Survivors Mod

sonicninja · 12-01-2006, 05:12 PM

Ahoy,

I think a great new addition to the GWX addon would be to see the crew of sinking ships bobbing about in the water, just for that little bit of extra realism.

Just a thought I wanted to share with my fellow shipmates

_Seth_ · 12-01-2006, 05:20 PM

That would be cool. We should also be able to run over them...:rotfl::rotfl:

Sailor Steve · 12-01-2006, 05:21 PM

Several modders have tried to do just that. The problem is that anything coming off the ship disapears after a few seconds. They tried forever to do lifeboats.

Albrecht Von Hesse · 12-01-2006, 09:34 PM

OK, other than creating some multiplayer missions I'm not that familiar with the 'meat-and-bones' of the innards of the game. Does the career game spawn like you can do in the single/multiplayer missions? If so, could a lifeboat boat be designed, and set it to automatically spawn when it is specifically triggered, and have the trigger set for when a ship sinks?

What I'm thinking of is a brand-new ship class, called (heh) 'lifeboat'. When spawned, it spawns on the surface, at 0kt, located within 50 meters of the triggering event. The triggering event would be when a ship starts to sink (reaches 0 HP or floods enough to sink or is critically hit).

Is that possible?

p.s. If that is possible, you could then create another ship class, called 'survivor'. It would be drawn the shape and size of a person floating chest up in the water wearing a life preservoir, and again would spawn on the surface at 0kt.

nightdagger · 12-01-2006, 09:53 PM

Except for the class Survivor-Bernard. He would spawn at 1337 knots.

Seriously, that would add atmosphere but in the end wouldn't make much of a difference.

TarJak · 12-01-2006, 10:35 PM

There is a mod somewhere which has the "bodies" of sailors on targets getting thrown in the air. IIRC there was a lot of discussion about how to get the lifeboats to spawn in the mods threads somewhere. Dunno what became of it all. Sergbuto has a nice picture of a lifeboat on his site but no download. perhaps a PM might get a fuller explanation of why it's not there.

hyperion2206 · 12-02-2006, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by _Seth_

That would be cool. We should also be able to run over them...:rotfl::rotfl:

That's not a good idea, unless you like to be court- martialed!:rotfl:

_Seth_ · 12-02-2006, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hyperion2206

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Seth_

That would be cool. We should also be able to run over them...:rotfl::rotfl:

That's not a good idea, unless you like to be court- martialed!:rotfl:

:rotfl::rotfl:Well, we could blame Bernard......

Bernard (with his girlish voice) "Oh herr kaleun, herr kaleun, there are some cute men in the water!!! We have to help them!!"

Kaleun: "Nein, Dummkopf, theze are the enemy! We cannot pick them up, Dönitz orderz!!"

Bernard: "Jawohl, herr kaleun! (Bernard thinking: But i will still save those nice looking sailor boys! I will be the hero!!)

Epilog: After the Uboat speeded over the survivors at flank speed, Bernard still didnt realize what a stupid move he made...

Melonfish · 12-02-2006, 03:58 AM

"Herr Kaleun! we cannot close the bow caps!"

"why not?"

"we appear to have life jackets stuck in them..."

this is why they don't have floating sailors.
plus there's the whole using the flak gun on the survivors which is just plain evil.
pete

Corsair · 12-02-2006, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicninja

Ahoy,

I think a great new addition to the GWX addon would be to see the crew of sinking ships bobbing about in the water, just for that little bit of extra realism.

How about them burning in the middle of oil spills or in SHIV being attacked by sharks while shouting for help ? That would be some realism...

PS : 2nd degree humor here... (just in case)

Jimbuna · 12-02-2006, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicninja

Ahoy,

I think a great new addition to the GWX addon would be to see the crew of sinking ships bobbing about in the water, just for that little bit of extra realism.

Just a thought I wanted to share with my fellow shipmates

Tis a bit late for suggestions like that I'm afraid :hmm: ...beta testing GWX has just finished and is due to be released real soon

Unless of course the final version has some additional components included that the Kpt. didn't tell us about

_Seth_ · 12-02-2006, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melonfish

"Herr Kaleun! we cannot close the bow caps!"

"why not?"

"we appear to have life jackets stuck in them..."

this is why they don't have floating sailors.
plus there's the whole using the flak gun on the survivors which is just plain evil.
pete

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

andy_311 · 12-02-2006, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Corsair

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicninja

Ahoy,

I think a great new addition to the GWX addon would be to see the crew of sinking ships bobbing about in the water, just for that little bit of extra realism.

How about them burning in the middle of oil spills or in SHIV being attacked by sharks while shouting for help ? That would be some realism...

PS : 2nd degree humor here... (just in case)

They don't burn I sailed through buring oil (I assume it burning oil sank a tanker and there was a fire on the surface)and my gun crew sailed straight through it not a scratch.

AVGWarhawk · 12-02-2006, 05:53 AM

I think a lot has to do with abandoning the life boat and survivors because these survivors would become either cannon fodder, flak gun fodder or propeller fodder. More or less became a morality issue for the original developers and modders.

kimuraijn · 12-02-2006, 07:23 AM

That would be a nice effect , how about adding in something saving the crew or trowing out some provisions . Historically U captains tried to do a humanitarian effort by trying to save the severly wounded and than giving water or food for the survivors . But still In this sim Some Ships are hostille . I put a torp into a tramp steamer , but she didnt sink . So I rasied the boat and fired deck rounds into her . Low and behold the damm thing started firing at me with its deck gun . I shot another torpedo into her blowing her up . What was that Tommy Thinking . I was thinking like a gentleman . But he forced me to sink him rapidly .. As The aussies say .. BUGGER . The tramp steamer wasnt worth 2 torpedoes . Wasnt like it was a tanker or something . May we all last too the end of the war . so far very lucky . My boat was severly damaged in the last patrol . 3 corvettes are no match for a lone U-Boat . I luckly got away after 3 hours . Rough ride though ..

12-01-2006, 05:12 PM	#1
sonicninja Ensign Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Periscope Depth Posts: 225 Downloads: 299 Uploads: 0	Survivors Mod Ahoy, I think a great new addition to the GWX addon would be to see the crew of sinking ships bobbing about in the water, just for that little bit of extra realism. Just a thought I wanted to share with my fellow shipmates

12-01-2006, 05:20 PM	#2
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,270 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	That would be cool. We should also be able to run over them...:rotfl::rotfl: __________________ http://www.youtube.com/sethproductions http://www.youtube.com/group/navalsim

12-01-2006, 05:21 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Just A Kid At Heart Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 600 miles from the nearest ocean. Posts: 45,385 Downloads: 411 Uploads: 227	Several modders have tried to do just that. The problem is that anything coming off the ship disapears after a few seconds. They tried forever to do lifeboats. __________________ "Realism is in how you play, not in the game settings." -Rockin Robbins, Subsim member

12-01-2006, 09:34 PM	#4
Albrecht Von Hesse Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Baltimore, MD (usually running patrols at my pc) Posts: 1,219 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	OK, other than creating some multiplayer missions I'm not that familiar with the 'meat-and-bones' of the innards of the game. Does the career game spawn like you can do in the single/multiplayer missions? If so, could a lifeboat boat be designed, and set it to automatically spawn when it is specifically triggered, and have the trigger set for when a ship sinks? What I'm thinking of is a brand-new ship class, called (heh) 'lifeboat'. When spawned, it spawns on the surface, at 0kt, located within 50 meters of the triggering event. The triggering event would be when a ship starts to sink (reaches 0 HP or floods enough to sink or is critically hit). Is that possible? p.s. If that is possible, you could then create another ship class, called 'survivor'. It would be drawn the shape and size of a person floating chest up in the water wearing a life preservoir, and again would spawn on the surface at 0kt. __________________ Albrecht von Hesse

12-01-2006, 10:35 PM	#6
TarJak Sea Knight Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 13,143 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	There is a mod somewhere which has the "bodies" of sailors on targets getting thrown in the air. IIRC there was a lot of discussion about how to get the lifeboats to spawn in the mods threads somewhere. Dunno what became of it all. Sergbuto has a nice picture of a lifeboat on his site but no download. perhaps a PM might get a fuller explanation of why it's not there. __________________ "there's nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all" - Peter Drucker GWX Website TarJaks Funkraum 2008 Subsim Meet Photo Album

12-01-2006, 09:53 PM	#5
nightdagger Officer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 244 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Except for the class Survivor-Bernard. He would spawn at 1337 knots. Seriously, that would add atmosphere but in the end wouldn't make much of a difference.

12-02-2006, 03:58 AM	#9
Melonfish XO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Warrington, UK Posts: 415 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	"Herr Kaleun! we cannot close the bow caps!" "why not?" "we appear to have life jackets stuck in them..." this is why they don't have floating sailors. plus there's the whole using the flak gun on the survivors which is just plain evil. pete __________________ Current Career: Pending- Commander: Current Total: Patrols: date: 84% realism, GWX 3.0 gold, SH3 Commander 3.2, 16km Atmos mod, D.I.D!

12-02-2006, 05:53 AM	#14
AVGWarhawk Buick Driver Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 23,486 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	I think a lot has to do with abandoning the life boat and survivors because these survivors would become either cannon fodder, flak gun fodder or propeller fodder. More or less became a morality issue for the original developers and modders. __________________ Good hands. Bad taste in cars.

12-02-2006, 07:23 AM	#15
kimuraijn Weps Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 356 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	U Captains Were Gentlemen That would be a nice effect , how about adding in something saving the crew or trowing out some provisions . Historically U captains tried to do a humanitarian effort by trying to save the severly wounded and than giving water or food for the survivors . But still In this sim Some Ships are hostille . I put a torp into a tramp steamer , but she didnt sink . So I rasied the boat and fired deck rounds into her . Low and behold the damm thing started firing at me with its deck gun . I shot another torpedo into her blowing her up . What was that Tommy Thinking . I was thinking like a gentleman . But he forced me to sink him rapidly .. As The aussies say .. BUGGER . The tramp steamer wasnt worth 2 torpedoes . Wasnt like it was a tanker or something . May we all last too the end of the war . so far very lucky . My boat was severly damaged in the last patrol . 3 corvettes are no match for a lone U-Boat . I luckly got away after 3 hours . Rough ride though .. __________________ Kapitän Leutnant Braten Eier in Silent Hunter 5, nact toten U-77

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