[REL] Thomsen's Water V4.0 (10/12/2008) - The Pool results go live - NEW VERSION!!! - Page 5

kenijaru · 09-15-08, 03:38 PM

I've got 2x FPS when attacking a convoy (that's the "strain test" right?

) and i have one screen to show the "weird" thing (pm'd it to you).

system:
processor: Athlon AMD 2.2ghz
2gb ram
Geforce 6600 GT (256mb)

vince0018 · 09-16-08, 04:14 AM

I'm not sure how to post screenshots, i've read how a long time ago but have completely forgotten. But here's my experience:
I put your mod overtop OLCE2 environment and his GUI and it runs ok but i'm not sure if there's any adverse effects I am not aware of.

Specs:
MS Windows XP SP3
256MB ATI Radeon HD2400Pro graphics card
3GB DDR2 memory
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+

For this test i used 2x anti-aliasing and 4x anistrophic filtering but I think i'll try again soon with less anistrophic because it seems to slow my fps down.
In the command room: 45-55fps
On the bridge: 20-30 fps.

This seems somewhat low compared to other peoples tests but it still seems relatively smooth to me when I'm playing. I've also noticed that fps drops when looking towards the sun and there's lots of sun reflection on the water. But this should be expected I suppose.

vince0018 · 09-16-08, 05:36 AM

Also here are all the mods I have running. The top of the list starts with the first ones loaded on, and the last ends with the most recent loaded. And please tell me if i have several mods that should not be running together at the same time, or that are pointless to have running simultaneously:

GWX 2.1
SH3 Commander 3.1.3.185

Torpedo Damage Final ver2.0
Ice Age
GWX - Main Movie - 'Das Boot'
GWX - Merged Campaign
GWX 2.1 sil tga fixes
Thomsen's Sound Pack V3
PT_SoundPack_V3.1
PT_SoundPack_V3.2
GWX Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
OLCE2
Officer Faces 2
Lifeboats&Debris_v3B
GWX_ships_Buoyance&draught_mod
OLCE2 - Adjusted GWX 2.1 Crew Skins
WBNN Messages
OLC GUI Special
OLCE2 Adjusted GWX 2.1 Normal Particles (with reflections)
Crash Dive 40 Metres!
Contact Fix
RealWeatherFixMod
interior diving angles
LRT v2.02 Final
SB_cameras_mod_SH3
Intro Music - Das Boot Theme
GWX 2.1 fix patch LRT 2.02
OLCU Special GUI LRT 2.02 Final patch
SB & LRT 2.02 & OLC GUI Special
Grey U-Marker
New Icons 153281
Ultimate Aircraft Soundmod
Reworked GWX SH.sdl file for Ultimate Aircraft Soundmod
Thomson's Environment v1.0
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons

I have written the entire modlist letter for letter so there should be no spelling errors. I realize that New Icons (officer faces in crew management) overwrites Officer Faces 2 but i've been too lazy lately to take out the ones i don't need because then i have to re-arrange the entire list, and in the case of OLC mods, LRT mods and SB cameras mods i'd have to do massive rearranging.
Also on the water when I run the game with no AA or AF there seems to be small spots on the water, but I don't think that has much to do with just your mod, I think it's the game but I thought I'd mention it. I run the game with at 2x AA mostly anyway.

Philipp_Thomsen · 09-16-08, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vince0018

Also here are all the mods I have running. The top of the list starts with the first ones loaded on, and the last ends with the most recent loaded. And please tell me if i have several mods that should not be running together at the same time, or that are pointless to have running simultaneously:

GWX 2.1
SH3 Commander 3.1.3.185

Torpedo Damage Final ver2.0
Ice Age
GWX - Main Movie - 'Das Boot'
GWX - Merged Campaign
GWX 2.1 sil tga fixes
Thomsen's Sound Pack V3
PT_SoundPack_V3.1
PT_SoundPack_V3.2
GWX Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
OLCE2
Officer Faces 2
Lifeboats&Debris_v3B
GWX_ships_Buoyance&draught_mod
OLCE2 - Adjusted GWX 2.1 Crew Skins
WBNN Messages
OLC GUI Special
OLCE2 Adjusted GWX 2.1 Normal Particles (with reflections)
Crash Dive 40 Metres!
Contact Fix
RealWeatherFixMod
interior diving angles
LRT v2.02 Final
SB_cameras_mod_SH3
Intro Music - Das Boot Theme
GWX 2.1 fix patch LRT 2.02
OLCU Special GUI LRT 2.02 Final patch
SB & LRT 2.02 & OLC GUI Special
Grey U-Marker
New Icons 153281
Ultimate Aircraft Soundmod
Reworked GWX SH.sdl file for Ultimate Aircraft Soundmod
Thomson's Environment v1.0
GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons

I have written the entire modlist letter for letter so there should be no spelling errors. I realize that New Icons (officer faces in crew management) overwrites Officer Faces 2 but i've been too lazy lately to take out the ones i don't need because then i have to re-arrange the entire list, and in the case of OLC mods, LRT mods and SB cameras mods i'd have to do massive rearranging.
Also on the water when I run the game with no AA or AF there seems to be small spots on the water, but I don't think that has much to do with just your mod, I think it's the game but I thought I'd mention it. I run the game with at 2x AA mostly anyway.

Interesting... those back spots go away with anti-aliasing! :hmm:

vince0018 · 09-17-08, 06:05 AM

It seems I was wrong, at least partly, about the AA reducing or removing the spots. AA still helps make them less noticeable but in screenshots you can see they are clearly still there.
I've also noticed that when looking at the water up close there are small round-ish waves or ripples and I think perhaps the black spots in the distance may be caused by this. Just like ship reflections in the distance become distorted the game is distorting these small ripples.
I may be wrong about the water ripples but it seems plausible to me. I know little about modding and have no real graphics knowledge so please correct me on anything I am mistaking.
I hope this helps though.
And it seems that in areas where the sun is shining on the water, or reflecting, the black spots get far worse. and darker areas have almost none.

vince0018 · 09-17-08, 06:20 AM

Another thing I noticed is that there are more spots where there's cloud cover. But mostly where the sun is shining on that area at the same time. Like a sunset/sunrise or overcast sky with the sun behind the clouds.
Areas with no sun and cloud cover have no or few spots.

onelifecrisis · 09-17-08, 07:23 AM

I've not seen any screenshots of these "spots" so I can't say for sure but - try enabling AF, that might fix them.

Philipp_Thomsen · 09-17-08, 01:35 PM

Look at the water on a clear dark night and tell me what do you see!

Task Force · 09-17-08, 02:13 PM

I got little black triangles on the horison.

SeaWolf U-57 · 09-17-08, 03:21 PM

i have been running the water mod for a short time and it looks very good i have read about the black spots ...:hmm: when i run the mod i dont have spots but a very dark green pattern on the waves which to my mind looks good the only matter i can see is the way the waves break over the bow but that is only a small thing and i have not seen it in light or heavy sea's only in 7m winds, dam good try though

vince0018 · 09-17-08, 05:38 PM

The black spots look similar to reflections cast by ships at a distance. How they look quite distorted. If someone can tell me how I may be able to post screenshots.
And I'm checking out night time right away.

Task Force · 09-17-08, 05:46 PM

1 get a acount with a image hosting site.

Copy pics Adress/code.

Put code in post.

Or look at the SH3 pic thread. Dowly put in a tutoral.

Philipp_Thomsen · 09-17-08, 06:14 PM

Forget the pictures for now. I've changed completly the way that reflections works. The V1.1 version is being uploaded on my filefront page, as well as the first post has been updated with the changelog and some pictures.

Philipp_Thomsen · 09-17-08, 06:27 PM

Those screens have been posted on the first post of the thread, along with some new info.

The V1.1 of this mod is already avaliable for beta-testing at my FileFront page, by clicking on my signature.

vince0018 · 09-17-08, 06:44 PM

I am speechless.
I just tried the new version at daytime settings and nighttime settings.
This is the most beautiful water... Everything is perfect, the ripples are longer like how you see in lakes and stuff (I've never seen the ocean but I'm sure it has ripples like that.)
This is a huge step from the stock SH3 water. There is no way I'm ever gonna stop using this water, it is perfect. I actually feel like I'm sailing over real water now.
Thank you so much for your long hours of hard work.

09-16-08, 04:14 AM	#62
vince0018 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 33 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	I'm not sure how to post screenshots, i've read how a long time ago but have completely forgotten. But here's my experience: I put your mod overtop OLCE2 environment and his GUI and it runs ok but i'm not sure if there's any adverse effects I am not aware of. Specs: MS Windows XP SP3 256MB ATI Radeon HD2400Pro graphics card 3GB DDR2 memory AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ For this test i used 2x anti-aliasing and 4x anistrophic filtering but I think i'll try again soon with less anistrophic because it seems to slow my fps down. In the command room: 45-55fps On the bridge: 20-30 fps. This seems somewhat low compared to other peoples tests but it still seems relatively smooth to me when I'm playing. I've also noticed that fps drops when looking towards the sun and there's lots of sun reflection on the water. But this should be expected I suppose. __________________ "You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word." Al Capone

09-16-08, 05:36 AM	#63
vince0018 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 33 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Also here are all the mods I have running. The top of the list starts with the first ones loaded on, and the last ends with the most recent loaded. And please tell me if i have several mods that should not be running together at the same time, or that are pointless to have running simultaneously: GWX 2.1 SH3 Commander 3.1.3.185 Torpedo Damage Final ver2.0 Ice Age GWX - Main Movie - 'Das Boot' GWX - Merged Campaign GWX 2.1 sil tga fixes Thomsen's Sound Pack V3 PT_SoundPack_V3.1 PT_SoundPack_V3.2 GWX Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas OLCE2 Officer Faces 2 Lifeboats&Debris_v3B GWX_ships_Buoyance&draught_mod OLCE2 - Adjusted GWX 2.1 Crew Skins WBNN Messages OLC GUI Special OLCE2 Adjusted GWX 2.1 Normal Particles (with reflections) Crash Dive 40 Metres! Contact Fix RealWeatherFixMod interior diving angles LRT v2.02 Final SB_cameras_mod_SH3 Intro Music - Das Boot Theme GWX 2.1 fix patch LRT 2.02 OLCU Special GUI LRT 2.02 Final patch SB & LRT 2.02 & OLC GUI Special Grey U-Marker New Icons 153281 Ultimate Aircraft Soundmod Reworked GWX SH.sdl file for Ultimate Aircraft Soundmod Thomson's Environment v1.0 GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons I have written the entire modlist letter for letter so there should be no spelling errors. I realize that New Icons (officer faces in crew management) overwrites Officer Faces 2 but i've been too lazy lately to take out the ones i don't need because then i have to re-arrange the entire list, and in the case of OLC mods, LRT mods and SB cameras mods i'd have to do massive rearranging. Also on the water when I run the game with no AA or AF there seems to be small spots on the water, but I don't think that has much to do with just your mod, I think it's the game but I thought I'd mention it. I run the game with at 2x AA mostly anyway. __________________ "You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word." Al Capone

09-17-08, 06:05 AM	#65
vince0018 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 33 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	It seems I was wrong, at least partly, about the AA reducing or removing the spots. AA still helps make them less noticeable but in screenshots you can see they are clearly still there. I've also noticed that when looking at the water up close there are small round-ish waves or ripples and I think perhaps the black spots in the distance may be caused by this. Just like ship reflections in the distance become distorted the game is distorting these small ripples. I may be wrong about the water ripples but it seems plausible to me. I know little about modding and have no real graphics knowledge so please correct me on anything I am mistaking. I hope this helps though. And it seems that in areas where the sun is shining on the water, or reflecting, the black spots get far worse. and darker areas have almost none. __________________ "You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word." Al Capone Last edited by vince0018; 09-17-08 at 06:16 AM.

09-17-08, 06:20 AM	#66
vince0018 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 33 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Another thing I noticed is that there are more spots where there's cloud cover. But mostly where the sun is shining on that area at the same time. Like a sunset/sunrise or overcast sky with the sun behind the clouds. Areas with no sun and cloud cover have no or few spots. __________________ "You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word." Al Capone

09-17-08, 07:23 AM	#67
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	I've not seen any screenshots of these "spots" so I can't say for sure but - try enabling AF, that might fix them. __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard.

09-17-08, 01:35 PM	#68
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Look at the water on a clear dark night and tell me what do you see! __________________ To each his own

09-17-08, 02:13 PM	#69
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I got little black triangles on the horison. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

09-17-08, 03:21 PM	#70
SeaWolf U-57 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,231 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Water mod i have been running the water mod for a short time and it looks very good i have read about the black spots ...:hmm: when i run the mod i dont have spots but a very dark green pattern on the waves which to my mind looks good the only matter i can see is the way the waves break over the bow but that is only a small thing and i have not seen it in light or heavy sea's only in 7m winds, dam good try though

09-17-08, 05:38 PM	#71
vince0018 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 33 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	The black spots look similar to reflections cast by ships at a distance. How they look quite distorted. If someone can tell me how I may be able to post screenshots. And I'm checking out night time right away. __________________ "You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word." Al Capone

09-17-08, 05:46 PM	#72
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	1 get a acount with a image hosting site. Copy pics Adress/code. Put code in post. Or look at the SH3 pic thread. Dowly put in a tutoral. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

09-17-08, 06:14 PM	#73
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Forget the pictures for now. I've changed completly the way that reflections works. The V1.1 version is being uploaded on my filefront page, as well as the first post has been updated with the changelog and some pictures. __________________ To each his own

09-17-08, 06:27 PM	#74
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Those screens have been posted on the first post of the thread, along with some new info. The V1.1 of this mod is already avaliable for beta-testing at my FileFront page, by clicking on my signature. __________________ To each his own

09-17-08, 06:44 PM	#75
vince0018 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 33 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	I am speechless. I just tried the new version at daytime settings and nighttime settings. This is the most beautiful water... Everything is perfect, the ripples are longer like how you see in lakes and stuff (I've never seen the ocean but I'm sure it has ripples like that.) This is a huge step from the stock SH3 water. There is no way I'm ever gonna stop using this water, it is perfect. I actually feel like I'm sailing over real water now. Thank you so much for your long hours of hard work. __________________ "You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word." Al Capone