Another fatal police shootin

[Jeff-Groves]

I agree with the 'Looters will be shot on sight' thing.

[Armistead]

I have a good black friend, he basically says blacks know better to go into white neighborhoods and business areas, says the govt would go to shooting along with white business folks if blacks came rioting and looting through the rich country club area....

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Armistead

I have a good black friend, he basically says blacks know better to go into white neighborhoods and business areas, says the govt would go to shooting along with white business folks if blacks came rioting and looting through the rich country club area....

During the LA riot, a lot of the business owners armed themselves since the LAPD was very, very slow to react when the riot started. Here in Hollywood, I saw men on the roof of one of the Scientology-owned buildings (there are several here) toting assault rifles. A pawnshop owner up the street from my home had spray painted this own the metal security door the warning "Owner Inside With Shotgun - Come In If You Dare". No one tried...


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[Jeff-Groves]

So I guess that means they are good with looting each other?

Sad state of affairs.

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I agree with the 'Looters will be shot on sight' thing.

While I think these looters are scum and punishment for that should be severe, KILLING them is simply in direct contradiction to the values of any advanced civilization.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Armistead

I have a good black friend, he basically says blacks know better to go into white neighborhoods and business areas, says the govt would go to shooting along with white business folks if blacks came rioting and looting through the rich country club area....

I'm pretty sure that goes for white looters as well.

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

While I think these looters are scum and punishment for that should be severe, KILLING them is simply in direct contradiction to the values of any advanced civilization.

Don't expect everyone to agree with that.

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Don't expect everyone to agree with that.

I sure don't.
Opinions...

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

While I think these looters are scum and punishment for that should be severe, KILLING them is simply in direct contradiction to the values of any advanced civilization.

I never said KILL them. I said shoot them.
A leg wound and a cop at the ER to gather them up for jail works for me.

My home was invaded and my Step-son and his friend sent to hospitals.
I was in Hawaii at the time. Had I been home?
There would have been bodies sent to the morgue. Not the hospital.

So yes. I have no problem with protecting ones health or property from criminals.

[Aktungbby]

[QUOTE=Nippelspanner;2311166]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I never said KILL them. I said shoot them.
A leg wound and a cop at the ER to gather them up for jail works for me.

My home was invaded and my Step-son and his friend sent to hospitals.
I was in Hawaii at the time. Had I been home?
There would have been bodies sent to the morgue. Not the hospital.

So yes. I have no problem with protecting ones health or property from criminals.

We know who's in charge when you're on the road!!

[Jeff-Groves]

Nancy and I both were on Maui at the time.
But ya. She'll kill invaders just fine if I'm not home.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Nancy and I both were on Maui at the time.
But ya. She'll kill invaders just fine if I'm not home.

Be kind enough to inform Nancy I've discarded my idea of making a surprise visit

[Aktungbby]

Just to bring it back on thread a little, Some interesting points pertaining to the deceased gentleman, Mr Gray, in Baltimore who "made eye-contact and then fled." Essentially, anyone can walk away from a peace officer "and if you may walk...you have the right to increase speed ie: run too"...in theory. http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Evading-Arrest-on-Foot.htm http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Evading-Arrest-on-Foot.htm Fleeing from police is not, by itself, illegal in America, and the U.S. Supreme Court has made clear that in safe neighborhoods, people not suspected of criminal activity can ignore a police officer who approaches them, even to the point of walking away.
But courts have set a different standard for places where street crime is common, ruling that police can chase, stop and frisk people if their location contributes to a suspicion of criminal activity.
This double standard is having a major impact as more black men die in encounters with police around the country. Many have been shot or tackled while trying to flee. The court rulings justifying police chases in high-crime areas where many African-Americans live are contributing to a dangerous divide between police and citizens, said Ezekiel Edwards, director of the Criminal Law Reform Project at the American Civil Liberties Union.
"Folks who are going to be the most intimidated or scared of the police are the same people in places where the Supreme Court has said, 'if you run from police, that's suspicion,'" he said.
Edwards is among the legal experts who say unprovoked flight, on its own, shouldn't justify a chase: "If you can walk away, you can run away. It shouldn't matter the speed at which you move away."
There are limits to this leeway: The Supreme Court and lower courts have repeatedly required police to have some justification for stopping or questioning someone in a public place. But several legal experts say that because he was standing in a drug-infested area, Gray's decision to bolt on April 12 may have justified the decision by four bicycle-riding officers to pursue and detain him. and break his neck and leg on an over-long route to the station?.(he looks tolerably ok, still upright,in this shot?!!)

[Von Tonner]

The silence is deafening.

A police officer gunned downed in Queens. Not the first by a long chalk.

"Officials said the incident was the fifth shooting of a New York police officer in as many months, and New York Mayor Bill de Blasio called it “a reminder of the dangers all of our officers face every single day”.



Here is a guy who has a distinguished record as a police officer, born into a family that has served the community as police officers over generations - and is now fighting for his life life after been shot in the head by a bloody low life.

And one wonders why police officers tend to shoot first and ask questions later.

But hey, you know what, no towns, cities, suburbs, stores etc will be looted or burnt as his family come to terms with this incident.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10221896.html

[Rockstar]

The silence is quite deafening. So lets not forget the trigger happy boys in blue during the search for Christopher Dorner, shooting two ladies delivering news papers and those others just going about their daily routine who got a bullet.

Then there's the NYP shooting when cops shot and wounded everyone BUT the suspect.

I dont know how to put this, cops do have my support but they need to clean up their 'asterisk, asterisk, asterisk, asterisk-ing' act real quick. To me the line between some cops and crimminals are at best somewhat blurred. Departments need to do a little house cleaning.

[Von Tonner]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

To me the line between some cops and crimminals are at best somewhat blurred. Departments need to do a little house cleaning.

I agree with you. No argument there from me. I am not at all saying ALL the men in blue butter would not melt in their mouth. What I am saying is that by FAR the majority of the men/woman in blue have families who pray that they come home after a shift safe and sound. And if one of them, with his or her family in the back of their mind should happen on a suspect who does NOT obey a lawful command from them to either stop, lie down, raise your hands, etc but continues to either flee, pose a threat, or whatever - sorry, but my benefit of the doubt wieghs so heavily in their favour should they do what they are tasked to do.