"Torpedo has acquired!" - Page 2

jadervason · 03-04-17, 11:29 PM

Every seen DS9 S4E7 "Starship Down?"

SISKO: Mister Worf?
WORF: Sir.
SISKO: What's the status of our weapons systems?
WORF: The cloak is not effective in this atmosphere, and the interference will jam our torpedo guidance systems.
SISKO: What about phasers?
WORF: We'll have to target them manually.
DAX: Benjamin, we have an idea.
KIRA: It's a little trick I learned during the occupation. Sometimes we'd evade the Cardassian ships by hiding in the Badlands. Sensor range was limited, so we learned to use an old active-scan system to navigate.
DAX: It works by echo-location. We send out a modulated tetryon pulse, and if it reflects off the hull of a ship we can approximate its location.
SISKO: But won't these pulses give away our position as well?
KIRA: We'd have to alter course and speed after every one.
(Sisko gives the nod.)

Onkel Neal · 04-03-17, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tAKticool47

I just wanted to bump my own post up because it was the best post ever.

Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

Yes it was, could someone nominate it? Nips, wink wink

04-03-17, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Yes it was, could someone nominate it? Nips, wink wink

While the post was entertaining and detailed, I don't consider it "post if the year" material to be honest.
To me, that would be a post with an important political or social message, something that "matters", that inspires, that moves people.
Quoting an action movie scene, even if so entertaining, really doesn't cut it for me.

Hope tactikool doesn't get me wrong here...

Onkel Neal · 04-05-17, 11:43 AM

Hmmm....so that's how it is, eh?

How about funny post of the year? That would fit, wouldn't it?

04-05-17, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Hmmm....so that's how it is, eh?

How about funny post of the year? That would fit, wouldn't it?

...as long as I win again in the end, defending my title, sure!

Onkel Neal · 04-05-17, 06:52 PM

Yay, we all win

jadervason · 06-01-17, 03:26 PM

No respect, I get no respect...

06-01-17, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadervason

No respect, I get no respect...

Anyways, I think I found the answer to my original question.
Playing Fast Attack, I noticed that my crew does report when one of my torpedoes acquired a target. Besides that, the torpedo does send data back like RTE and TTI, as I expected from modern weapons.
While this is no guarantee that it is exactly like this, or at all, in RL, I do trust FA in these terms, as the lead designer was a 688 skipper and the game is full of little details like that.

jadervason · 06-02-17, 05:09 PM

Why did you quote me?

Fast Attack, is that a dangerous waters mod?

Nexus7 · 06-03-17, 10:39 AM

I suspect that an exaustive answer to your question, NS, would lead to the area of classified infiormation, because this "issue" has been raised many years ago when DW was fresh on the stores and I don't remember any kind of confirmation or the countrary.

However, the features you address sounds extremely probable to be inplemented in RL somehow. I mean, assuming a very tight battle situation a weapons operator needs to use every fraction of second and all possible (reliable and non) tools, but this is solely speculation of mine already.

I belive a torpedo sends back enough information to elaborate for example
- torpedo has aquired
- distance torpedo to target (he captures his own ping response therefore...)
- actual torpedo approx depth

banryu79 · 06-08-17, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadervason

Why did you quote me?

Fast Attack, is that a dangerous waters mod?

No, it's an old subsim from Sierra...
http://www.subsim.com/ssr/fastattack.html

shipkiller1 · 06-19-17, 06:10 PM

In real life, the sonar operators (not the dumb ass sonar officer) cannot aurally hear active on MK48's. In the case of the MK48 ADCAP, and to a certain extent the baseline MK48's, you really cannot even hear the torpedo running after time of fire. The self radiated noise levels are too low.

The MK48's automatically send back information to the weapons control operator, IF the wire is good.

The guidance wires in the game break WAY too often...

06-19-17, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shipkiller1

The MK48's automatically send back information to the weapons control operator, IF the wire is good.

I heard that was introduced with ADCAP, is that true?

shipkiller1 · 06-19-17, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

I heard that was introduced with ADCAP, is that true?

No.

It was in the early analog MK-48's also... each new mod had more capabilities..

06-20-17, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shipkiller1

No.

It was in the early analog MK-48's also... each new mod had more capabilities..

That is what I expected, actually.
As I said earlier, it wouldn't make sense, a wire-guided, sophisticated torpedo that does not send back data to ownship? Too unlikely.

04-05-17, 11:43 AM	#19
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,284 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Hmmm....so that's how it is, eh? How about funny post of the year? That would fit, wouldn't it? __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

04-05-17, 06:52 PM	#21
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,284 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Yay, we all win __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

06-03-17, 10:39 AM	#25
Nexus7 Commander Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 469 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I suspect that an exaustive answer to your question, NS, would lead to the area of classified infiormation, because this "issue" has been raised many years ago when DW was fresh on the stores and I don't remember any kind of confirmation or the countrary. However, the features you address sounds extremely probable to be inplemented in RL somehow. I mean, assuming a very tight battle situation a weapons operator needs to use every fraction of second and all possible (reliable and non) tools, but this is solely speculation of mine already. I belive a torpedo sends back enough information to elaborate for example - torpedo has aquired - distance torpedo to target (he captures his own ping response therefore...) - actual torpedo approx depth __________________ If you are going through hell... keep going (Winston Churchill)

03-04-17, 11:29 PM	#16
jadervason Bosun Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 69 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Every seen DS9 S4E7 "Starship Down?" SISKO: Mister Worf? WORF: Sir. SISKO: What's the status of our weapons systems? WORF: The cloak is not effective in this atmosphere, and the interference will jam our torpedo guidance systems. SISKO: What about phasers? WORF: We'll have to target them manually. DAX: Benjamin, we have an idea. KIRA: It's a little trick I learned during the occupation. Sometimes we'd evade the Cardassian ships by hiding in the Badlands. Sensor range was limited, so we learned to use an old active-scan system to navigate. DAX: It works by echo-location. We send out a modulated tetryon pulse, and if it reflects off the hull of a ship we can approximate its location. SISKO: But won't these pulses give away our position as well? KIRA: We'd have to alter course and speed after every one. (Sisko gives the nod.)

06-01-17, 03:26 PM	#22
jadervason Bosun Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 69 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	No respect, I get no respect...

06-02-17, 05:09 PM	#24
jadervason Bosun Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 69 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Why did you quote me? Fast Attack, is that a dangerous waters mod?

06-19-17, 06:10 PM	#27
shipkiller1 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 136 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	In real life, the sonar operators (not the dumb ass sonar officer) cannot aurally hear active on MK48's. In the case of the MK48 ADCAP, and to a certain extent the baseline MK48's, you really cannot even hear the torpedo running after time of fire. The self radiated noise levels are too low. The MK48's automatically send back information to the weapons control operator, IF the wire is good. The guidance wires in the game break WAY too often...