T34 vs Tiger- Kursk 1943 coming soon!

[Friedrich-Wilhelm]

Hi ZW,

As you requested in your email, here is my bug report. I can't really say to what extent these issues are caused by my system, your software, or by installation mistakes I may have made. So here goes:

Christmas Missions:
I installed the two new mission for the German and Soviet campaigns when they became available around Christmas. The German mission (first mission of campaign) ran fine, up to the point when the Soviet infantry appears. Then, the game started to stutter considerably. Once these guys were gone, things went back to normal in regard to frame rates. With the recent update to the members-only-file, this issue has worsened. Then, even after the Soviet infantry were down, frame rates did not recover and the rest of the mission played only with extreme stutter.
The last German mission (Breakthrough) ran just fine.
The first Soviet mission ran a bit stuttery, too, but not as much as the German one. Lowering the graphics settings and resolution had no noticeable effect on the stutter. In your mission, the player's T-34 always pulls left on its own accord.

Members-only-file update:
Same problems as above. In addition to that, now, the last German mission, too, runs with a lot of stutter, especially when the KV-85s show up. The Pz III's have white, or light-grey turrets, while the chassis are sand-yellow. I think, I read something about a fix for that in the forum, but can't remember exactly where.

When opening the first version of the members-only-file, as well as the update, I got a message about a virus being quarantined ( Virus/Malware Mal_DRPR-3).

My systems specs are: Windows XP-Professional, AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3200+, 2.01 GHz, 2GB RAM, ATI-Radeon X600/550.

I like the missions and the new vehicles/units a lot. It would be great, if I could run all of this a bit more smoothly. I fiddled with the settings, but so far to no avail.

I hope this is not too frustrating a feedback to you. It is meant as constructive criticism, not as a complaint.

Best regards,

FW

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by Friedrich-Wilhelm

Hi ZW,

As you requested in your email, here is my bug report. I can't really say to what extent these issues are caused by my system, your software, or by installation mistakes I may have made. So here goes:

Christmas Missions:
I installed the two new mission for the German and Soviet campaigns when they became available around Christmas. The German mission (first mission of campaign) ran fine, up to the point when the Soviet infantry appears. Then, the game started to stutter considerably. Once these guys were gone, things went back to normal in regard to frame rates. With the recent update to the members-only-file, this issue has worsened. Then, even after the Soviet infantry were down, frame rates did not recover and the rest of the mission played only with extreme stutter.
The last German mission (Breakthrough) ran just fine.
The first Soviet mission ran a bit stuttery, too, but not as much as the German one. Lowering the graphics settings and resolution had no noticeable effect on the stutter. In your mission, the player's T-34 always pulls left on its own accord.

Members-only-file update:
Same problems as above. In addition to that, now, the last German mission, too, runs with a lot of stutter, especially when the KV-85s show up. The Pz III's have white, or light-grey turrets, while the chassis are sand-yellow. I think, I read something about a fix for that in the forum, but can't remember exactly where.

When opening the first version of the members-only-file, as well as the update, I got a message about a virus being quarantined ( Virus/Malware Mal_DRPR-3).

My systems specs are: Windows XP-Professional, AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3200+, 2.01 GHz, 2GB RAM, ATI-Radeon X600/550.

I like the missions and the new vehicles/units a lot. It would be great, if I could run all of this a bit more smoothly. I fiddled with the settings, but so far to no avail.

I hope this is not too frustrating a feedback to you. It is meant as constructive criticism, not as a complaint.

Best regards,

FW

Hi Roland,

It's not a complaint Roland it's just a bug report. And this is the kind
of report I need, so thanks Roland. About the T34 pulling left you might
try disabling the joystick if you have one. All else I am working to get
this stuff resolved.

Thanks again Roland

PS: You may have a virus "( Virus/Malware Mal_DRPR-3). "

ZW

[frinik]

Hello Fellow ZW Members.

With ZW's latest release of his updated 6th and New German mission Tiger Break Out came some undesirable glitches and bugs.

I spoke with him about creating an open thread in which all of us would pool our experiences and share our findings of the problems that need to be addressedc and or fixed.

I think it makes sens to do it as a group rather thna piece meal tying up ZW with individual requests that may actually over lap in may respects.

I will list the problems I have experienced and in return feel free to post yours as they wil help ZW.Here s a l;ist of mine>

The Major ones.

1 Terminator KV85s These beasts seem to be immortal.You need at least a dozen shots to silence them and they never burn or explode or even emit smoke.They ll stop shooting but their guns would still track my Tiger. In real life Kvs are no better armoured than T 34/85.Thye kill my 2 wingmen tanks despite being shot to pieces.ZW told me the problem is being fixed.

2/ AI with X Ray eyes.The problem still persists with unseen tanks and guns shooting you to pieces through dense wood or behind hills.It really detracts from enjoying the game and prevents you from using ambushing or flanking manoeuvres.

3-the mission map is useless does not track your tank and no markers for Soviet units.

Minor bugs:

1- Panzer III s with whitish turrets(being fixed).I knw Friedrich Wilhelm expereinced the same problem.

2-Ballistics.those Soviet tanks can shoot like artillery it seems.The shots are way too curved or lobbed.(Being fixed).It seems to me too that the reload rate of Soviet tanks is too fast.This had been addressed and solved by Monk´s MMP3 patch but it s been overwritten by ZSW´s mod.

3) at the beginning of the mission there s a couple T34 that have been killed and still rushing forward at full speed like they are possessed. Eerie.

4) at tiimes there are white streak appearing in the fabric of the game. Minor glitches which don t really bother me.

Overall interesting mission.Lots of action, much, much improved over the original Surviving the Escape.New models, inventive, wide open spaces, opportunity for action and manoeuvring.I like it.

Fellow ZW Members.Let´s hear it from you.

Regards

Frinik.

[KdF]

My quick report.

White Turrets - reported.

KV-85's - reported

AI X-ray eyes, I believe this comes from the origonal game release as the Tanks gun can still travel thru trees when turning, until that bug is fixed, I believe the AI Tanks will allways be able to see and shoot you.

Noticed the Tank Commander when activated and you are shooting still calls out tanks to shoot when they are already destroyed.

Something needs to be reworked with the Tigers throttle, as it is a real pain to get it to stop at 2600 rpm, or the engine overheats.

The sight on the Tiger needs to be tweaked, as the distance seems to have been cut in half. The commander yells out 600 yards, but you better have it on 300 or you will overshoot.

I would suggest that the reloading sounds be increased, as the loader when you are gunning is actually only 2 feet away from you throwing in a round in the 88.

And a wish-list for "Z"
1.) My tank camoed.
2.) Screeching and clattering of the treads(like in Saving Private Ryan)
3.) Tigers worked in pairs, start with 3 others if possible, with one on yer butt when hunting.

Thats all for now, Great mission ZeeWolf, keep 'em comming.

[Luftace]

Report moved to zw members fix thread.

[frinik]

Thanks for the input KDF very useful!

BTW I started a separate thread called ZW´s 6th Mission Update Fixes.We can use it to voice our experiences and reports.I pasted the same message on it.

Me too I would like to have company of other Tigers in a mission to have my flanks and rear protected.

Re the clattering of the tank caterpillar I also concur.In Steel Fury for example,every tank has its own specific sound(clicking of engine and treads) and it´s make the game more immersive.This what I discussed with ZW that Steel Fury compared to TvsToffers a much more " emotional " battlefield which modders have even made more catchy with Steel sounds collection mods and frontline accosutics.You have men screaming or shouting in both Russiana nd German, constant explosions, the rattling of machine guns, guns shootings, planes flying above or straffing you you really feel the intensity like you re in it.By comparison Tvs T is cold and sterile and does not give you that gripping feeling.It s like being in a silent movie. But my own feelings is that modders could perhaps work on that while ZW focusses on the core stuff.

The thing is ZW´s mods and work in progress and a giant undertaking.he is going to need our assistance and patience.He is a one-man team and as members our part is to help him along with useful criticism and feedback and also praise for the goood stuff.Which is what you did KDF(thanks) and so am I(at least trying to.

Others care to share their 2 cents worth?

[Friedrich-Wilhelm]

Hello All,

I agree with Frinik's comparison of Steel Fury and TvT in regard to immersion. TvT always was a bit more "sterile" than Steel Fury. Would it be possible, for example, to have crews bailing out of damaged tanks in TvT?
However, I think that ZW is doing great work for this game and I am looking forward to more of his work.
Sorry for beeing so dense, but how do I get to the zw members fix thread?

Regards,

FW

[KdF]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...99#post1253799

Ask and Thou shalt Recieve

[frinik]

Freidrich Wilhelm, the comparison I made between TvsT and SF does not detract in any way the Herculean and wonderful undertaking that ZW is doing.Obviosuly I believe in him and in his efforts otherwise I would not have paid to have the chance and privilege of being a member of his club.However we are discussign ways of making this game even better than it was and making it the best SIM on the market as ZW wishes to do.

Cheers

[Friedrich-Wilhelm]

Hello Frinik,

Thanks for your reply. What I wrote in my previous post was not meant as a demeaning comment on ZeeWolfs wonderful work. What I meant to say was that when comparing TvT and Steel Fury out-of-the-box, so to speak (without mods of any sort), I felt that Steel Fury was a bit livelier and more immersive. These are differences that were built into these games from the beginning, something that I don't think ZeeWolf had any influence on. I very much appreciate what he does for TvT and, like you, I paid my membership because I believe that with ZeeWolf's skill and perseverance, and with our support, TvT can go far beyond what was contained in the original release.

Cheers,

FW

[frinik]

FW it´s funny because we are saying the same thing and apologising while no apologies are needed.In my previous posts, I was the one reacting to your comment "
However, I think that ZW is doing great work for this game and I am looking forward to more of his work."

by saying that the comparison I made between SF and TvsT was not meant to diminish or criticise ZW ´s work on the contrary I definitely didnt think you were criticising ZW´s work nor was I. But like you I feel that Sfd offers that immersiveness and atmosphere that TvsT never had.But my hope is that talented modders(unfortunately I have no skills or abilities in that area) will flock to ZW´s new maps and improvements and like they are doing for Sf create new mods improving the sounds an other important details.In fact Monkwarrior and other did mod TsvT but for multi players.I installed their MMP3 and $ mods which improved the Tiger engine and gun soundfs , and tweaked the rate of reload for both Tiger and T34 as per historical data.ZW no matter how talented and dedicated he si cannot do everything by himself.

Question, is your game crashing with the latest update or is it working well other than the bugs described in the previosu posts?

Cheers

[Friedrich-Wilhelm]

Hi Frinik,

I'm sure glad we got that sorted out. I have MMP5 installed, even though I have never played TvT online. I did it because I wanted the new sounds and loading rates, but I did not make a clean backup when installing MMP5. Furthermore, I am running the German version of the game, because that's where I bought the CD. So far, apart from the considerable stutter in the first and last missions of the German campaign, the game runs fine. My graphics card is probably a bit dated (ATI Radeon X 600/550), perhaps explaining, at least in part, the low frame rates. When downloading ZW's members-only-file, I got a message about a virus being quarantined. Did you (or any of the other members reading this post) get that too?

Cheers,

FW

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by Friedrich-Wilhelm

Hi Frinik,

I'm sure glad we got that sorted out. I have MMP5 installed, even though I have never played TvT online. I did it because I wanted the new sounds and loading rates, but I did not make a clean backup when installing MMP5. Furthermore, I am running the German version of the game, because that's where I bought the CD. So far, apart from the considerable stutter in the first and last missions of the German campaign, the game runs fine. My graphics card is probably a bit dated (ATI Radeon X 600/550), perhaps explaining, at least in part, the low frame rates. When downloading ZW's members-only-file, I got a message about a virus being quarantined. Did you (or any of the other members reading this post) get that too?

Cheers,

FW

It's obvious you should do a virus scan. And my system is clean.

ZW

[frinik]

Friedrich lilhelm, like ZW I think you should scan your pc for malware or virus. The message may also have come from your Antivirus Program.

My wife complains that every time she tries to access U Torrent she gets a message from her Panda Antivirus telling her that a virus has been stopped.AVG antivirus also has a tendency to wrongly detect as virus new downloads or mods installs.You can always disable your antivirus when you do an install to avoid that problem and reactivate it once the install is finished.

TvsT is notorious for beign very demanding on a graphic card. On my wife's computer with a 256 mgs dedicated Nvidia 7000 the game runs slow.on my own computer with 512 dedicated ATI Radeon 3650 the game runs fine but I did experience low FPS at the beginning of ZW's new Kurtenski mission.So if your graphic card is less performant the low FPS are normal.

Re MMP5, ZW said to uninstall all mods as they are not compatible with his own.

Cheers

[trebby]

Hello ZW,

Congrats on all amazing work done and your epic undertaking!
Always seen TvT as Diamond in the rough, I never understood why so little was done to improve (save MMP) it by modders. (compared to SH series ect)

I stumbled on these threats only recently.
My question is, is it possible to join later/now? At this time the deadline to join has passed.

I am happy to pay $50 for an good TvT addon, but would like to see what I get.
Is there anyway to see what the membership brings in terms of goodies wich is also updated?

Good luck with polishing the Diamond!

Trebb.