Tesla Model 3 in test: disappointing

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And milk and meat come from the grocery store.

Rubbish..It's come from the farm.

[Skybird]

Doubts raise on Tesla'S claim that autosteer drops accident rate by 40%. It seems it indeeds raises them by a factor of up to 2.4. The data given by Tesla to the NHTSA was erratic (if not forged). The NHTSA showed great incompetence in recognising these easily recognisable wrong data sets. Which leads to the question whether the NHTAS maybe wanted to help in promoting Tesla cars.


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Meanwhile European/German heavyweights mull to confront Tesla'S models with their first own major league e-cars, namely the Porsche Taycan. Could become the car that Tesla wants to be. Some like the Jaguar even are already released, leaving Tesla behind.



Think the hype about Tesla cars is finally over, if it was not already earlier. Their battery production may become the surviing hotspot of interest for investors and business deals, however - VW recently did a deal with Tesla on batteries.



On e-cars in general I still remain sceptical. Hydrogene and fuel cell technology imo make much, much, much, so very muchmuchmuch more sense and avoids many of the problems that e-engines are faced with. Plus the costs for e-mobility are hilarious. Its not the loading costs for the battery. Its about the costs for production, and disposal, and the costs for the needed infrastructure. They turn every eco-friendly argument about e-mobility into a nightmare. Many say e-mobility should be and will be the future. I say they are wrong.

[Skybird]

Another blow to Tesla's latest.


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Much hype about nothing.

[Buddahaid]

We'll see how well the overpriced German rivals do. I'm not impressed with German cars at all now. Overcomplicated, overpriced and overrated.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

We'll see how well the overpriced German rivals do. I'm not impressed with German cars at all now. Overcomplicated, overpriced and overrated.

^ Very true. There are almost no common people left who can buy new cars, it is all about companies' cars and leasing. Who wants or even can buy a VW Golf for 30,000 Euros? And don't ask about repair costs.
That said, other not-german new cars are every bit as complicated, but a lot cheaper.
I can only guess about what they will build into electric cars 'Internet of things' my donkey.

My next car's radio will be the only thing with electronics in it Period!

[Skybird]

I would take a Jaguar E-Pace or a Porsche Taycan over a Tesla any time. IF I would buy a car, and IF i would even buy an e-car.

I wouldn't. There is hardly a more efficient way to burn your wealth, than a car. Its already bad with cars in general, with e-cars it grows intol a value-loss desaster. The battery issue, you know...

I am more concerned about getting a replacement for my ebike. I am not satisfied with my current one.

For cars and for bicacles as well: batteries should not be a selling tiem, but a leasing item only. If you buy a battery for your bicycle, the producer has no interest in a battery with a long lifetime, even the opposite is rhe case. If it would be a leasing model only, then all of a sudden he must have an interest in a battery with a bigger life cycle.