Cost?

[c130]

Hello, I'm kina new to the sub world (Im an active flight simmer) and was wondering whether its known if it's going to be free? Sorry if the answer is in another topic, I am still getting used to the search feature.

[Sailor Steve]

WELCOME ABOARD!

Yes, SHO is advertised as Free To Play. They expect to make money from people who don't want to wait for upgrades and goodies, and are willing to pay for them now. I've hear that this kind of thing does indeed make money for the company. We'll see how it goes.

[c130]

That's good news!

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by c130

That's good news!

Welcome to SubSim C130,

[Herr-Berbunch]

Free to play certainly does work, as does pay to upgrade - it just kind of sneaks up on you if you really get into it. I didn't think I'd pay to upgrade free stuff, but Rise of Flight is an excellent example of me doing so.

People still buy DLCs for paid games, well it's just the same. Unless you want to grind your way through to upgrades, which works in F2P.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Rise of Flight is an excellent example of me doing so.

I looked at SHO and said I'd never pay for something like that. Then I did a detailed study of ROF (mainly watching lots of videos) and found myself licking my lips in anticipation of getting a computer that will run it.

Yeah, I'd pay for the right content.

[GoldenRivet]

I can see it now:

$1.99 to increase max surface speed
$1.25 to increase torpedo effectiveness
$.99 increase morale
$1.25 reduced fatigue rate
$.99 expert reload increased reload speed
$.99 expert gun crew
$1.99 deep dive
$1.99 longer lasting batteries
$2.50 expert watch crew
$.99 gramophone player with 4 period songs!
$4.99 fifty song gramophone pack
$1.50 prewar training mission expansion pack
$2.50 paint scheme pack
$4.99 conning tower emblems pack
$2.25 sound FX upgrade
$6.00 graphics upgrade

Before you know it you just paid $200 for SHIII w/ GWX

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I looked at SHO and said I'd never pay for something like that. Then I did a detailed study of ROF (mainly watching lots of videos) and found myself licking my lips in anticipation of getting a computer that will run it.

Yeah, I'd pay for the right content.

I would also. I also want to see something I enjoy become a success. If I do not enjoy it, I simply stop playing and it cost me nothing. Like WOT: nice game, was interesting for a couple days, but it was not compelling, for me. I hope it continues to do well, I don't have anything against some guys making a living from their work, but it was not realistic enough for me, and the social apsects of the game did not lock me in, like Iron Wolves did back in the day. 1baddude, where are you?

[Takeda Shingen]

Yes, the game is free to play (FTP), which really means that it's pay to win (PTW). That's all that I am really concerned about now. I have accepted the game for what it is, and have no other worries except for this model.

[elanaiba]

Not all F2P are P2W (heh). See Team Fortress 2 for example.

On the other hand, if the game is coop multiplayer, just because somebody is advancing faster than you in XP path ... why do you care?

[Cpt-Maxim]

Lets avoid making people falsely believe incorrect acronyms.

"pay two win" is P2W. <-- wrong communication when using the number 2.
"Pay To Win" is PTW.

If you feel like using three letters or digits, use the ones guaranteed to get the torpedo on target.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

WELCOME ABOARD!

Yes, SHO is advertised as Free To Play. They expect to make money from people who don't want to wait for upgrades and goodies, and are willing to pay for them now. I've hear that this kind of thing does indeed make money for the company. We'll see how it goes.

Not exactly, an investigation made last year about the games on Facebook, showed that only 3.7 % paid money on the game they played there. (I've been searching for it, but I can't find this report)

But maybe the people in this forum are more generous and are more willing to pay.

Markus

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by mapuc

But maybe the people in this forum are more generous and are more willing to pay.

I'm certainly not. Not because I wouldn't, but this just doesn't look like my kind of game. I doubt I'll play it at all.

[TorpX]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'm certainly not. Not because I wouldn't, but this just doesn't look like my kind of game. I doubt I'll play it at all.

This is how I feel.

I wouldn't mind paying Ubisoft for what I consider a good game. I accept the principle that anyone who provides a good or service I want deserves to get something in return, 100%. However, Ubisoft seems to have the attitude that they should be able to make a good profit on a very poorly finished/unfinished product.

I have also come to think that all these mediocre Silent Sub Stuff games are using up all the oxygen, and leading to both customers and developers being soured on the matter. Why is it so much to ask, for a Good and Complete version of SH IV? I would be happy to pay for that!

[BigBANGtheory]

Originally Posted by TorpX

Why is it so much to ask, for a Good and Complete version of SH IV? I would be happy to pay for that!

...because publishers treat gamers as addicts and without competition they have free rein to take as much piss as they think they can get away with on developers and consumers.

This is why crowd funding holds hope as the developers have to reach out and appeal to their market 4TW 2Day.