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Old 03-25-12, 11:02 AM   #1
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Subsim Higgins PT-boat model contest.

Purpose:
Playable Higgins PT-625 class
The main purpose of this model is to be used on our PT boat (PT-658) to demonstrate PT boat fighting strategy to the public. The level of detail in SH4 allows us to re-create some of the famous PT-boat engagements from WW2 and it would be cool to show them off to the public.
There has also been a demand for a game with PT boat missions in the Pacific, and in-lieu of a specific pt boat game (Pacific based), hopefully this will fill the need.



The Prize:
Cash award (TBD), PT-658 shirt, DVD ***8220;Devil Boats, story of PT-658***8221;, PT-boat pin, PT-boat book (TBD) , possible ride on PT boat during Portland***8217;s fleet-week?

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Timeline: Anytime before June 2012
All research data will/can be provided by NikiMcBee as needed.

Requirements:
· Detailed model of a Higgins PT boat
· Higgins bridge layout
· Late war armament configuration
· Twin Browning machine guns, .50 (usable)
· Roll-off Mark 13 torps (working)
· 37 mm cannon (useable)
· Modeled chart\radio room
· Model must work with TMO 2.5 and latest version of RSRD
· Torpedo aiming device (replace TDC binoculars?)


Extra credit (would be cool to have but not required)
· Modeled crew quarters (bow) and/or engine compartment
· Working rocket launchers
· Early war configuration (meaning torpedo tubes)
· Working depth charges
· Playable Elco PT-103 class. (model already in game, just needs accurate weapons loadout)

Any takers? Contact NikiMcBee for more details.
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Old 03-25-12, 08:01 PM   #2
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I'm also planning on recording the actual engine sounds for running and start-up.
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Old 03-25-12, 08:20 PM   #3
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There's a Guy not far North of me restoreing one from what I heard.
Old Fort, Ohio

Is Team work allowed on this project?

Also,
There is an Alpha Playable in the downloads section.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=612

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Old 03-25-12, 09:40 PM   #4
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There's a Guy not far North of me restoreing one from what I heard.
Old Fort, Ohio

Is Team work allowed on this project?

Also,
There is an Alpha Playable in the downloads section.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=612
Team work is allowed, but I'm not sure how we'd work the prize package.

I am serious about the ride on the boat, but the catch is you'd have to be here, in Portland, ore-gone during early June for fleet week.
:http://www.rosefestival.org/events/fleet/

You'd be my guest on board basically.

Since you're interested, are the basic requirements do-able?
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Old 03-25-12, 09:45 PM   #5
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I'm all for helping regardless of prizes.
I'm in contact now with several people involved with Higgins boats here in Ohio.

There's 2 that I am now aware of!!
They are also involved with D-Day Conneaut here in Ohio and are interested in this project of yours.


Word spreads fast don't it?



And what your asking is totally do able.
The only question that remains is........
How detailed do you want to get?
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And what your asking is totally do able.
The only question that remains is........
How detailed do you want to get?


I'm thinking the basic exterior would be easy, and maybe a highly detailed chart room.

If roll off torps, aren't too hard to do (with the weapons nodes) and the twin .50 Browinings, everything else is already there (the single bofor and single 20mm).

If it's not to hard, and early war version would be cool with the forward firing torp tubes, but our boat is late war.
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For the basic model, don't you just take one of the sub models and alter it? You're not creating a whole new model are you?
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Old 03-25-12, 10:11 PM   #8
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I looked at the alpha I posted in the link above and it's pretty much set up.

A few things would need changed to bring it in-line with what you want but I'd say start with that and much of the hard part is done.

I'll be leaveing for North of Detroit Tuesday and don't have a travel system as yet but I'll do whatever I can.

I also got word there is a Higgins near Detroit but have no confirmation on that info.
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If roll off torps, aren't too hard to do
Fired Torps are hard coded to do the eject thing but creative working of somethings might get a roll off effect before that happens.

That's something I never gave much thought to, to being honest.
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If you're serious about doing it, I could order you a copy of this:


It's hot off the press and half of it is of our boat (plus I'm in it)

What kind of data do you need? Basic boat layout?
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Research links: (WIP)

http://www.savetheptboatinc.com/
http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/05658.htm
http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/05625.htm

Higgins documents:
(these are free downloads
http://www.gdinc.com/download-01.html

http://www.gdinc.com/posterPTP-019.html
http://www.gdinc.com/posterPTP-012.html
http://www.gdinc.com/posterPTP-018.html





http://www.higginsboats.com/html/PT305/PTPhotos.html


Video:

(I need to shot some new video with our sexy new paint job)




(basic history of boat):




ooohh, look what I found:



New video 4.6.12
Pt-bow and bridge:
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Plans and links to info/pictures is enuff for model work.

I'm hopeing I may even get an invite to visit the Higgins in Old Fort.



Presentation in a 3D form is something that goes far beyound a Class room slide type thing.
This is a very worthy project that I'd be glad to assist with in anyway.
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Plans and links to info/pictures is enuff for model work.

I'm hopeing I may even get an invite to visit the Higgins in Old Fort.



Presentation in a 3D form is something that goes far beyound a Class room slide type thing.
This is a very worthy project that I'd be glad to assist with in anyway.
Anything you can do is great. The vets love anything that generates interest it the boat, and that is the main goal.
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@ Neal
Thanks for the Sticky.
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Old 03-26-12, 07:49 PM   #15
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I'll check out all the links you posted.
Thanks.


I also have a question.......
How does the Torp release work?
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