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Old 05-25-06, 09:37 AM   #31
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Default Re: The Hunt: An ilustrated example of how to sink a ship

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<Edit: PDF version here - Gizzmoe>

First of all, let me start by saying that I didn't reinvent the wheel or claim that I did. All of what you will find here can be found on other posts (and only one of them was done by me)

To learn more, go here:

http://www.paulwasserman.net/SHIII/
http://www.communitymanuals.com/shii...itle=Main_Page
Hi: I'm sorry that I have to do it this way, but I find trying to use the tools very confusing to me. I copied your steps and pictures and have read it over and over this morning, and it is still confusing to me as my mind doesn't work that well. Because of that, I have to try and plan my intercepts using pencil and paper. Here is my situation and I really want to try your steps, using the tools.



Darm, I come across two merchants on the way, sunk them, so now my time is off and so is my intercept time and spot.
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Old 06-03-06, 06:54 PM   #32
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Hi: I'm sorry that I have to do it this way, but I find trying to use the tools very confusing to me.
I agree that the game's manual barely covers the use of navmap tools... but what exactly are you having trouble with? The math involved? or the actual click click involved in the tool's use?
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Old 06-10-06, 03:12 AM   #33
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Thanks for an awesome guide Dantenoc!!
Really helps n00bs out like me.

I was wondering if you would your approach change if the ship/convoy was escorted?
Are you able to also give an example of what to do after you fired on an escorted convoy, ie how to evade detection after firing.

Thanks again
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Old 06-10-06, 06:51 AM   #34
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Thanks for an awesome guide Dantenoc!!
Really helps n00bs out like me.

I was wondering if you would your approach change if the ship/convoy was escorted?
Are you able to also give an example of what to do after you fired on an escorted convoy, ie how to evade detection after firing.

Thanks again
Intercepting a convoy is even easier, since you'll generaly receive better radio messages about their whereabouts (you'll get their exact speed, for example).

However, I don't really put that much effort into intercepting convoys, since I prefer to hunt stray merchants... the main reason for this is to avoid escorts. It seems that most of the times (lets say 9 out of 10) one can evade the enemy escorts quite easily, and then the next time it suddenly turns fatal ... rarely is it worth the risk.

As to tips into how to evade and escape enemy escorts: Again, my advice is "Why evade when you can avoid?" attack the unprotected, you'll live longer
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Old 06-23-06, 07:52 AM   #35
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Great tutorial, thanks a lot!

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Some people get confused and think that the aid is upside down
The course-plotting aid (I think) is upside-down, too. It specifically shows "N" as South and vice-versa. Is that, too, supposed to be that way for whatever odd reason? Should've been possible to turn them around, you can in reality, you know:p.
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Old 06-23-06, 11:09 AM   #36
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When you use it the line behind the cursor drags over the appropriate degree for the course. If it was 'right-side up' the line would show the degrees for the opposite course.
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Old 06-23-06, 10:48 PM   #37
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bravo!

Why stop with almost 100% realism? Turn off the navmap updates, easy to plot the target track manually if you can do the torpedo computations Just mark the bearing and range, use the AOB to get a rough course, then repeat every 3 minutes, soon you will have a decent track on the map. I find it interesting when the target is zig-zagging, you can get in position submerged and await his last zig onto your intercept point.
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Old 06-24-06, 10:21 AM   #38
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Why stop with almost 100% realism? Turn off the navmap updates, easy to plot the target track manually if you can do the torpedo computations
You're not the only one to think so.

Lowest realism setting regarding TDC: Fully automated.
Medium: Notepad (in in Silent Hunter 3).*
Highest: Completely manual, as in this thread's example.*

*Option to set WO officer's assistance to Off, Instant, or Delay. On instant, he gets the data instantly, as in Silent Hunter 3. On Delay, it takes him a realistic amount of time.
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Old 06-24-06, 10:23 AM   #39
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*Option to set WO officer's assistance to Off, Instant, or Delay. On instant, he gets the data instantly, as in Silent Hunter 3. On Delay, it takes him a realistic amount of time.
AND, he's not always accurate. Sounds great to me.
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Old 06-25-06, 12:09 AM   #40
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Good job m8. I'm new to this game and so far I found this forum very helpfull.I have to say ,it's not easy game if you prepare to play it realysticly but is so much fun .Post's like this are great for noobs like me
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Old 07-16-06, 06:26 PM   #41
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I have created shortcut version of the plotting intercept part of this post. I use this frequently and it gets you an intercept quickly. I find the instructions in the post a little cumbersome to follow and wanted a quick reference.



(EDIT: Replaced broken photo from defunct web site! Edit2: remove wishy washy questions, since I have proved this works to myself.)
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Old 07-16-06, 09:20 PM   #42
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After reading all this I feel a bit frustrated. I just got all the mods I wanted installed and it runs fine. Last night I printed out Wazzo's guide and then this! GREAT! Now I have something MORE to learn! However it's a good kind of frustrated. All this info mixed with GW will make it a brand new game for me. Yippy Cayay!

EDIT. I just copied the Nav chart to a text file. Is there a similar one which explains what slow, medium and fast are?

EDIT. Okay reading through the guide more closely I'm a bit confused. In step 4 it tells me to "draw a circle, centered at the end of the ruler measurement you did in step 3..." However the picture shows it placing the centre of the circle on a line drawn by the compass but it doesn't look to be at the end of the line drawn by the ruler. So I'm confused how you determine exactly where to place the circle. Am I just missing something?
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Old 07-17-06, 07:06 PM   #43
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EDIT. Okay reading through the guide more closely I'm a bit confused. In step 4 it tells me to "draw a circle, centered at the end of the ruler measurement you did in step 3..." However the picture shows it placing the centre of the circle on a line drawn by the compass but it doesn't look to be at the end of the line drawn by the ruler. So I'm confused how you determine exactly where to place the circle. Am I just missing something?
The circle's center IS located at the end of the measurement done with the ruler on step three. Perhaps you're thrown off by the fact that that line was drawn on top of the protractor line done on step two.... which is longer... and so the circle's center is drawn on a point which is NOT at the end of the protractor leg drawn on step two, but IS at the end of the ruler line drawn on step three.

Also, bear in mind that the navmap is zoomed in to different scales on the various pictures

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Old 07-18-06, 03:36 PM   #44
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Darksun, I appreciate your condensed version! I'll have to try it. I was also just a bit confused from the initial (but WAY Excellent) tutorial by dantenoc.

Thanks guys, it's folks like you that greatly enhance the experience from the vanilla offerings of the software gaming companies.

Not to mention MEGA kudo's to you talented mod guys...

Is this a great site, or what??
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Old 07-18-06, 04:30 PM   #45
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Darksun, I appreciate your condensed version! I'll have to try it. I was also just a bit confused from the initial (but WAY Excellent) tutorial by dantenoc.

Thanks guys, it's folks like you that greatly enhance the experience from the vanilla offerings of the software gaming companies.

Not to mention MEGA kudo's to you talented mod guys...

Is this a great site, or what??
Please let me know if I got it right. I keep missing intercepts, but I think it's because the convoys change headings every 100 kilometers or so.
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