MPA's overpowered?

thereddaikon · 08-12-17, 01:29 PM

I've had to switch from elite to realistic mode because in missions where MPA's are flying around I just can't catch a break.

I can be down around 1000 feet depth running ultra silent with the sensors showing I am completely invisible to surface contacts. Even the helos unable to find me but those damn bears seem to always know just where to search and their MAD always locates me. If I don't go flank and make aggressive maneuvers I'll have a spread of depth charges on top of me in seconds.

That doesn't seem right to me. Going off of what actual submariners have said online, aircraft aren't supposed to be THAT good at finding you. And MAD isn't supposed to be that accurate. I find it hard to believe that an over sized metal detector flying at a few hundred mph 1500 feet above me can give such perfect a solution when the sub is made out of non magnetic steel and he only gets a split second above me.

Is this realistic? Are they overpowered? Or is this a gameplay choice on the dev's part to make the game more challenging? What do you guys do to counter this? I like playing at elite and do fine otherwise but the MPA's always have my number.

billman · 08-12-17, 07:47 PM

They probably made it over accurate on purpose. In many games, raising the difficulty doesn't make the ai smarter, rather the ai cheats and gets buffs to its own equipment. The idea is at the player already has a significant advantage over the ai, and the best way to even the odds up is to let the AI cheat. Anyway my point is, it may not be realistic but it's supposed to overcome the inherit advantage the player has over the ai and make it challenging.

LeopardDriver · 08-13-17, 02:27 AM

Not sure what the problem ist there. I never have any problems with helikopters or planes. Maybe you should decrease the detection range to 500 yards. That helps.

REDDQ · 08-14-17, 01:15 PM

On one hand MPA is overpowered, on the other, Soviet depth charges are underpowered, rocket torpedoes aren't in yet and the general loadout is fraction of what planes are suppose to carry. Kind of balance deal it seems.

thereddaikon · 08-14-17, 02:27 PM

SSN-14's and RBUs are implemented. I'm not sure what you mean by rocket torpedoes not working. RBUs are basically Russian hedgehogs, rocket depth charges and SSN-14s are the Russian ASROC.

REDDQ · 08-14-17, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thereddaikon

SSN-14's and RBUs are implemented. I'm not sure what you mean by rocket torpedoes not working. RBUs are basically Russian hedgehogs, rocket depth charges and SSN-14s are the Russian ASROC.

Sorry, I should have just name what I mean - APR-1 and APR-2 solid-fuel rocket torpedoes. Or underwater missile, nomenclature ain't clear.

It is dropped from a plane or helicopter like a depth charge. Than it passively looks for a target. When detected it fires its engine and darts towards submarine at 60 knots.

thereddaikon · 08-14-17, 03:42 PM

Huh never heard of those, for a second I thought you were talking about the Shkval super cavitating torpedo.

REDDQ · 08-14-17, 04:42 PM

Yeah, I should clarify I mean airborne armament.

Aktungbby · 08-15-17, 09:12 AM

billman!

after a long silent run!

08-12-17, 01:29 PM	#1
thereddaikon Watch Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 22 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	MPA's overpowered? I've had to switch from elite to realistic mode because in missions where MPA's are flying around I just can't catch a break. I can be down around 1000 feet depth running ultra silent with the sensors showing I am completely invisible to surface contacts. Even the helos unable to find me but those damn bears seem to always know just where to search and their MAD always locates me. If I don't go flank and make aggressive maneuvers I'll have a spread of depth charges on top of me in seconds. That doesn't seem right to me. Going off of what actual submariners have said online, aircraft aren't supposed to be THAT good at finding you. And MAD isn't supposed to be that accurate. I find it hard to believe that an over sized metal detector flying at a few hundred mph 1500 feet above me can give such perfect a solution when the sub is made out of non magnetic steel and he only gets a split second above me. Is this realistic? Are they overpowered? Or is this a gameplay choice on the dev's part to make the game more challenging? What do you guys do to counter this? I like playing at elite and do fine otherwise but the MPA's always have my number.

08-15-17, 09:12 AM	#9
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,822 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! billman!after a long silent run! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

08-12-17, 07:47 PM	#2
billman Nub Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 3 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	They probably made it over accurate on purpose. In many games, raising the difficulty doesn't make the ai smarter, rather the ai cheats and gets buffs to its own equipment. The idea is at the player already has a significant advantage over the ai, and the best way to even the odds up is to let the AI cheat. Anyway my point is, it may not be realistic but it's supposed to overcome the inherit advantage the player has over the ai and make it challenging.

08-13-17, 02:27 AM	#3
LeopardDriver Bosun Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 61 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Not sure what the problem ist there. I never have any problems with helikopters or planes. Maybe you should decrease the detection range to 500 yards. That helps.

08-14-17, 01:15 PM	#4
REDDQ Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 14 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	On one hand MPA is overpowered, on the other, Soviet depth charges are underpowered, rocket torpedoes aren't in yet and the general loadout is fraction of what planes are suppose to carry. Kind of balance deal it seems.

08-14-17, 02:27 PM	#5
thereddaikon Watch Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 22 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	SSN-14's and RBUs are implemented. I'm not sure what you mean by rocket torpedoes not working. RBUs are basically Russian hedgehogs, rocket depth charges and SSN-14s are the Russian ASROC.

08-14-17, 03:42 PM	#7
thereddaikon Watch Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 22 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Huh never heard of those, for a second I thought you were talking about the Shkval super cavitating torpedo.

08-14-17, 04:42 PM	#8
REDDQ Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 14 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I should clarify I mean airborne armament.