AIRCRAFT Go DOWN

paperdog · 01-26-12, 12:46 AM

Hey everybody,

I 'm building a mission in DW where I have an enemy Mirage 5 scouting over the gulf for civilian shipping. The tactics are simple Area Way-points (and/or Perimerter boxes)

During run-time, the aircraft maneuvers around and eventually descends down to sea level, where it just craps out...and disappears.

I've tried altitude and speed adjustments on the way points, but no luck.

Anyway to fix this problem?

thanks

eodcheese · 01-26-12, 05:51 AM

Does he run out of fuel?

paperdog · 01-26-12, 09:50 PM

I don't think its out of fuel...since this happens within a few minutes of mission start. (Starts as in flight aircraft and with the refresh setting enabled it should actually turn and head for Base when fuel is low)

Molon Labe · 01-27-12, 01:11 PM

I would experiment with the surface EMCON (turn EMCON off if it's on), aircraft loadout, aircraft type (consider MPA, AWACS, unarmed craft in particular), and if all else fails, revert to a simple Transit tactic.

If I remember correctly, most of the time I experienced this sort of AI bug in mission design it was being caused by fighter aircraft trying to VID or engage surface traffic. So the solutions could involve classifying the contacts sooner, or getting the aircraft to just not care.

paperdog · 02-05-12, 01:51 PM

Thanks Molon, I will investigate that option. By default I think Emcon is already off, Loadouts on the Mirage are also default ( Excocets).

I had a formation defined (Two aircraft) and the wing-man in that group crapped out during the attack run of the civilian shipping...

SO, I dropped the formation and kept it to one aircraft and that seemed to improve the duration of the aircraft's life, before it crapped out also.

I'm now looking at the civilian shipping (which also was a formation of three vessels)

There may be a connection surrounding the id of formations (where the aircraft AI cant discern the individual traffic)

I'll keep ya posted...
thanks again.

Molon Labe · 02-05-12, 02:01 PM

For diagnostic purposes, you could put a friendly ship within 10 or so miles of the surface traffic the Mirages are looking for. My guess would be the friendly ship will ID the traffic and then the Mirages will either go about their business or fire off their Exocets.

If that works, you could have a more AI-stable craft (or a craft on Transit tactic) ID the civvies and spawn the Mirages afterwards.

01-26-12, 12:46 AM	#1
paperdog Nub Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	AIRCRAFT Go DOWN Hey everybody, I 'm building a mission in DW where I have an enemy Mirage 5 scouting over the gulf for civilian shipping. The tactics are simple Area Way-points (and/or Perimerter boxes) During run-time, the aircraft maneuvers around and eventually descends down to sea level, where it just craps out...and disappears. I've tried altitude and speed adjustments on the way points, but no luck. Anyway to fix this problem? thanks

01-27-12, 01:11 PM	#4
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	I would experiment with the surface EMCON (turn EMCON off if it's on), aircraft loadout, aircraft type (consider MPA, AWACS, unarmed craft in particular), and if all else fails, revert to a simple Transit tactic. If I remember correctly, most of the time I experienced this sort of AI bug in mission design it was being caused by fighter aircraft trying to VID or engage surface traffic. So the solutions could involve classifying the contacts sooner, or getting the aircraft to just not care. __________________

02-05-12, 02:01 PM	#6
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	For diagnostic purposes, you could put a friendly ship within 10 or so miles of the surface traffic the Mirages are looking for. My guess would be the friendly ship will ID the traffic and then the Mirages will either go about their business or fire off their Exocets. If that works, you could have a more AI-stable craft (or a craft on Transit tactic) ID the civvies and spawn the Mirages afterwards. __________________

01-26-12, 05:51 AM	#2
eodcheese Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York City, NY Posts: 8 Downloads: 159 Uploads: 0	Does he run out of fuel?

01-26-12, 09:50 PM	#3
paperdog Nub Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't think its out of fuel...since this happens within a few minutes of mission start. (Starts as in flight aircraft and with the refresh setting enabled it should actually turn and head for Base when fuel is low)

02-05-12, 01:51 PM	#5
paperdog Nub Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks Molon, I will investigate that option. By default I think Emcon is already off, Loadouts on the Mirage are also default ( Excocets). I had a formation defined (Two aircraft) and the wing-man in that group crapped out during the attack run of the civilian shipping... SO, I dropped the formation and kept it to one aircraft and that seemed to improve the duration of the aircraft's life, before it crapped out also. I'm now looking at the civilian shipping (which also was a formation of three vessels) There may be a connection surrounding the id of formations (where the aircraft AI cant discern the individual traffic) I'll keep ya posted... thanks again.