Those with 3D modelling skills post here.

XabbaRus · 01-29-06, 11:49 AM

Self explanatory.

Just been brought to my attention the discrepency in size between ships in DW.

Looks like there is a lot to be done.

If anyone is interested in a rolling program of 3D ship building and division of labour then post here. Like has been done for the database then same for the models. I can't be the only builder here can I?

TLAM Strike · 01-29-06, 12:11 PM

Modeling, Mapping, Painting only thing I can't do is convert to .j3d.

OKO · 01-29-06, 12:20 PM

never did that

I think I couldn't help here, just making you lost your time

Is the resize process a difficult one ?
not only to change a scale ? (see my knowledge ...)

bobterrius · 01-29-06, 12:28 PM

I am interested by painting existing models but I don't know how to open the damned 3d.grp

For me only paint number of the boat or nationality mark will be good.

OneShot · 01-29-06, 01:12 PM

Take a look here for all the tools you are looking for :-)

http://www.orionwarrior.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3277

UPDATE : I just added some tools for Skinning as of 1930GMT / 01/29/06

bobterrius · 01-29-06, 01:22 PM

I have also download its but it doesn't function.

I go to retry and persevere if it's the good way.

OneShot · 01-29-06, 01:32 PM

The Decompress.exe works ... I use it myself.

Just copy the file to the Graphics folder where 3D.grp is located and open up a CMD window (RUN -> cmd) then type decompress 3D(.grp - im not so sure on adding the extension tho).

OneShot · 01-29-06, 01:54 PM

I found two Exporter for 3DSMax 6 & 7 to J3D on the net. I'm not sure if thats the right ones and if they actually work. So could please someone of the Modellers check them out. They are attached to the Mod Tools Post on the CADC. Thanks

I've posted 3ds to J3D exporter for 3DSMax 4 & 5 as well.

Cheers
OS

bobterrius · 01-29-06, 01:58 PM

I'm sorry but i don't manage to do work it.

And what a draw is better that a long speech.

Ramius · 01-29-06, 02:57 PM

The decompress file must be run from a .bat file (makes it easier).

The .bat file must be of the following format....

decompress 3d

If you want to extract any of the other .grp files then either replace the 3d part or add another line to the .bat file.

@Oneshot - I very much doubt the v4 and upwards J3D exporters will work as SCS only ever released a version for v3. But you never know, they might work.

TLAM Strike · 01-29-06, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKO

Is the resize process a difficult one ?
not only to change a scale ? (see my knowledge ...)

Well changing the scale is easy but resizing would require a rebuild of the model (hard) if I understand what youâ€™re asking. If I had the .j3d (or .3ds) and texture maps of a ship I could rescale (unformly make bigger or smaller) the model and export it to .3ds in a few minutes baring any problems with the texture maps and the new model. Then someone just needs to convert it back to .j3d for me and boom a correct scale model.

XabbaRus · 01-29-06, 05:36 PM

3DS to J3D convertor for 3DS MAX 4?

The one we have from Jamie is only for MAX ver 3.0

Oneshot where did you get it from?

If you have one for version 4 that works then I'd be well interested.

OneShot · 01-29-06, 06:05 PM

Geez ... nobody really knows DOS anymore huh?

Well Ramius, you don't need to use a .bat (Batch file) all you gotta do is use the commandline. Anyway ... the file works but you were in the wrong place in the commandline.

Type :
cd \ (brings you to root)
cd Program Files (or whatever thats called in French)
cd (insert the right path to the game directory/graphics folder)
decompress 3d

Different way :
Create a file with notepad, put in the following line

decompress 3d

and save as unzip3d.bat (or whatever you wanna call it, just make sure the extension is .bat). Put that file where the decompress.exe is and excecute.

Cheers
OS

TLAM Strike · 01-29-06, 11:17 PM

Ok so what ships do we really need to remodel? I compiled a short list of the really bad ones...
Fuqing AO
Charles DeGaulle (Resize)
Ouragon LSD
Type 143A (Resize)
Yugo SSM (I could make a model of a Sang-O and use that)
Gearing

One "would be nice" one is:
AI FFG7/PFG-2
>Maybe use the player verson? Or totaly redo all OHPs, they are missing some details like the sonar dome...

XabbaRus · 01-30-06, 03:38 AM

TLAM you have a J3D to 3DS convertor?

01-29-06, 11:49 AM	#1
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Those with 3D modelling skills post here. Self explanatory. Just been brought to my attention the discrepency in size between ships in DW. Looks like there is a lot to be done. If anyone is interested in a rolling program of 3D ship building and division of labour then post here. Like has been done for the database then same for the models. I can't be the only builder here can I? __________________

01-29-06, 12:11 PM	#2
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Modeling, Mapping, Painting only thing I can't do is convert to .j3d. __________________

01-29-06, 01:12 PM	#5
OneShot Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 956 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Take a look here for all the tools you are looking for :-) http://www.orionwarrior.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3277 UPDATE : I just added some tools for Skinning as of 1930GMT / 01/29/06 __________________ All the things you always wanted to know about Dangerous Waters but never dared to ask!

01-29-06, 01:22 PM	#6
bobterrius Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: La Ciotat (France) Posts: 11 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have also download its but it doesn't function. I go to retry and persevere if it's the good way. __________________ Quand on veut, on peut!!!

01-29-06, 01:32 PM	#7
OneShot Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 956 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The Decompress.exe works ... I use it myself. Just copy the file to the Graphics folder where 3D.grp is located and open up a CMD window (RUN -> cmd) then type decompress 3D(.grp - im not so sure on adding the extension tho). __________________ All the things you always wanted to know about Dangerous Waters but never dared to ask!

01-29-06, 12:20 PM	#3
OKO Commander Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Solar system, mainly on earth Posts: 476 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	never did that I think I couldn't help here, just making you lost your time Is the resize process a difficult one ? not only to change a scale ? (see my knowledge ...)

01-29-06, 12:28 PM	#4
bobterrius Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: La Ciotat (France) Posts: 11 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I am interested by painting existing models but I don't know how to open the damned 3d.grp For me only paint number of the boat or nationality mark will be good.

01-29-06, 01:54 PM	#8
OneShot Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 956 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I found two Exporter for 3DSMax 6 & 7 to J3D on the net. I'm not sure if thats the right ones and if they actually work. So could please someone of the Modellers check them out. They are attached to the Mod Tools Post on the CADC. Thanks I've posted 3ds to J3D exporter for 3DSMax 4 & 5 as well. Cheers OS __________________ All the things you always wanted to know about Dangerous Waters but never dared to ask!

01-29-06, 01:58 PM	#9
bobterrius Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: La Ciotat (France) Posts: 11 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm sorry but i don't manage to do work it. And what a draw is better that a long speech. __________________ Quand on veut, on peut!!!

01-29-06, 02:57 PM	#10
Ramius Commander Join Date: May 2001 Location: At sea (again) Posts: 457 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	The decompress file must be run from a .bat file (makes it easier). The .bat file must be of the following format.... decompress 3d If you want to extract any of the other .grp files then either replace the 3d part or add another line to the .bat file. @Oneshot - I very much doubt the v4 and upwards J3D exporters will work as SCS only ever released a version for v3. But you never know, they might work. __________________ There is a forgotten, nay even forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is England

01-29-06, 05:36 PM	#12
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	3DS to J3D convertor for 3DS MAX 4? The one we have from Jamie is only for MAX ver 3.0 Oneshot where did you get it from? If you have one for version 4 that works then I'd be well interested. __________________

01-29-06, 06:05 PM	#13
OneShot Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 956 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Geez ... nobody really knows DOS anymore huh? Well Ramius, you don't need to use a .bat (Batch file) all you gotta do is use the commandline. Anyway ... the file works but you were in the wrong place in the commandline. Type : cd \ (brings you to root) cd Program Files (or whatever thats called in French) cd (insert the right path to the game directory/graphics folder) decompress 3d Different way : Create a file with notepad, put in the following line decompress 3d and save as unzip3d.bat (or whatever you wanna call it, just make sure the extension is .bat). Put that file where the decompress.exe is and excecute. Cheers OS __________________ All the things you always wanted to know about Dangerous Waters but never dared to ask!

01-29-06, 11:17 PM	#14
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Ok so what ships do we really need to remodel? I compiled a short list of the really bad ones... Fuqing AO Charles DeGaulle (Resize) Ouragon LSD Type 143A (Resize) Yugo SSM (I could make a model of a Sang-O and use that) Gearing One "would be nice" one is: AI FFG7/PFG-2 >Maybe use the player verson? Or totaly redo all OHPs, they are missing some details like the sonar dome... __________________

01-30-06, 03:38 AM	#15
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	TLAM you have a J3D to 3DS convertor? __________________