AM

that is splendid very nice

joea · 03-01-2007, 04:03 AM

The yards and miles version will be good for SHIV too!!

Phoenix3000 · 03-01-2007, 09:38 AM

Hi Muser,

Great idea! - I saw a Manoeuvring Board some time back on the web, but the image resolution was awful - this one is great!

I've downloaded your plotting guide also, but it's chapter 6. I'm quite keen to learn this fully, so where can I download or obtain the full manual?

Thanks!

Px3000

Sailor Steve · 03-01-2007, 11:04 AM

Nifty!

And welcome aboard!

reallydedpoet · 03-01-2007, 11:20 AM

Nice, welcome aboard

Jimbuna · 03-01-2007, 11:28 AM

Nice idea

Welcome aboard kaleun muser

vanjast · 03-01-2007, 02:05 PM

Can't find it ??? ....for #%#^#$filefront adverts #$^$&# <img>

Any direct links ..please <img>

muser · 03-01-2007, 03:49 PM

Hi All,

Thanks for the kind welcome.

joea;
I like your idea about the yards and miles version for SHIV. I will start on a cropped and cleaned up 20" x 24" version for SHIV and add a link to it in my original post, in a day or two. I suppose it would be ok to add that here in the SHIII mods forum.

Phoenix3000;
I've edited my original post to include a filefront link to the entire "Radar Navigation and Maneuvering Board Manual" Pub. 1310. Most of Pub. 1310 pertains to plotting radar tracks. Chapter six is really the relevant part pertaining to use of the plotting board.

You can also download all or any part of Pub. 1310 from the following link:
http://www.nga.mil/portal/site/marit...c24fd73927a759

muser · 03-02-2007, 03:06 PM

joea,

Here is the link to a cleaned up version for yards and nautical miles -- more suitable for use with SHIV:
http://files.filefront.com/plotboard.../fileinfo.html

I've updated my original post to include it as well.

vanjast · 03-02-2007, 03:52 PM

Hmmmm, do I have to login at FileFront to get a link to download the jpg file.
OR
Is filefront...just a front for advertisement garbage ??

muser · 03-02-2007, 04:33 PM

vanjast,

No need to log in.

You may have your browser set to "Block all Cookies," in which case filefront will give an "Invalid session" error and not allow the download.

If you are using Internet Explorer go to:
Tools --> Internet Options --> Privacy --> and set the slider to "High" or "Medium High"

Then give it another try.

Here again are the links (I checked and made sure they work):

Here is the link to my kilometers and meters version for SHIII:
http://files.filefront.com/plotboard.../fileinfo.html

This link will take you to the yards and nautical miles version for SHIV:
http://files.filefront.com/plotboard.../fileinfo.html

Here is a link to chapter six of the pub 1310 plotting manual:
http://files.filefront.com/plotting_.../fileinfo.html

Here is a link to the complete "Radar Navigation and Maneuvering Board Manual" Pub.1310:
http://files.filefront.com/pub1310_c.../fileinfo.html

Hope this helps.

02-28-2007, 09:25 PM	#1
muser Watch Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 27 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Large format Maneuvering Board I've been teaching my son (he's in the sixth grade) a little geometry and trig by using the target plotting aspects of SH3 as a fun tool. We use simple one or two vessel missions that I've set up for this purpose. After doing this for a while on the computer, I realized it might be more helpful to have an actual physical plotting board on which to track our hapless victims. By searching the web, I found one put out by the Defense Mapping Agency (their form 5090) but unfortunately the image quality was not very good and the distance scales were in yards and nautical miles -- not meters and kilometers like SH3 uses. Unable to find anything set up for meters and kilometers, I modified the distance scale, and reformatted the DMA board to print out at 20" x 24" which fits on a 20" x 30" piece of foam board quite well. Covered with a piece of thin plexiglass, it is reusable and very durable. We use grease pencils to plot the course of our targets. Here are a few before and after images. Original DMA form 5090 -- using yards and nautical miles: My 20" x 24" Silent Hunter III version with distance scales in meters and kilometers: (The actual image quality is much better than seen here.) Closeup of original distance scale: Closeup of meters and kilometers distance scale: Also, here is a 20" x 24" Silent Hunter IV version with distance scales in yards and nautical miles: (The actual image quality is much better than seen here.) We printed ours out on nine pieces of paper which we then had to cut and paste together -- kind of tedious. But I'm pretty sure you could send the file to an online printer like ezprints and they can print you a 20x24 image for about $20. The publication date of the original edition of the DMA form 5090 was 1920, so I guess it counts as a period piece, but of course it's not printed in German so I can't say it adds much to the U-boat atmosphere of the game. Anyway, I thought some of you might find these useful. Here is the link to my meters and kilometers Silent Hunter III version: http://files.filefront.com/plotboard.../fileinfo.html This link will take you to the yards and nautical miles Silent Hunter IV version: http://files.filefront.com/plotboard.../fileinfo.html Here is a link to chapter six of the pub 1310 plotting manual (explains how to use the maneuvering board): http://files.filefront.com/plotting_.../fileinfo.html Here is a link to the complete "Radar Navigation and Maneuvering Board Manual" Pub.1310: http://files.filefront.com/pub1310_c.../fileinfo.html If there is a problem with any of the above links, try the following link from which you should be able to access all the above files: http://hosted.filefront.com/alongnightsmuse By the way, thanks for a great forum! I've learned a lot from you guys and gals. Last edited by muser; 03-06-2007 at 01:51 PM.

02-28-2007, 11:16 PM	#2
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10,096 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Cool idea Will have to give this a go __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41 Gamefront http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/bigboywooly

02-28-2007, 11:21 PM	#3
Venatore Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia:- Sydney Posts: 2,079 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	This is excellent, I think Silent Hunter III should be in all schools to teach those young people that type of stuff..........but I don't think it would be accepted by the teacher committee. This is a good find thanks ! __________________ 40,000 men of the Kriegsmarine served on German U-Boats during WWII, 30,000 perished. German U-Boats fought from the first day of hostilities, till the very last day of the war. To date; the German U-Boats sustained the highest casualty rate of any unit in any war. They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old, age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn, at the going down of the sun & in the morning, we will remember them, lest we forget

03-01-2007, 03:22 AM	#4
JSalinger Sparky Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spokane, WA, USA Posts: 156 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	shrugs Oh I dunno...prior to me going and not playing SH3 for a couple months, I had it installed on a computer in German teacher's classroom, a computer in my math teacher's classroom, and on a computer in my physics teacher's classroom to play during downtime...it was pretty funny...between the three of them, they only managed to last a grand total of four patrols, even on 0% realism. laughs __________________ J. Salinger King of the House

03-01-2007, 03:30 AM	#5
Mush Martin Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,374 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	that is splendid very nice __________________ Tutorial

03-01-2007, 04:03 AM	#6
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 4,397 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	The yards and miles version will be good for SHIV too!!

03-01-2007, 09:38 AM	#7
Phoenix3000 Weps Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, England (Usually in a pub...) Posts: 359 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Hi Muser, Great idea! - I saw a Manoeuvring Board some time back on the web, but the image resolution was awful - this one is great! I've downloaded your plotting guide also, but it's chapter 6. I'm quite keen to learn this fully, so where can I download or obtain the full manual? Thanks! Px3000

03-01-2007, 11:04 AM	#8
Sailor Steve Just A Kid At Heart Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 600 miles from the nearest ocean. Posts: 45,385 Downloads: 411 Uploads: 227	Nifty! And welcome aboard! __________________ "Realism is in how you play, not in the game settings." -Rockin Robbins, Subsim member

03-01-2007, 11:20 AM	#9
reallydedpoet Mariner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 8,624 Downloads: 654 Uploads: 2	Nice, welcome aboard __________________ Advanced Search Option - Google Search for SUBSIM Stan Rogers - Gordon Lightfoot - Stompin' Tom

03-01-2007, 11:28 AM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 83,170 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 8	Nice idea Welcome aboard kaleun muser __________________ Stop following me...I'm lost!! GWX3.0 Download Page http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php?r=nkjkl#j35rkcr24g8d2 GWX Website/Home Page Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim) http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/gwx_donation1207.php

03-01-2007, 02:05 PM	#11
vanjast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MelkbosStrand, Zuide Afrika Posts: 1,007 Downloads: 352 Uploads: 4	Can't find it ??? ....for #%#^#$filefront adverts #$^$&# <img> Any direct links ..please <img>

03-01-2007, 03:49 PM	#12
muser Watch Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 27 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Hi All, Thanks for the kind welcome. joea; I like your idea about the yards and miles version for SHIV. I will start on a cropped and cleaned up 20" x 24" version for SHIV and add a link to it in my original post, in a day or two. I suppose it would be ok to add that here in the SHIII mods forum. Phoenix3000; I've edited my original post to include a filefront link to the entire "Radar Navigation and Maneuvering Board Manual" Pub. 1310. Most of Pub. 1310 pertains to plotting radar tracks. Chapter six is really the relevant part pertaining to use of the plotting board. You can also download all or any part of Pub. 1310 from the following link: http://www.nga.mil/portal/site/marit...c24fd73927a759

03-02-2007, 03:06 PM	#13
muser Watch Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 27 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	joea, Here is the link to a cleaned up version for yards and nautical miles -- more suitable for use with SHIV: http://files.filefront.com/plotboard.../fileinfo.html I've updated my original post to include it as well. Last edited by muser; 03-02-2007 at 09:16 PM.

03-02-2007, 03:52 PM	#14
vanjast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MelkbosStrand, Zuide Afrika Posts: 1,007 Downloads: 352 Uploads: 4	Hmmmm, do I have to login at FileFront to get a link to download the jpg file. OR Is filefront...just a front for advertisement garbage ??

03-02-2007, 04:33 PM	#15
muser Watch Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 27 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	vanjast, No need to log in. You may have your browser set to "Block all Cookies," in which case filefront will give an "Invalid session" error and not allow the download. If you are using Internet Explorer go to: Tools --> Internet Options --> Privacy --> and set the slider to "High" or "Medium High" Then give it another try. Here again are the links (I checked and made sure they work): Here is the link to my kilometers and meters version for SHIII: http://files.filefront.com/plotboard.../fileinfo.html This link will take you to the yards and nautical miles version for SHIV: http://files.filefront.com/plotboard.../fileinfo.html Here is a link to chapter six of the pub 1310 plotting manual: http://files.filefront.com/plotting_.../fileinfo.html Here is a link to the complete "Radar Navigation and Maneuvering Board Manual" Pub.1310: http://files.filefront.com/pub1310_c.../fileinfo.html Hope this helps. __________________ "It needs that I go -- it is not necessary I should live." Pompey Last edited by muser; 03-02-2007 at 10:28 PM.

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