Axis convoys

bigboywooly · 07-07-08, 04:06 PM

Does anyone have any information on German\Axis convoys ?
Allied convoys are much and well documented but cant find anything on Axis ones which is a surprise as the KM were meticulous in documenting everything

Anyone ?

07-07-08, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Does anyone have any information on German\Axis convoys?

You might try the following book, it has a few pages regarding German convoys around Norway. Out of approximately 175 books that I have about the German Navy and the Battle of the Atlantic, this is the only one I can immediately think of that discusses German convoys.

War at Sea, 1935 - 1945 by Jurgen Rohwer, ISBN: 1840673621, my edition is dated 2001

check pp. 87 - 89 in the chapter Artic and Norway

iambecomelife · 07-07-08, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Does anyone have any information on German\Axis convoys ?
Allied convoys are much and well documented but cant find anything on Axis ones which is a surprise as the KM were meticulous in documenting everything

Anyone ?

North Sea convoys should consist of maybe half a dozen small merchants of no more than 3000 GRT, along with an almost equal number of escorts and flak ships. Maybe one or two medium merchants at most.

rowi58 · 07-08-08, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Does anyone have any information on German\Axis convoys ?
Allied convoys are much and well documented but cant find anything on Axis ones which is a surprise as the KM were meticulous in documenting everything

Anyone ?

Hi BBW,

try this one:

http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/kv-ndx.htm

Belongs to the (german) site:

http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/chronik.htm

You know how to "translate" it online. It's a - nearly - "official" page.

Greets
rowi58

bigboywooly · 07-08-08, 09:56 AM

danke Rowi

I have that site bookmarked too

Though a lot to go through to find any axis konvoi
All helps though

rowi58 · 07-10-08, 01:28 AM

Hi BBW,

to get it a little faster - klick here:

http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg...kv-tabelle.htm

A list with axis convoys running to north africa. Same site.

Greets
rowi58

07-10-08, 01:44 AM

Exactly! Axis Convoys I miss the most. There were not too many of them but still..

bigboywooly · 07-10-08, 10:29 AM

Thank you again Rowi

Great help

Norway convoys axis ?
lol

Hitman · 07-10-08, 12:22 PM

I have a book about german Destroyers and Torpedo Boats in WW2 that details all their operations, including of course convoy escort. It is written by Volkmar Kühn and is only in german AFAIK. The title: "Torpedoboote und Zerstörer im Einsatz 1939-1945" Flechsig Verlag. I bought it in Wien last year. If you want information about specific convoy routes I can try to find it for you in the book :hmm:

bigboywooly · 07-10-08, 12:59 PM

Thnx Hitman

The Ge convoys are poorly documented on the net at any rate

I know there was and had to be some along Norway and the french coast

rowi58 · 07-11-08, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Thnx Hitman

The Ge convoys are poorly documented on the net at any rate

I know there was and had to be some along Norway and the french coast

Hi BBW,

the problem is: there was some traffic along the coast (Norwy), but only some (3-5) ships together. So you can't speak from a "Convoy" in the sense of "Allied Convoys". Mostly close to the coast with full air coverage by the Luftwaffe.

In LSH3 3.0, i've scripted some german "convoys" from Kiel/Wilhelmshaven up to Bergen and Trondheim - more as an "eye-candy".

Greets
rowi58

Sailor Steve · 07-11-08, 10:08 AM

I have a book stored somewhere, which means I can't actually get it out and quote it. It's one of those novel-like paperbacks that came out in the early '50s, and is specifically about British MTB actions in the Channel. The author describes nightly patrols looking for small convoys and the actions involved when they were found. If I remember correctly he says that there were regular convoys of small ships from Seebruge to Wilhelmshaven, and that they were escorted by flaklighters and schnellboots. This led to some wild-and-hairy skirmishes between the torpedo boats of both sides.

Not much help, but I thought I'd throw that in.

bigboywooly · 07-11-08, 10:19 AM

Every little helps Steve
Appreciated

You too Rowi
As usual my friend

07-07-08, 04:06 PM	#1
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bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	danke Rowi I have that site bookmarked too Though a lot to go through to find any axis konvoi All helps though __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

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bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Thank you again Rowi Great help Norway convoys axis ? lol __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

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Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	I have a book about german Destroyers and Torpedo Boats in WW2 that details all their operations, including of course convoy escort. It is written by Volkmar Kühn and is only in german AFAIK. The title: "Torpedoboote und Zerstörer im Einsatz 1939-1945" Flechsig Verlag. I bought it in Wien last year. If you want information about specific convoy routes I can try to find it for you in the book :hmm: __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

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bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Thnx Hitman The Ge convoys are poorly documented on the net at any rate I know there was and had to be some along Norway and the french coast __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

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rowi58 Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Karlsruhe Posts: 679 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Hi BBW, to get it a little faster - klick here: http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg...kv-tabelle.htm A list with axis convoys running to north africa. Same site. Greets rowi58

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I have a book stored somewhere, which means I can't actually get it out and quote it. It's one of those novel-like paperbacks that came out in the early '50s, and is specifically about British MTB actions in the Channel. The author describes nightly patrols looking for small convoys and the actions involved when they were found. If I remember correctly he says that there were regular convoys of small ships from Seebruge to Wilhelmshaven, and that they were escorted by flaklighters and schnellboots. This led to some wild-and-hairy skirmishes between the torpedo boats of both sides. Not much help, but I thought I'd throw that in. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-11-08, 10:19 AM	#13
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Every little helps Steve Appreciated You too Rowi As usual my friend __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41