Jungle Teawaffles on the Irrawaddy - Page 6

Raptor1 · 03-05-10, 08:41 AM

What's wrong with the Swordfish? Seems slow and sluggish enough...

Anyway, this isn't really a Swordfish campaign, just a string of missions (Which will probably include aircraft other than the Swordfish anyway) until I get decent sources for Malta or come up with something else.

Oberon · 03-05-10, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

@Oberon

I think you are the last person here who should complain about wrong markings.

BTW we aren't going to make a swordfish campaign, are we?
I mean that thing doesn't even have proper physics......so that wouldn't be much fun IMHO.

Well, it worked didn't it?

A bit dishonorable though, so if I had made it back to Akagi I probably would have been beheaded anyway

I think the Swordfish physics aren't too bad, although she doesn't stall particularly easy, which is admittedly a fault of the FM and is something that is found a lot in the new flyables, buuuuut, the Stringbag was quite maneuverable if you knew how to, I recall reading about a Swordfish pilot trying to evade a group of Stukas and virtually standing the aircraft on its tail and sliding sideways whilst the Stukas overshot.
Besides, if we want to ramp up the difficulty a bit we could put in the realistic torpedo and bomb operations mod so that we have to release at the right distance and right height for the torpedoes to have enough arming time. Furthermore, from what I've heard about the mission from Raptor, there's a good chance that our Stringbags will be scattered across the landscape before we even reach the target because of Archie.
So don't count on an easy victory just yet

Schroeder · 03-05-10, 12:34 PM

Are you guys serious?
The thing doesn't have any physics at all. After reaching take off speed you can pull the stick all the way back to it's max in a split second. No stall, no shaking, no feedback whatsoever. If you fly a plane too slow the lift creating airflow over the wings WILL rip off at some point (I've had to do it twice so far in my pilot training). First you get the shaking (That's when the airflow is close to rip of. It creates turbulences that hit the elevator and that's when you get the shaking "feedback" straight at your control stick. Should actually work with every plane.). If you get a bit slower the nose will drop without further warning as if someone had removed your wings in a split second (motorised planes might now tend to spin because of the engine torque and prop wash effects the airflow usually collapses at one wing faster than on the other) and there is nothing you can do with your elevator to stop it from doing so. After regaining speed the plane becomes controllable again.

The swordfish doesn't have any of the above mentioned characteristics.

It flies like playing in an ancient flight game but not as if playing a simulation.

Oberon · 03-05-10, 12:38 PM

Oh, I agree, like I said, there's absolutely no stall characteristics in her, I've tried and it's damn near impossible to stall her. However, if we compensate in other areas, such as realistic torpedoes and four tonnes of AAA (which I think Raptor has put in already) then we should still have a fair enough challenge.
I'm quite looking forward to it.

Speaking of the Swordfish, there's a number of MDF missions involving her IIRC on convoy protection and strike missions, but I'm darned if I can find them again, I'll have a butchers hook and see if I can dig them up again.

Raptor1 · 03-06-10, 12:27 PM

Hmm, true, didn't try flying it yet beyond a few seconds in QMB.

Schroeder · 03-08-10, 01:59 PM

I might not be there tonight. I'm going out again and I don't know when I will be back.

Task Force · 03-08-10, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

I might not be there tonight. I'm going out again and I don't know when I will be back.

Thats what UBIs drm said also.

Raptor1 · 03-08-10, 06:44 PM

Mein gott!

Oberon · 03-08-10, 06:48 PM

Ja....just....ja....

Oberon · 03-08-10, 06:57 PM

In 194X the Kriegsmarine launched their newest and deadliest weapon, the KMS UBER, it would take the valiant efforts of a group of misfits from the Fleet Air Arm to take her down...and enough firepower to sink the IJN Yamato...oh, and a rusty Sea Gladiator with a suicidal pilot.

Task Force takes a swim

If you look carefully, you can see three wrecked Swordfishes in this pic

The KMS UBERs CIWS strikes again

A successful hit! But the KMS UBER laughs in the face of torpedoes

...and 500lb bombs...

...and Swordfishes...

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE - *DEAD*

Oberon lines up for his Kamikaze attack whilst the standard Swordfishes are plucked from the sky

BANZAAAAAAAAAI!!! YATTAAAAAAAAA!!!

The KMS UBER sinks, although will most likely return...evil never dies....

Tally:

The KMS UBER ate:

17-18 Swordfishes
Approx 3 Sea Gladiators
5-6 torpedoes
4-5 500lb bombs
5-8 100lb bombs

Task Force · 03-08-10, 07:24 PM

That thing is... is... It just is...

Im starting to think it is actualy a submarine, and just dove... (Giveing reason to the torpedo circleing are carrier... lol)

Schroeder · 03-09-10, 07:22 AM

If the Peshkas were from hell then I really wonder what spawned this ship....

There is only one possible answer: Oleg!

That was a prime example of superior German engineering.

Be happy we never finished the Graf Zeppelin, be very happy!

Oberon · 03-09-10, 09:46 AM

If you had this thing you wouldn't have needed the Graf Zeppelin, Bismarck, Graf Spee, Tirpitz, Gneisenau, Lützow, Scheer, Scharnhorst, Prinz Eugen, Bayern, Baden, Sachsen, Württemberg, König, Großer Kurfürst, Markgraf, Kronprinz Wilhelm, Kaiser, Friedrich der Grosse, Kaiserin, König Albert, Prinzregent Luitpold, Nassau, Westfalen, Rheinland, Posen, Deutschland, Hannover, Pommern, Schleswig-Holstein, Schlesien, Braunschweig, Elsaß, Hessen, Preußen, Lothringen, Wittelsbach, Wettin, Zähringen, Schwaben, Mecklenburg, Kaiser Friedrich III, Kaiser Wilhelm II, Kaiser Wilhelm der Große, Kaiser Karl der Große, Kaiser Barbarossa, Kurfürst Friedrich Wilhelm, Brandenburg, Weißenburg, and Wörth!!!

This thing was a pocket-pocket battleship

Oh, and TF...that torpedo was mine

I dropped it on the way back to the carrier to land.

Raptor1 · 03-09-10, 12:00 PM

Apparently that thing was a M class Minesweeper (Or at least in disguise of one).

Whatever it was, one has to wonder why they didn't build more of them...

Oberon · 03-09-10, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Apparently that thing was a M class Minesweeper (Or at least in disguise of one).

Whatever it was, one has to wonder why they didn't build more of them...

That would just be overkill...

03-05-10, 08:41 AM	#76
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	What's wrong with the Swordfish? Seems slow and sluggish enough... Anyway, this isn't really a Swordfish campaign, just a string of missions (Which will probably include aircraft other than the Swordfish anyway) until I get decent sources for Malta or come up with something else. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

03-05-10, 12:34 PM	#78
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Are you guys serious? The thing doesn't have any physics at all. After reaching take off speed you can pull the stick all the way back to it's max in a split second. No stall, no shaking, no feedback whatsoever. If you fly a plane too slow the lift creating airflow over the wings WILL rip off at some point (I've had to do it twice so far in my pilot training). First you get the shaking (That's when the airflow is close to rip of. It creates turbulences that hit the elevator and that's when you get the shaking "feedback" straight at your control stick. Should actually work with every plane.). If you get a bit slower the nose will drop without further warning as if someone had removed your wings in a split second (motorised planes might now tend to spin because of the engine torque and prop wash effects the airflow usually collapses at one wing faster than on the other) and there is nothing you can do with your elevator to stop it from doing so. After regaining speed the plane becomes controllable again. The swordfish doesn't have any of the above mentioned characteristics. It flies like playing in an ancient flight game but not as if playing a simulation. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

03-06-10, 12:27 PM	#80
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Hmm, true, didn't try flying it yet beyond a few seconds in QMB. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

03-08-10, 01:59 PM	#81
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	I might not be there tonight. I'm going out again and I don't know when I will be back. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

03-08-10, 06:44 PM	#83
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Mein gott! __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

03-05-10, 12:38 PM	#79
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Oh, I agree, like I said, there's absolutely no stall characteristics in her, I've tried and it's damn near impossible to stall her. However, if we compensate in other areas, such as realistic torpedoes and four tonnes of AAA (which I think Raptor has put in already) then we should still have a fair enough challenge. I'm quite looking forward to it. Speaking of the Swordfish, there's a number of MDF missions involving her IIRC on convoy protection and strike missions, but I'm darned if I can find them again, I'll have a butchers hook and see if I can dig them up again.

03-08-10, 06:48 PM	#84
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Ja....just....ja....

03-08-10, 06:57 PM	#85
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	In 194X the Kriegsmarine launched their newest and deadliest weapon, the KMS UBER, it would take the valiant efforts of a group of misfits from the Fleet Air Arm to take her down...and enough firepower to sink the IJN Yamato...oh, and a rusty Sea Gladiator with a suicidal pilot. Task Force takes a swim If you look carefully, you can see three wrecked Swordfishes in this pic The KMS UBERs CIWS strikes again A successful hit! But the KMS UBER laughs in the face of torpedoes ...and 500lb bombs... ...and Swordfishes... DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE - DEAD Oberon lines up for his Kamikaze attack whilst the standard Swordfishes are plucked from the sky BANZAAAAAAAAAI!!! YATTAAAAAAAAA!!! The KMS UBER sinks, although will most likely return...evil never dies.... Tally: The KMS UBER ate: 17-18 Swordfishes Approx 3 Sea Gladiators 5-6 torpedoes 4-5 500lb bombs 5-8 100lb bombs

03-08-10, 07:24 PM	#86
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	That thing is... is... It just is... Im starting to think it is actualy a submarine, and just dove... (Giveing reason to the torpedo circleing are carrier... lol) __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

03-09-10, 07:22 AM	#87
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	If the Peshkas were from hell then I really wonder what spawned this ship.... There is only one possible answer: Oleg! That was a prime example of superior German engineering. Be happy we never finished the Graf Zeppelin, be very happy! __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

03-09-10, 09:46 AM	#88
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	If you had this thing you wouldn't have *needed* the Graf Zeppelin, Bismarck, Graf Spee, Tirpitz, Gneisenau, Lützow, Scheer, Scharnhorst, Prinz Eugen, Bayern, Baden, Sachsen, Württemberg, König, Großer Kurfürst, Markgraf, Kronprinz Wilhelm, Kaiser, Friedrich der Grosse, Kaiserin, König Albert, Prinzregent Luitpold, Nassau, Westfalen, Rheinland, Posen, Deutschland, Hannover, Pommern, Schleswig-Holstein, Schlesien, Braunschweig, Elsaß, Hessen, Preußen, Lothringen, Wittelsbach, Wettin, Zähringen, Schwaben, Mecklenburg, Kaiser Friedrich III, Kaiser Wilhelm II, Kaiser Wilhelm der Große, Kaiser Karl der Große, Kaiser Barbarossa, Kurfürst Friedrich Wilhelm, Brandenburg, Weißenburg, and Wörth!!! This thing was a pocket-pocket battleship Oh, and TF...that torpedo was mine I dropped it on the way back to the carrier to land.

03-09-10, 12:00 PM	#89
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Apparently that thing was a M class Minesweeper (Or at least in disguise of one). Whatever it was, one has to wonder why they didn't build more of them... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory