Thresher and November, anyone? (Subsim for 50s-60s)

ioncore · 12-03-09, 04:04 AM

Hi guys,

Just a small question. While it is quite understandable why WWII, modern times and WWI (in this exact order) do occupy the top charts of all the subsims, I'm pretty sure that there are fans of the early Cold War era: the era of zounds of diezel submarines, the era of USS Nautilus and innovative Threshers, the era of Soviet nuclear fleet buildup and carrier-killer cruise missiles (oh and don't ever forget about Badgers, and of course Bear-C/Kresta/Echo II integral missile guidance system), the mix of aging and dying WWII tactics and completely new doctrines.
Why there always were so little interest for that era? Were there ever attempts to create any mod for 50s-60s (+ early 70s) for any existing commercial subsim? Or were there any indies/open source sims for that era? Being a C++/Linux programmer myself, it seems to me that the powerful dangerdeep (God bless its creators

) is an excellent starter platform for such a sort of "modding" experiments, especially due to the amazing technical level of that project and its open sources.

Cheers

Bartolomeus · 12-08-09, 04:52 AM

Iam very interested in the Cold War era. I build different models of the Cold War era. Here is my website.

It would be nice to have a Cold War sim with good graphics like Silent Hunter.

Deamon · 02-22-10, 10:26 AM

And i concur with that! I always had great interest in the cold war era and in-fact there are 2 projects dealing with this already.

zakarpatska · 03-01-10, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Deamon

And i concur with that! I always had great interest in the cold war era and in-fact there are 2 projects dealing with this already.

And the projects are ...?

krashkart · 03-01-10, 10:54 PM

Personally, I would like to see a sim like this. Doubt anyone ever thought of it till this post came up. *shrug* I haven't seen anything pertaining to the Cold War excpet perhaps Strike Fighters, which is an ACM. I won't posit any theories here yet. But who knows?

Hitman · 03-06-10, 03:52 AM

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And the projects are ...?

Look in the sticky thread about indie projects at the top of this forum

goldorak · 03-12-10, 06:51 AM

While waiting for ComSubSim I'd say to give Dangerous Waters with the DWX mod installed a spin.
Although its not strictly pure cold war, it has Sturgeon subs, Alfa subs, Victor 1-2-3 subs, etc... You can design cold war scenarios (lets say 1970-1990 timeframe). Cold war subs from the US side are limited to 688 flt 1/2/3, virginia, seawolf and the sturgeon and sturgeon (long variant).
Soviet choice is a bit more extended.

ComSubSim is coming along very nicely, and the 3d models are superb.
its nowhere near finished of course, but even so you can see how much potential this indie-freeware sim has.

12-03-09, 04:04 AM	#1
ioncore Bilge Rat Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thresher and November, anyone? (Subsim for 50s-60s) Hi guys, Just a small question. While it is quite understandable why WWII, modern times and WWI (in this exact order) do occupy the top charts of all the subsims, I'm pretty sure that there are fans of the early Cold War era: the era of zounds of diezel submarines, the era of USS Nautilus and innovative Threshers, the era of Soviet nuclear fleet buildup and carrier-killer cruise missiles (oh and don't ever forget about Badgers, and of course Bear-C/Kresta/Echo II integral missile guidance system), the mix of aging and dying WWII tactics and completely new doctrines. Why there always were so little interest for that era? Were there ever attempts to create any mod for 50s-60s (+ early 70s) for any existing commercial subsim? Or were there any indies/open source sims for that era? Being a C++/Linux programmer myself, it seems to me that the powerful dangerdeep (God bless its creators ) is an excellent starter platform for such a sort of "modding" experiments, especially due to the amazing technical level of that project and its open sources. Cheers

12-08-09, 04:52 AM	#2
Bartolomeus Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 190 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Iam very interested in the Cold War era. I build different models of the Cold War era. Here is my website. It would be nice to have a Cold War sim with good graphics like Silent Hunter. __________________

03-01-10, 10:54 PM	#5
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Personally, I would like to see a sim like this. Doubt anyone ever thought of it till this post came up. shrug I haven't seen anything pertaining to the Cold War excpet perhaps Strike Fighters, which is an ACM. I won't posit any theories here yet. But who knows? __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

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02-22-10, 10:26 AM	#3
Deamon Commodore Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 642 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	And i concur with that! I always had great interest in the cold war era and in-fact there are 2 projects dealing with this already.

03-12-10, 06:51 AM	#7
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	While waiting for ComSubSim I'd say to give Dangerous Waters with the DWX mod installed a spin. Although its not strictly pure cold war, it has Sturgeon subs, Alfa subs, Victor 1-2-3 subs, etc... You can design cold war scenarios (lets say 1970-1990 timeframe). Cold war subs from the US side are limited to 688 flt 1/2/3, virginia, seawolf and the sturgeon and sturgeon (long variant). Soviet choice is a bit more extended. ComSubSim is coming along very nicely, and the 3d models are superb. its nowhere near finished of course, but even so you can see how much potential this indie-freeware sim has.