(NYGM) IXD2 keeps slowly sinking.

Daughter of 84 · 09-22-2012, 04:33 PM

Hello all.

I'm use to playing GWX, but I read so many great things about NYGM that I had to give it a try!

However, in NYGM my IDX2 boat, at slower speeds, slowly sinks. When I increase speed to full or flank speed, then the boat will rise to whatever meter I designate. I'm just curious if this behavior is normal is all. I can adapt to it no problem.

Vendor · 09-22-2012, 04:44 PM

Well, I use GWX .... so on NYGM I can not answer for, but it does not sound unlikely

Sailor Steve · 09-22-2012, 06:20 PM

WELCOME ABOARD!

In NYGM all boats will start to sink at very slow speeds. This is because it was very difficult to get perfect balance, so the boats couldn't actually 'hover' like they can in the stock game. They had to be moving fast enough for the dive planes to work. It's a delicate balance - too fast and you're noisy, too slow and you sink. Or rise. Bad news either way.

Daughter of 84 · 09-22-2012, 07:51 PM

That's interesting to know. I always thought that u-boats could move air around to achieve balance so they could hover.

Thanks for the answer!

Sailor Steve · 09-22-2012, 08:19 PM

Modern submariners pride themselves on being able to do that, but they have computer controls to help. A WW2 submarine might be able to do it given enough time, but they would actually have to pump water back and forth between trim tanks, and that itself creates more noise than running at three or four knots does. It's a tough call.

Back in the days of Aces Of The Deep you could only stay at silent running for so long before your LI said "Unable to maintain depth without running pumps!" That game is now considered primitive, but it had some AI routines that still haven't been matched.

Also, by your screen name I guess you're female? If so, and if you want, the site's owner will give you a custom avatar, or you can send him one he'll put up for you, plus a title. It cost's us guys, but the gals get one for free.

U-SERB · 09-23-2012, 02:34 PM

Also, if you have enough time and will I strongly recommend you to read manual from NYGM.

There is pretty good explain reasons for that and other things in the game with that mod.

09-22-2012, 04:33 PM	#1
Daughter of 84 Bilge Rat Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 4 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	(NYGM) IXD2 keeps slowly sinking. Hello all. I'm use to playing GWX, but I read so many great things about NYGM that I had to give it a try! However, in NYGM my IDX2 boat, at slower speeds, slowly sinks. When I increase speed to full or flank speed, then the boat will rise to whatever meter I designate. I'm just curious if this behavior is normal is all. I can adapt to it no problem.

09-22-2012, 04:44 PM	#2
Vendor SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sweden,moving in a southerly direction. Posts: 20,640 Downloads: 504 Uploads: 0	Welcome to SubSim Daughter of 84! Well, I use GWX .... so on NYGM I can not answer for, but it does not sound unlikely __________________ "Nothing in life is to be feared.It is only to be understood" Marie Curie

09-22-2012, 06:20 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Just A Kid At Heart Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 600 miles from the nearest ocean. Posts: 44,846 Downloads: 406 Uploads: 227	WELCOME ABOARD! In NYGM all boats will start to sink at very slow speeds. This is because it was very difficult to get perfect balance, so the boats couldn't actually 'hover' like they can in the stock game. They had to be moving fast enough for the dive planes to work. It's a delicate balance - too fast and you're noisy, too slow and you sink. Or rise. Bad news either way. __________________ "Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right." – Laurens van der Post

09-22-2012, 08:19 PM	#5
Sailor Steve Just A Kid At Heart Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 600 miles from the nearest ocean. Posts: 44,846 Downloads: 406 Uploads: 227	Modern submariners pride themselves on being able to do that, but they have computer controls to help. A WW2 submarine might be able to do it given enough time, but they would actually have to pump water back and forth between trim tanks, and that itself creates more noise than running at three or four knots does. It's a tough call. Back in the days of Aces Of The Deep you could only stay at silent running for so long before your LI said "Unable to maintain depth without running pumps!" That game is now considered primitive, but it had some AI routines that still haven't been matched. Also, by your screen name I guess you're female? If so, and if you want, the site's owner will give you a custom avatar, or you can send him one he'll put up for you, plus a title. It cost's us guys, but the gals get one for free. __________________ "Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right." – Laurens van der Post

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09-22-2012, 07:51 PM	#4
Daughter of 84 Bilge Rat Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 4 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	That's interesting to know. I always thought that u-boats could move air around to achieve balance so they could hover. Thanks for the answer!

09-23-2012, 02:34 PM	#6
U-SERB Mate Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Serbia Posts: 51 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Also, if you have enough time and will I strongly recommend you to read manual from NYGM. There is pretty good explain reasons for that and other things in the game with that mod.