Maps/Anchors

Red Devil · 10-17-17, 08:30 AM

I asked this before but part of a greater topic now cant find it. Can someone remind me how to remove the LARGE ANCHORS from a map. Having recently re-installed SH4 after some sort of problem I installed my usual mods and put the FJB coloured maps in, manually because JSGME wouldn't work on it, the anchors are HUGE!! Ands, today, returning to base saw on the map that I didn't have a base (tilted anchor). huh?

Although not marked, I headed back to Brisbane and was able to dock

propbeanie · 10-17-17, 10:46 AM

It sounds like your game is pulling in bad data, if the anchors are "HUGE!!" Your CareerStart and Flotillas files have to match in order to have the "tilted anchor" to designate your home port. Now, if it's certain dates, or between certain dates in the game, there are some short stretches in 1941 and early 1942 where it will NOT show that you have a "Home Port" with a tilted anchor, but those time frames are as your "home port" base is being moved to another location. So when you go from Subic Bay to Surabaya, there's like a two day period, and then from Surabaya to Fremantle, it's similar. The same thing can happen when you request a "Transfer" in the game. However, those "HUGE!!" anchors should all be the same size, and not be a viewing distraction. Your screen resolution does come into play in this also, so be sure your game is set to the same display setting as your Windows desktop, which should match your LCD monitor's "Native" resolution. Post your mod list, and I'm sure some one of the "old" heads here can help with the order, if there's a problem with that, or tell you if maybe you have a conflict of some sort...

Red Devil · 10-17-17, 11:15 AM

I know about the inter port delay, its not that. My screen res is same as desktop.

RSRDC TMO V502
RSRDC V5xx patch 1
1_Trigger Maru Overhaul 2-5
Pacific Sound mod
Websters improved US torps for 1.4 and 1.5
Webster Ship Manuvering fix for 1.4 and 1.5

The FJB map I put in manually because JSGME does not run it. I chose colour then added files 1 x 1.

Parked up but not use Mods:

SH4 Sound mod
TMO visuals for RSRDC
Torpex Torps
Webster selected new sounds

propbeanie · 10-17-17, 12:04 PM

You have your RSRDC and TMO listed 'backwards'. Do them TMO 2.5, TMO patch, RSRDC, RSRDC patch for those four. Depending upon what you want to hear in the sound, either do the Sound mod first or fifth. The two Webster's mods might not be 100% compatible with TMO and RSRDC. Then your manual installing of the map mod may well be what messed up your anchors.

Now, Fred's maps do work fine with JSGME. However, you do have to grab the version that you want out of his main folder, and put ~that~ into the MODS folder. The same thing with the Webster's mods. If you look in the folders for each of the mods, you'll see other folders below that "main" folder that hold the mod itself for either v1.4 or v1.5 of SH4. If you look in your main SH4 folder now, and see folders with "Webster's..." name on them next to the "Data" and "Support" folders, then they are not truly activated. Be careful of your MODS folder structure.

Red Devil · 10-17-17, 12:09 PM

I did grab the version I wanted on maps. I am using the same settings as previous installation, which a win upgrade stopped working the other day. Will change order of mods in a sec. Thanks.

No sign of websters folders in SH4

Red Devil · 10-17-17, 12:31 PM

ok, removed all mods then installed them in your order.

now:

1_TriggerMaru Overhaul 2-5 c(grey'ed out)
TMO visuals for RSRDC (presume this is the patch you meant as I have no other) (grey'd out)
RSRDC TMO V502 (Grey'd out)
RSRDC patch 1
SH4 Sound mod
Webster improved torps (this is grey'd out)
Websters ship manoevering
FJB colour Map extracted via JSGME colour folder (never used to work, but manually no problem but this time JSGME worked)

Map shows large anchors, and no home base, having left Manila on new career? I am just off the land.

Red Devil · 10-17-17, 03:29 PM

Took sh4 out and reinstalled, added patch 1.4 which I had not put in previously. loaded mods as per above post and then FJB Colour maps (went in but do not work). I am going to try manually later, but anchors on standard map are nice and small. I may swallow my hte of big anchors and remain on this bland map!

propbeanie · 10-17-17, 03:39 PM

Well neither TMO 2.5 nor RSRDC 502 are compatible with Silent Hunter v1.4. You need to use the v1.5 with Uboats... If you've got v1.5 with the Uboats, that's already got all of v1.4 in it, and it is not necessary, and is counter-productive to put it in...

Red Devil · 10-17-17, 04:36 PM

I wont use u boats, much as I admire their bravery, I will not sink my own ships. I have always stood by that.

anyway, whilst experimenting will remove 1.4 from stock then load mods again

propbeanie · 10-17-17, 05:30 PM

Silent Hunter 4 has several versions out there. The most common disk available for quite a while was v1.3. This is the version that Steam sells. Version 1.4 fixed some things, and left others, but was just a "patch" to be applied. This does not work with the Steam version of the game. The Uboats Add-on was v1.5, which was rolled into the Gold Edition and was the last release of Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific. You don't have to play the Uboats, but it is the latest update of the game. Most of the mods are written for it... You can see what version you have by right-clicking on the SH4.exe file and choosing Properties and clicking on the Details tab. You can also see it in the lower right-hand part of the game screen on the Main Menu.

Red Devil · 10-17-17, 06:32 PM

After much experimentation I am currently running SH4 with 1.4 and no mods, at least, for now its running smoothly. Mine is a 1.3 CD with SH1.4 as a download. I may well go into the steam version as I have several games in there. Following your ver tip, there is nothing to say anything in details.

Here in the UK its time for the big Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, will pursue this later tomorrow. Thanks for all you posts.

Red Devil · 10-18-17, 10:02 AM

Well, I seem to have it all in order now.

Started off this morning with standard SH4 and it was running quite well. So I manually added FJB colour maps (it refuses to work after loading with JSGME). And it was great, small anchors and lovely colouration. Ran a sub out of manilla and everything fine.

Added

1_TriggerMaru Overhaul 2-5
RSRDC TMO V502
RSRDC patch 1
TMO visuals for RSRDC
Torpex torpedo

in that order and loaded old Balao save from yesterday and its great, and maps are exactly as required, small anchors still.

Eventually decided to scrap all saves and begin anew with an s18, and thats where I stand.

10-17-17, 08:30 AM	#1
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	Maps/Anchors I asked this before but part of a greater topic now cant find it. Can someone remind me how to remove the LARGE ANCHORS from a map. Having recently re-installed SH4 after some sort of problem I installed my usual mods and put the FJB coloured maps in, manually because JSGME wouldn't work on it, the anchors are HUGE!! Ands, today, returning to base saw on the map that I didn't have a base (tilted anchor). huh? Although not marked, I headed back to Brisbane and was able to dock __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk Last edited by Red Devil; 10-17-17 at 08:51 AM.

10-17-17, 10:46 AM	#2
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,735 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	It sounds like your game is pulling in bad data, if the anchors are "HUGE!!" Your CareerStart and Flotillas files have to match in order to have the "tilted anchor" to designate your home port. Now, if it's certain dates, or between certain dates in the game, there are some short stretches in 1941 and early 1942 where it will NOT show that you have a "Home Port" with a tilted anchor, but those time frames are as your "home port" base is being moved to another location. So when you go from Subic Bay to Surabaya, there's like a two day period, and then from Surabaya to Fremantle, it's similar. The same thing can happen when you request a "Transfer" in the game. However, those "HUGE!!" anchors should all be the same size, and not be a viewing distraction. Your screen resolution does come into play in this also, so be sure your game is set to the same display setting as your Windows desktop, which should match your LCD monitor's "Native" resolution. Post your mod list, and I'm sure some one of the "old" heads here can help with the order, if there's a problem with that, or tell you if maybe you have a conflict of some sort... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

10-17-17, 11:15 AM	#3
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	I know about the inter port delay, its not that. My screen res is same as desktop. RSRDC TMO V502 RSRDC V5xx patch 1 1_Trigger Maru Overhaul 2-5 Pacific Sound mod Websters improved US torps for 1.4 and 1.5 Webster Ship Manuvering fix for 1.4 and 1.5 The FJB map I put in manually because JSGME does not run it. I chose colour then added files 1 x 1. Parked up but not use Mods: SH4 Sound mod TMO visuals for RSRDC Torpex Torps Webster selected new sounds __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

10-17-17, 12:04 PM	#4
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,735 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	You have your RSRDC and TMO listed 'backwards'. Do them TMO 2.5, TMO patch, RSRDC, RSRDC patch for those four. Depending upon what you want to hear in the sound, either do the Sound mod first or fifth. The two Webster's mods might not be 100% compatible with TMO and RSRDC. Then your manual installing of the map mod may well be what messed up your anchors. Now, Fred's maps do work fine with JSGME. However, you do have to grab the version that you want out of his main folder, and put ~that~ into the MODS folder. The same thing with the Webster's mods. If you look in the folders for each of the mods, you'll see other folders below that "main" folder that hold the mod itself for either v1.4 or v1.5 of SH4. If you look in your main SH4 folder now, and see folders with "Webster's..." name on them next to the "Data" and "Support" folders, then they are not truly activated. Be careful of your MODS folder structure. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

10-17-17, 12:09 PM	#5
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	I did grab the version I wanted on maps. I am using the same settings as previous installation, which a win upgrade stopped working the other day. Will change order of mods in a sec. Thanks. No sign of websters folders in SH4 __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

10-17-17, 12:31 PM	#6
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	ok, removed all mods then installed them in your order. now: 1_TriggerMaru Overhaul 2-5 c(grey'ed out) TMO visuals for RSRDC (presume this is the patch you meant as I have no other) (grey'd out) RSRDC TMO V502 (Grey'd out) RSRDC patch 1 SH4 Sound mod Webster improved torps (this is grey'd out) Websters ship manoevering FJB colour Map extracted via JSGME colour folder (never used to work, but manually no problem but this time JSGME worked) Map shows large anchors, and no home base, having left Manila on new career? I am just off the land. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

10-17-17, 03:29 PM	#7
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	Took sh4 out and reinstalled, added patch 1.4 which I had not put in previously. loaded mods as per above post and then FJB Colour maps (went in but do not work). I am going to try manually later, but anchors on standard map are nice and small. I may swallow my hte of big anchors and remain on this bland map! __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

10-17-17, 03:39 PM	#8
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,735 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	Well neither TMO 2.5 nor RSRDC 502 are compatible with Silent Hunter v1.4. You need to use the v1.5 with Uboats... If you've got v1.5 with the Uboats, that's already got all of v1.4 in it, and it is not necessary, and is counter-productive to put it in... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

10-17-17, 04:36 PM	#9
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	I wont use u boats, much as I admire their bravery, I will not sink my own ships. I have always stood by that. anyway, whilst experimenting will remove 1.4 from stock then load mods again __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

10-17-17, 05:30 PM	#10
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,735 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	Silent Hunter 4 has several versions out there. The most common disk available for quite a while was v1.3. This is the version that Steam sells. Version 1.4 fixed some things, and left others, but was just a "patch" to be applied. This does not work with the Steam version of the game. The Uboats Add-on was v1.5, which was rolled into the Gold Edition and was the last release of Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific. You don't have to play the Uboats, but it is the latest update of the game. Most of the mods are written for it... You can see what version you have by right-clicking on the SH4.exe file and choosing Properties and clicking on the Details tab. You can also see it in the lower right-hand part of the game screen on the Main Menu. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

10-17-17, 06:32 PM	#11
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	After much experimentation I am currently running SH4 with 1.4 and no mods, at least, for now its running smoothly. Mine is a 1.3 CD with SH1.4 as a download. I may well go into the steam version as I have several games in there. Following your ver tip, there is nothing to say anything in details. Here in the UK its time for the big Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, will pursue this later tomorrow. Thanks for all you posts. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

10-18-17, 10:02 AM	#12
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	Well, I seem to have it all in order now. Started off this morning with standard SH4 and it was running quite well. So I manually added FJB colour maps (it refuses to work after loading with JSGME). And it was great, small anchors and lovely colouration. Ran a sub out of manilla and everything fine. Added 1_TriggerMaru Overhaul 2-5 RSRDC TMO V502 RSRDC patch 1 TMO visuals for RSRDC Torpex torpedo in that order and loaded old Balao save from yesterday and its great, and maps are exactly as required, small anchors still. Eventually decided to scrap all saves and begin anew with an s18, and thats where I stand. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk Last edited by Red Devil; 10-18-17 at 02:28 PM.