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Old 05-22-19, 05:19 AM   #9976
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My main concern atm is that having made a pigs ear out of the whole sorry situation this could well eventually culminate into a general election resulting in something far more catastrophic than Brexit, namely a victory for Steptoe and the loony left.

She'll lose this fourth attempt then either walk or the 1922 folk will invoke a party rule change for an imediate leadership challenge.

It could all be too late by then, Heaven help us.
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Old 05-22-19, 06:18 AM   #9977
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OH SHUT UP WOMAN!

Old Jezzer is laying in to MayPanic and she keeps banging on about the last Labour government, well over seven years ago! She has failed she had no counter statement she must go now.

PMQ's is a joke.
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Old 05-22-19, 06:38 AM   #9978
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PMQ's LIVE

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Old 05-23-19, 03:45 AM   #9979
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Rumor has it that PM May will step down in just a few more days ...

Hard to link on my hand held device, but is this good?

How can a new PM bring a better deal to the table?
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Old 05-23-19, 04:06 AM   #9980
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^ A new PM cannot. Which is why Farage and his "brexit party" (lmao) will win. He (alone, no democracy here) will get out without a deal. Since there are no plans or visions for beyond he will then fail, but it will be too late.

Maybe the UK manages to tear down the EU with its 72 ministers and Farage trying to obliterate all just for the fun of it, trying to divide while bringing hate, xenophobia and nationalism to the EU parliament. Romania, Turkey, Hungary and Poland can then be happy, to a degree. But not for long.

The EU may have flaws, but what we see here is absolutely ridiculous.


"Just as Marxists insist true communism has never been tried, so Brexiteers declare that their simple plan has been wrecked by weaklings, quislings and fools. Brexit was designed by its most passionate supporters to fail: its purpose was to be betrayed, to enable a new movement to rise up, animated by fury and fear. Such a movement has now been born. It is already tearing the Conservative party to pieces. That, sad to say, is only the beginning of its plan."
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Old 05-23-19, 04:27 AM   #9981
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To think of what chance there would have been, with more spirit and determination and less care for EU blackmailing - and what has come of it instead, due to servility, cowardice and indifference for too long.



At least we get well entertained.


I fear for the ECB and EU presidencies having names seating that still refuse to learn the lesson and will push the EU even further towards centralism and super state.



And I fear Merkel going out - but not going really for sure. Her indications that she wants to "work for climate" after her term sounds like a menacing threat to me.
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Old 05-23-19, 05:00 AM   #9982
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If Boris wins the leadership he will let labour in at the next general election because he will arse up as PM.

BREAKING NEWS IF MAY WILL NOT STATE BY FRIDAY THE DAY OF HER DEPARTURE THERE WILL BE ANOTHER VOTE ON HER LEADERSHIP.
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Old 05-23-19, 05:05 AM   #9983
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Rumor has it that PM May will step down in just a few more days ...

Hard to link on my hand held device, but is this good?

How can a new PM bring a better deal to the table?
She should be gone in a day or two yes but if not, almost definitely after the results of the EU elections are announced.

Her epitaph will make worse reading than that of David Cameron and that is quite some achievement imho. One of abject failure and betrayal of the people of the UK.

The next PM will inherit the same problems and I fear the only way forward now will be to hold a general election and possibly a revocation of Article 50.
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You all speak a good lot about betrayal (echoing Farage), but betrayal has come from another side, and the result is intended.
Beware the great betrayal myth

again:

"Brexiteers declare that their simple plan has been wrecked by weaklings, quislings and fools. Brexit was designed by its most passionate supporters to fail:
its purpose was to be betrayed, to enable a new movement to rise up, animated by fury and fear.
Such a movement has now been born. It is already tearing the Conservative party to pieces. That, sad to say, is only the beginning of its plan."

Good article, because just how i see it :
Farage has polluted our democracy. Vote against him.
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Old 05-23-19, 05:06 AM   #9985
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^ A new PM cannot. Which is why Farage and his "brexit party" (lmao) will win. He (alone, no democracy here) will get out without a deal. Since there are no plans or visions for beyond he will then fail, but it will be too late.

Maybe the UK manages to tear down the EU with its 72 ministers and Farage trying to obliterate all just for the fun of it, trying to divide while bringing hate, xenophobia and nationalism to the EU parliament. Romania, Turkey, Hungary and Poland can then be happy, to a degree. But not for long.

The EU may have flaws, but what we see here is absolutely ridiculous.


"Just as Marxists insist true communism has never been tried, so Brexiteers declare that their simple plan has been wrecked by weaklings, quislings and fools. Brexit was designed by its most passionate supporters to fail: its purpose was to be betrayed, to enable a new movement to rise up, animated by fury and fear. Such a movement has now been born. It is already tearing the Conservative party to pieces. That, sad to say, is only the beginning of its plan."
Pretty much agree
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MORE BREAKING NEWS THERE WILL BE NO FOURTH VOTE ON THE WITHDRAW BILL...SKY NEWS.
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Quote:
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BREAKING NEWS IF MAY WILL NOT STATE BY FRIDAY THE DAY OF HER DEPARTURE THERE WILL BE ANOTHER VOTE ON HER LEADERSHIP.
Not quite accurate.

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On Wednesday, members of the Conservatives' backbench 1922 Committee held a secret ballot on whether to change party rules, to allow the prime minister to face a vote of no confidence immediately.

The results, in sealed envelopes, will be opened if Mrs May does not agree to stand down by 10 June.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48374841
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It was reported by Sky news jim.
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I've more faith in the BBC and my political contact.
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Just back from voting with the wife, should sleep a little sounder tonight
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