Suggested IJN ship substitution list

tater · 06-20-07, 03:25 PM

Posted this in another forum, thought it might be useful.

Here's a list of ships that are NOT in SH4, and which extant SH4 classes should be used to substitute for them. The ship NOT in SH4 is on the left, the suggested replacement on the right. Number in parenthesis is the number in the class if I put it there at all. Obviously, open to suggestion for changes.

CV(L) (distinction between CV/CVL in IJN is hard)
Akagi = Shokaku (cause it's big)

Kaga = Shokaku (cause it's big)

Unryo = Hiryu (which should be called "Soryu" Class, but isn't, but that's another thread)
Amagi= Hiryu
Katsuragi= Hiryu

Hiyo = Taiho?
Junyo = Taiho?

CVL/E
Shoho = Taiyo
Zuiho = Taiyo

Ryuho = Taiyo

Hosho = Taiyo

Shinyo = Taiyo

Kaiyo = Taiyo

Chiotse (after january 1944 when she was converted to a CVE) = Taiyo
Chiyoda (after Dec '43 CVE conversion) = Taiyo

(note I exclusively used Taiyo as a CVE(L) for aesthetic reasons vs Akitsu Maru)

IJ ARMY "Carriers" Really "plane ferries." (these should all be reset to zero air groups since planes flew off ONCE to land bases)
Nigicu Maru = Akitsu Maru

Shimane Maru = Akitsu Maru

Otakisan Maru = Akitsu Maru

Yamashiro Maru = Akitsu Maru

Chigusa Maru = Akitsu Maru

Kumano Maru = Akitsu Maru

BB
Nagato = Fuso (?)
Mutsu = Fuso (?)

CA
Myoko Class (4) = Takao

Mogami Class in game need to have early war version bashed. Maya maybe if you want pre-Midway.

Tone Class (2) = Mogami? (needs a bash, badly)

CL
Oyodo (Class ship was only ship) = Agano

Nagara Class (6) = Kuma

Tenryu Class (2) = Naka

Yubari (1)= Akizuki DD? (she was only 3500 tons)

Katori Class (3) = Large Minelayer? (Katoris were training CLs that made all of 18 knots. A real POS.)

DD
Kamikaze Class (9) = Minekaze (was improved version)

Akatsuki Class (4) = Fubuki (visually similar, not sure but looks like improved Fubuki)

Hatsuharu Class (6) = Shiratsuyu (looks like Shiratsuyu was maybe an improved Hatsuharu)

Kagero Class (19) = Asashio (Kagero was an improved Asashio, visually almost identical)

Yugumo Class (19) = Asashio (Yugumo was an improved Kagero)

Shimakaze (1) = Akizuki

DE (*not a really an IJN distinction, Matsu was really a small DD)
Matsu Class (32) = ? (use Mutsuki, but limit speed to 28 knots max)

PC (subchaser (different than the in-game one! 64 built total)
Sub CH-13 for all right now.

Kaibokan
Sorely lacking, they are 2x CH-13 in size, 1/2 Minekaze's size. No idea. needs a bash.

Best idea is either a cloned Minesweeper, a bash, or resetting Minesweepers to be "patrol" boats so they will act like escorts.

AVA
Bash of fleet oiler needed for these.

nematode · 06-23-07, 01:45 PM

That's pretty close to the list of substitutes that I'm using. Here's a list of ships that I've added to my layers, and the SH4 models I use for them. Quite a few of them are placeholders, like where I use KLCSNagara or MLOkinoshima to stand in for a bunch of different stuff. If someday someone comes out with some models, I can do a global replace for them in the mis files.

Armed Merchant Cruiser Aikoku Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Akagi Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Awata Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Hokoku Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Kinryu Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Kiyosumi Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Kongo Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Noshiro Maru =KLCSNagara
BB Fuso =BBFuso
BB Haruna =BBKongo
BB Hiei =BBKongo
BB Huyga (post-rebuild) =BBIseConv
BB Hyuga (pre-rebuild) =BBIse
BB Ise (post-rebuild) =BBIseConv
BB Ise (pre-rebuild) =BBIse
BB Kirishima =BBKongo
BB Kongo =BBKongo
BB Musashi =BBYamato
BB Mutsu =BBFuso
BB Nagato =BBFuso
BB Yamashiro =BBFuso
BB Yamato =BBYamato
CA Aoba =CAFurutaka
CA Ashigara =CATakao
CA Atago =CATakao
CA Chikuma =CAMogami
CA Chokai =CATakao
CA Furutaka =CAFurutaka
CA Haguro =CATakao
CA Kako =CAFurutaka
CA Kinugasa =CAFurutaka
CA Kumano =CATakao
CA Maya =CATakao
CA Mikuma =CATakao
CA Mogami (post-rebuild) =CAMogami
CA Mogami (pre-rebuild) =CATakao
CA Myoko =CATakao
CA Nachi =CATakao
CA Suzuya =CATakao
CA Takao =CATakao
CA Tone =CAMogami
CL Abukuma =CLKuma
CL Agano =CLAgano
CL Isuzu =CLKuma
CL Jintsu =CLNaka
CL Kashii =MLOkinoshima
CL Kashima =MLOkinoshima
CL Katori =MLOkinoshima
CL Kinu =CLKuma
CL Kiso =CLKuma
CL Kitakami =CLKuma
CL Kuma =CLKuma
CL Nagara =CLKuma
CL Naka =CLNaka
CL Natori =CLKuma
CL Noshiro =CLAgano
CL Oi =CLKuma
CL Oyodo =CLAgano
CL Sakawa =CLAgano
CL Sendai =CLNaka
CL Tama =CLKuma
CL Tatsuta =CLKuma
CL Tenryu =CLKuma
CL Yahagi =CLAgano
CL Yubari =MLOkinoshima
CL Yura =CLKuma
CV Akagi =CVShokaku
CV Amagi =CVHiryu
CV Hiryu =CVHiryu
CV Hiyo =CVShokaku
CV Junyo =CVShokaku
CV Kaga =CVShokaku
CV Katsuragi =CVHiryu
CV Shinano =CVTaiho
CV Shokaku =CVShokaku
CV Soryu =CVHiryu
CV Taiho =CVTaiho
CV Unryu =CVHiryu
CV Zuikaku =CVShokaku
CVE Chuyo =CVETaiyo
CVE Kaiyo =CVETaiyo
CVE Shinyo =CVETaiyo
CVE Taiyo =CVETaiyo
CVE Unyo =CVETaiyo
CVL Chitose (post-rebuild) =CVETaiyo
CVL Chiyoda (post-rebuild) =CVETaiyo
CVL Hosho =CVETaiyo
CVL Ryuho =CVETaiyo
CVL Ryujo =CVETaiyo
CVL Shoho =CVETaiyo
CVL Zuiho =CVETaiyo
DD Akatsuki =DDFubuki
DD Akebono =DDFubuki
DD Akigumo =DDAsashio
DD Akikaze =DDMinekaze
DD Akishimo =DDAsashio
DD Akizuki =DDAkizuki
DD Amagiri =DDFubuki
DD Amatsukaze =DDAsashio
DD Arare =DDAsashio
DD Arashi =DDAsashio
DD Arashio =DDAsashio
DD Ariake =DDShiratsuyu
DD Asagao (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Asagiri =DDFubuki
DD Asagumo =DDAsashio
DD Asakaze =DDMinekaze
DD Asanagi =DDMinekaze
DD Asanagi =DDMinekaze
DD Asashimo =DDAsashio
DD Asashio =DDAsashio
DD Ayanami =DDFubuki
DD Fubuki =DDFubuki
DD Fujinami =DDAsashio
DD Fumizuki =DDMutsuki
DD Fuyo (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Fuyuzuki =DDAkizuki
DD Hagikaze =DDAsashio
DD Hakaze =DDMinekaze
DD Hamakaze =DDAsashio
DD Hamanami =DDAsashio
DD Hanazuki =DDAkizuki
DD Harukaze =DDMinekaze
DD Harusame =DDShiratsuyu
DD Haruzuki =DDAkizuki
DD Hasu (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Hatakaze =DDMinekaze
DD Hatsuharu =DDShiratsuyu
DD Hatsukaze =DDAsashio
DD Hatsushimo =DDShiratsuyu
DD Hatsuyuki =DDFubuki
DD Hatsuzuki =DDAkizuki
DD Hayanami =DDAsashio
DD Hayashimo =DDAsashio
DD Hayashio =DDAsashio
DD Hayate =DDMinekaze
DD Hibiki =DDFubuki
DD Hokaze =DDMinekaze
DD Ikazuchi =DDFubuki
DD Inazuma =DDFubuki
DD Isokaze =DDAsashio
DD Isonami =DDFubuki
DD Kagero =DDAsashio
DD Kamikaze =DDMinekaze
DD Karukaya (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Kasumi =DDAsashio
DD Kawakaze =DDShiratsuyu
DD Kazagumo =DDAsashio
DD Kikuzuki =DDMutsuki
DD Kisaragi =DDMutsuki
DD Kishinami =DDAsashio
DD Kiyonami =DDAsashio
DD Kiyoshimo =DDAsashio
DD Kuretake (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Kuri (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Kuroshio =DDAsashio
DD Maikaze =DDAsashio
DD Makigumo =DDAsashio
DD Makinami =DDAsashio
DD Matsukaze =DDMinekaze
DD Michishio =DDAsashio
DD Minazuki =DDMutsuki
DD Minegumo =DDAsashio
DD Minekaze =DDMinekaze
DD Mochizuki =DDMutsuki
DD Murakumo =DDFubuki
DD Murasame =DDShiratsuyu
DD Mutsuki =DDMutsuki
DD Naganami =DDAsashio
DD Nagatsuki =DDMutsuki
DD Namikaze =DDMinekaze
DD Natsugumo =DDAsashio
DD Natsushio =DDAsashio
DD Natsuzuki =DDAkizuki
DD Nenohi =DDShiratsuyu
DD Niizuki =DDAkizuki
DD Nokaze =DDMinekaze
DD Nowaki =DDAsashio
DD Numakaze =DDMinekaze
DD Oboro =DDFubuki
DD Oite =DDMinekaze
DD Okikaze =DDMinekaze
DD Okinami =DDAsashio
DD Onami =DDAsashio
DD Oshio =DDAsashio
DD Oyashio =DDAsashio
DD Sagiri =DDFubuki
DD Samidare =DDShiratsuyu
DD Sanae (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Satsuki =DDMutsuki
DD Sawakaze =DDMinekaze
DD Sazanami =DDFubuki
DD Shigure =DDShiratsuyu
DD Shikinami =DDFubuki
DD Shimakaze =DDFubuki
DD Shimotsuki =DDAkizuki
DD Shinonome =DDFubuki
DD Shiokaze =DDMinekaze
DD Shirakumo =DDFubuki
DD Shiranuhi =DDAsashio
DD Shiratsuyu =DDShiratsuyu
DD Shirayuki =DDFubuki
DD Suzukaze =DDShiratsuyu
DD Suzunami =DDAsashio
DD Suzutsuki =DDAkizuki
DD Tachikaze =DDMinekaze
DD Tamanami =DDAsashio
DD Tanikaze =DDAsashio
DD Teruzuki =DDAkizuki
DD Tokitsukaze =DDAsashio
DD Tsuga (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Umikaze =DDShiratsuyu
DD Urakaze =DDAsashio
DD Uranami =DDFubuki
DD Ushio =DDFubuki
DD Usugumo =DDFubuki
DD Uzuki =DDMutsuki
DD Wakaba =DDShiratsuyu
DD Wakatake (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Wakatsuki =DDAkizuki
DD Yamagumo =DDAsashio
DD Yamakaze =DDShiratsuyu
DD Yayoi =DDMutsuki
DD Yoizuki =DDAkizuki
DD Yudachi =DDShiratsuyu
DD Yugiri =DDFubuki
DD Yugumo =DDAsashio
DD Yukaze =DDMinekaze
DD Yukikaze =DDAsashio
DD Yunagi =DDMinekaze
DD Yuzuki =DDMutsuki
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Akebono Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Genyo Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Itsukushima Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kenyo Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kokuyo Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kyokuto Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Nichiei Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Nippon Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Shinkoku Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Toei Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Toho Maru =OLNippon
Gunboat (Auxiliary) Nagata Maru =KMSSKinposan
Hospital Ship Naminoue Maru =PLKiturin
Kaibokan Hachijo =MSNO13
Kaibokan Ishigaki =MSNO13
Kaibokan Kunashiri =MSNO13
Kaibokan Shimushu =MSNO13
Kaibokan Shimushu =MSNO13
Minelayer (Auxiliary) Tenyo Maru =KLCSNagara
Minelayer Itsukushima =MSNO13
Minelayer Kamone =SCSubchaser
Minelayer Okinoshima =MLOkinoshima
Minelayer Shirataka =MSNO13
Minelayer Tsubame =SCSubchaser
Minelayer Tsugaru =MLOkinoshima
Minelayer Yaeyama =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-1 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-10 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-11 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-13 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-14 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-15 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-16 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-17 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-18 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-19 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-2 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-3 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-4 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-5 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-6 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-7 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-8 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-9 =MSNO13
Netlayer Hatsutaka =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 1 (ex-Minekaze Class Shimakaze) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 2 (ex-Minekaze Class Nadakaze) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 31 (ex-Momi Class Kiku) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 32 (ex-Momi Class Aoi) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 33 (ex-Momi Class Hagi) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 34 (ex-Momi Class Suzuki) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 35 (ex-Momi Class Tsuta) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 36 (ex-Momi Class Fuji) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 37 (ex-Momi Class Hishi) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 38 (ex-Momi Class Yomogi) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 39 (ex-Momi Class Tade) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 46 (ex-Wakatake Class Yugao) =DDMinekaze
Repair Ship Akashi =MLOkinoshima
Repair Ship Asahi =MLOkinoshima
Repair Ship Yamabiko Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kamikawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kamoi =OLNippon
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kimikawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kinugasa Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kiyokawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kiyokawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kunikawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sagara Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sanuki Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sanyo Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender Akitsushima =CVSChitose
Seaplane Tender Chitose (pre-rebuild) =CVSChitose
Seaplane Tender Chiyoda (pre-rebuild) =CVSChitose
Seaplane Tender Mizuho =CVSChitose
Seaplane Tender Nisshin =CVSChitose
Subchaser Ch-1 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-10 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-11 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-12 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-13 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-14 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-15 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-2 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-25 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-26 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-27 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-28 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-29 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-3 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-33 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-4 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-5 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-6 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-7 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-8 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-9 =SCSubchaser
Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Heian Maru =KLCSNagara
Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Nagoya Maru =KLCSNagara
Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Rio de Janeiro Maru =KLCSNagara
Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Santos Maru =PLKiturin
Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Yasukuni Maru =KLCSNagara
Submarine Depot Ship Chogei =MLOkinoshima
Submarine Depot Ship Jingei =MLOkinoshima
Torpedo Boat Chidori =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Hato =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Hatsukari =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Hayabusa =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Hiyodori =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Kari =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Kasasagi =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Kiji =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Manazuru =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Otori =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Sagi =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Tomozuru =DDMutsuki
Transport Aobasan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Arabia Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Arizona Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Asakasan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Asosan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Atsutasan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Ayatosan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Borneo Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Brisbane Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Cheribon Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Chifuku Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Chile Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport China Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Clyde Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Delagoa Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Fushimi Maru =PLHorai
Transport Fuso Maru =PLHorai
Transport Hawaii Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Hayo Maru? =KMSSBiyo
Transport Hirokawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Hiyoshi Maru =KMCSHeito
Transport Hokkai Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport India Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Johore Maru =KMCSHeito
Transport Kamo Maru =PLKiturin
Transport Kamoi Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Kansai Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Kashii Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Katori Maru =PLHorai
Transport Kenkon Maru =KMCSHeito
Transport Kinka Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Kinugawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Koyu Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Kumagawa Maru? =KLCSNagara
Transport Kunitama Maru =KSSSKasagisan
Transport Kurohime Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Kuwayama Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Kyushu Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport London Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Macassar Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Matsue Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Meigen Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Mexico Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Miike Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Moji Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Myoho Maru =KMCSHeito
Transport Nagano Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Nako Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Nichiran Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Nichiryu Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Nikki Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Nojima Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Ohio Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Oigawa Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Oregon Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Oridono Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Risshun Maru =KMCSZinbu
Transport Ryoyo Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Ryuun Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Sado Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Sagami Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Sakura Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Sanko Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Sasako Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Shinai Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Shinsei Maru No. 1 =KMSSBiyo
Transport Shinshu Maru =PLHorai
Transport Shiraha Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Shunko Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Suez Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Sumatra Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Tacoma Maru =KMCSZinbu
Transport Taibun Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Takao Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Tamahoko Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Thames Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Toho Maru =KMCSHeito
Transport Toho Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Tosan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Unknown Maru (Kinkai Maru?) =KMSSBiyo
Transport Unknown Maru (Samaran Maru?) =KMCSAkita
Transport Unknown Maru (Shinkaha Maru?) =KMCSAkita
Transport Unknown Taifuku Maru No. 1 Class =KMSSBiyo
Transport Unyo Maru No. 2 =KMSSKinposan
Transport Venice Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Wakatsu Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Yamaura Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Yawata Maru =KSCSTaihosan
Transport Yokohama Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Yuri Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Zenyo Maru =KLCSNagara

tater · 06-23-07, 02:50 PM

Excellent list. I obviously only put classes in for ships other than the capital units (BBs and CVs).

Now I need to compare more thouroughly with mine

<S>

BTW, given your excellent research regarding the power output of the various uinits, I'd be very interested in seeing what you are working on, campaign wise. My current set is a Q&D stand in for what I really want to do, a total rework.

tater

nematode · 06-25-07, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

BTW, given your excellent research regarding the power output of the various uinits, I'd be very interested in seeing what you are working on, campaign wise. My current set is a Q&D stand in for what I really want to do, a total rework.

tater

Sure, check your PMs

tater · 06-25-07, 11:02 AM

This is a quick rework of nematode's list combined with mine, and grouped into Classes. The class ship is bold, if it has no "=NAME" the ship already exists in game. My only major break from nematode's list is Hiyo, she looks more like Taiho, IMO.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/taiho_c.htm
http://www.combinedfleet.com/hiyo_c.htm

I also think Yubari might be better as the DD Akizuki, the minelayer has far less weaponry, though the down side it as a DD, it will hunt you. Also, Shimakaze has to be Akizuki, not Fubuki she was over 3000 tons!

I could actually quickly make cloned versions set to be type=6 for those.

OTOH, nematode's choice of Kuma for Tenryu was clearly superior.

I haven't finished grouping the DDs, I'll edit this later. BTW, they are arranged in the large list, and within class by date, hence the odd looking order. (also because combinedfleet.com does it this way and it's easier to copy the list, lol)

Battleships
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro =BBFuso

BB Nagato =BBFuso
BB Mutsu =BBFuso

BB Kongo
BB Hiei =BBKongo
BB Kirishima =BBKongo
BB Haruna =BBKongo

BB Ise (pre-rebuild)
BB Ise (post-rebuild) =BBIse Late War
BB Huyga (post-rebuild) =BBIseConv
BB Hyuga (pre-rebuild) =BBIse

BB Yamato
BB Musashi =BBYamato

Heavy Cruisers
CA Furutaka
CA Kako =CAFurutaka
CA Aoba =CAFurutaka
CA Kinugasa =CAFurutaka

CA Myoko =CATakao
CA Ashigara =CATakao
CA Nachi =CATakao
CA Haguro =CATakao

CA Takao
CA Maya =CATakao
CA Chokai =CATakao
CA Atago =CATakao

CA Mogami (pre-rebuild) =CATakao
CA Mogami (post-rebuild) =CAMogami
CA Mikuma =CATakao
CA Suzuya =CATakao
CA Kumano =CATakao

CA Tone =CAMogami
CA Chikuma =CAMogami

Light Cruisers
CL Tenryu =CLKuma
CL Tatsuta =CLKuma

CL Kuma
CL Tama =CLKuma
CL Kitakami =CLKuma
CL Oi =CLKuma
CL Kiso =CLKuma

CL Yubari =MLOkinoshima (I might "BP-clone" Akizuki to be a CL for her instead)

CL Nagara =CLKuma
CL Isuzu =CLKuma
CL Yura =CLKuma
CL Natori =CLKuma
CL Kinu =CLKuma
CL Abukuma =CLKuma

CL Naka
CL Sendai =CLNaka
CL Jintsu =CLNaka

CL Katori =MLOkinoshima
CL Kashima =MLOkinoshima
CL Kashii =MLOkinoshima

CL Agano
CL Yahagi =CLAgano
CL Noshiro =CLAgano
CL Sakawa =CLAgano

CL Oyodo =CLAgano

Fleet Carriers
CV Akagi =CVShokaku

CV Kaga =CVShokaku

CV Soryu =CVHiryu
CV Hiryu

CV Shokaku
CV Zuikaku =CVShokaku

CV Unryu =CVHiryu
CV Amagi =CVHiryu
CV Katsuragi =CVHiryu

CV Hiyo =CVTaiho (alt Shokaku, but look at them, it looks more like Taiho IMO)
CV Junyo =CVTaiho

CV Taiho

CV Shinano =CVTaiho

CVL Chitose (post-rebuild) =CVETaiyo
CVL Chiyoda (post-rebuild) =CVETaiyo

CVL Hosho =CVETaiyo

CVL Ryujo =CVETaiyo

CVL Ryuho =CVETaiyo

CVL Shoho =CVETaiyo
CVL Zuiho =CVETaiyo

Escort Carriers
CVE Taiyo
CVE Chuyo =CVETaiyo
CVE Unyo =CVETaiyo

CVE Kaiyo =CVETaiyo
CVE Shinyo =CVETaiyo

Destroyers
Momi (Old DD)
DD Hasu (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Kuri (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Tsuga (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Sanae (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze

DD Wakatake =DDMinekaze (Old DD)
DD Asagao (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Fuyo (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Karukaya (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze
DD Kuretake (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze

DD Minekaze
DD Sawakaze =DDMinekaze
DD Okikaze =DDMinekaze
DD Hakaze =DDMinekaze
DD Yakaze =DDMinekaze
DD Akikaze =DDMinekaze
DD Shiokaze =DDMinekaze
DD Yukaze =DDMinekaze
DD Hokaze =DDMinekaze
DD Tachikaze =DDMinekaze
DD Nokaze =DDMinekaze
DD Namikaze =DDMinekaze
DD Numakaze =DDMinekaze

DD Kamikaze =DDMinekaze
DD Harukaze =DDMinekaze
DD Asakaze =DDMinekaze
DD Matsukaze =DDMinekaze
DD Yunagi =DDMinekaze
DD Hatakaze =DDMinekaze
DD Oite =DDMinekaze
DD Hayate =DDMinekaze
DD Asanagi =DDMinekaze

DD Mutsuki
DD Fumizuki =DDMutsuki
DD Kikuzuki =DDMutsuki
DD Kisaragi =DDMutsuki
DD Mikazuki =DDMutsuki
DD Minazuki =DDMutsuki
DD Mochizuki =DDMutsuki
DD Nagatsuki =DDMutsuki
DD Satsuki =DDMutsuki
DD Uzuki =DDMutsuki
DD Yayoi =DDMutsuki
DD Yuzuki =DDMutsuki

DD Fubuki
DD Shirayuki =DDFubuki
DD Hatsuyuki =DDFubuki
DD Murakumo =DDFubuki
DD Shinonome =DDFubuki
DD Usugumo =DDFubuki
DD Shirakumo =DDFubuki
DD Isonami =DDFubuki
DD Uranami =DDFubuki
DD Ayanami =DDFubuki
DD Shikinami =DDFubuki
DD Asagiri =DDFubuki
DD Yugiri =DDFubuki
DD Amagiri =DDFubuki
DD Sagiri =DDFubuki
DD Oboro =DDFubuki
DD Akebono =DDFubuki
DD Sazanami =DDFubuki
DD Ushio =DDFubuki

DD Akatsuki =DDFubuki
DD Hibiki =DDFubuki
DD Ikazuchi =DDFubuki
DD Inazuma =DDFubuki

DD Hatsuharu =DDShiratsuyu
DD Ariake =DDShiratsuyu
DD Hatsushimo =DDShiratsuyu
DD Nenohi =DDShiratsuyu
DD Wakaba =DDShiratsuyu
DD Yugure =DDShiratsuyu
DD Harusame =DDShiratsuyu

DD Shiratsuyu
DD Shigure =DDShiratsuyu
DD Murasame =DDShiratsuyu
DD Yudachi =DDShiratsuyu
DD Samidare =DDShiratsuyu
DD Yamakaze =DDShiratsuyu
DD Kawakaze =DDShiratsuyu
DD Umikaze =DDShiratsuyu
DD Suzukaze =DDShiratsuyu

DD Asashio
DD Oshio =DDAsashio
DD Michishio =DDAsashio
DD Arashio =DDAsashio
DD Natsugumo =DDAsashio
DD Yamagumo =DDAsashio
DD Minegumo =DDAsashio
DD Asagumo =DDAsashio
DD Arare =DDAsashio
DD Kasumi =DDAsashio

DD Kagero =DDAsashio
DD Kuroshio =DDAsashio
DD Oyashio =DDAsashio
DD Hatsukaze =DDAsashio
DD Natsushio =DDAsashio
DD Yukikaze =DDAsashio
DD Hayashio =DDAsashio
DD Maikaze =DDAsashio
DD Isokaze =DDAsashio
DD Shiranuhi =DDAsashio
DD Amatsukaze =DDAsashio
DD Tokitsukaze =DDAsashio
DD Urakaze =DDAsashio
DD Hamakaze =DDAsashio
DD Nowaki =DDAsashio
DD Arashi =DDAsashio
DD Hagikaze =DDAsashio
DD Tanikaze =DDAsashio
DD Akigumo =DDAsashio

DD Yugumo =DDAsashio
DD Kazagumo =DDAsashio
DD Makigumo =DDAsashio
DD Makinami =DDAsashio
DD Takanami =DDAsashio
DD Naganami =DDAsashio
DD Tamanami =DDAsashio
DD Suzunami =DDAsashio
DD Onami =DDAsashio
DD Fujinami =DDAsashio
DD Kishinami =DDAsashio
DD Hayanami =DDAsashio
DD Kiyonami =DDAsashio
DD Okinami =DDAsashio
DD Hamanami =DDAsashio
DD Asashimo =DDAsashio
DD Kiyoshimo =DDAsashio
DD Hayashimo =DDAsashio
DD Akishimo =DDAsashio

DD Akizuki
DD Teruzuki =DDAkizuki
DD Suzutsuki =DDAkizuki
DD Hatsuzuki =DDAkizuki
DD Niizuki =DDAkizuki
DD Wakatsuki =DDAkizuki
DD Shimotsuki =DDAkizuki
DD Fuyuzuki =DDAkizuki
DD Hanazuki =DDAkizuki
DD Yoizuki =DDAkizuki
DD Haruzuki =DDAkizuki
DD Natsuzuki =DDAkizuki

DD Shimakaze =DDAkizuki

DD(E) Matsu =DDMutsuki ? Hard to do this guy.

Patrol Boats (ex-DDs)
Patrol Boat No. 1 (ex-Minekaze Class Shimakaze) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 2 (ex-Minekaze Class Nadakaze) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 31 (ex-Momi Class Kiku) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 32 (ex-Momi Class Aoi) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 33 (ex-Momi Class Hagi) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 34 (ex-Momi Class Suzuki) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 35 (ex-Momi Class Tsuta) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 36 (ex-Momi Class Fuji) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 37 (ex-Momi Class Hishi) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 38 (ex-Momi Class Yomogi) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 39 (ex-Momi Class Tade) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 46 (ex-Wakatake Class Yugao) =DDMinekaze
Patrol Boat No. 102 (ex-Clemson Class, USS Stewart) =DDClemson

Fleet Oilers
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Akebono Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Genyo Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Itsukushima Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kenyo Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kokuyo Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kyokuto Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Nichiei Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Nippon Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Shinkoku Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Toei Maru =OLNippon
Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Toho Maru =OLNippon

Gunboat (Auxiliary) Nagata Maru =KMSSKinposan

Hospital Ship Naminoue Maru =PLKiturin

Kaibokan Hachijo =MSNO13
Kaibokan Ishigaki =MSNO13
Kaibokan Kunashiri =MSNO13
Kaibokan Shimushu =MSNO13
Kaibokan Shimushu =MSNO13

Minelayer (Auxiliary) Tenyo Maru =KLCSNagara
Minelayer Itsukushima =MSNO13
Minelayer Kamone =SCSubchaser
Minelayer Okinoshima =MLOkinoshima
Minelayer Shirataka =MSNO13
Minelayer Tsubame =SCSubchaser
Minelayer Tsugaru =MLOkinoshima
Minelayer Yaeyama =MSNO13

Minesweeper W-1 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-10 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-11 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-13 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-14 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-15 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-16 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-17 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-18 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-19 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-2 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-3 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-4 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-5 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-6 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-7 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-8 =MSNO13
Minesweeper W-9 =MSNO13

Netlayer Hatsutaka =DDMinekaze

Repair Ship Akashi =MLOkinoshima
Repair Ship Asahi =MLOkinoshima
Repair Ship Yamabiko Maru =KLCSNagara

Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kamoi =OLNippon
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Natoro =OLNippon

Kamikawa Maru
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kamikawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kimikawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kiyokawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kunikawa Maru =KLCSNagara

Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kinugasa Maru =KLCSNagara

Sakitu Maru Class (converted to transports in 1942)
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sagara Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sanuki Maru =KLCSNagara

Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sanyo Maru =KLCSNagara
Seaplane Tender Akitsushima =CVSChitose

Seaplane Tender Chitose (pre-rebuild) =CVSChitose
Seaplane Tender Chiyoda (pre-rebuild) =CVSChitose
Seaplane Tender Mizuho =CVSChitose
Seaplane Tender Nisshin =CVSChitose

Subchasers
Subchaser Ch-1 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-10 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-11 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-12 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-13 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-14 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-15 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-2 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-25 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-26 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-27 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-28 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-29 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-3 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-33 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-4 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-5 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-6 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-7 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-8 =SCSubchaser
Subchaser Ch-9 =SCSubchaser

Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Heian Maru =KLCSNagara
Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Nagoya Maru =KLCSNagara
Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Rio de Janeiro Maru =KLCSNagara
Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Santos Maru =PLKiturin
Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Yasukuni Maru =KLCSNagara

Submarine Depot Ship Chogei =MLOkinoshima
Submarine Depot Ship Jingei =MLOkinoshima

Torpedo Boat Chidori =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Hato =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Hatsukari =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Hayabusa =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Hiyodori =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Kari =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Kasasagi =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Kiji =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Manazuru =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Otori =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Sagi =DDMutsuki
Torpedo Boat Tomozuru =DDMutsuki

XPCs:
Armed Trawler will work (I have one made with japanese crew and weapons ready to go).
Armed Tug will work (I have this as well).

IJ ARMY "Carriers" Really "plane ferries." (these should all be reset to zero air groups since planes flew off ONCE to land bases)
Nigicu Maru = Akitsu Maru
Shimane Maru = Akitsu Maru
Otakisan Maru = Akitsu Maru
Yamashiro Maru = Akitsu Maru
Chigusa Maru = Akitsu Maru
Kumano Maru = Akitsu Maru

On the Armed Merchant Cruisers below, couldn't we use the German Aux Cruiser (NAMC in the Sea folder)? All we need do is add it to the roster. http://www.combinedfleet.com/Tokusetsu%20Junyokan!.htm
Of course the NAMC is about half the size of a real armed merchant cruiser.

Armed Merchant Cruiser Aikoku Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Akagi Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Awata Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Hokoku Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Kinryu Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Kiyosumi Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Kongo Maru =KLCSNagara
Armed Merchant Cruiser Noshiro Maru =KLCSNagara

Transport Aobasan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Arabia Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Arizona Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Asakasan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Asosan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Atsutasan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Ayatosan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Borneo Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Brisbane Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Cheribon Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Chifuku Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Chile Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport China Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Clyde Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Delagoa Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Fushimi Maru =PLHorai
Transport Fuso Maru =PLHorai
Transport Hawaii Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Hayo Maru? =KMSSBiyo
Transport Hirokawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Hiyoshi Maru =KMCSHeito
Transport Hokkai Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport India Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Johore Maru =KMCSHeito
Transport Kamo Maru =PLKiturin
Transport Kamoi Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Kansai Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Kashii Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Katori Maru =PLHorai
Transport Kenkon Maru =KMCSHeito
Transport Kinka Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Kinugawa Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Koyu Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Kumagawa Maru? =KLCSNagara
Transport Kunitama Maru =KSSSKasagisan
Transport Kurohime Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Kuwayama Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Kyushu Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport London Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Macassar Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Matsue Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Meigen Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Mexico Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Miike Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Moji Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Myoho Maru =KMCSHeito
Transport Nagano Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Nako Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Nichiran Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Nichiryu Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Nikki Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Nojima Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Ohio Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Oigawa Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Oregon Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Oridono Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Risshun Maru =KMCSZinbu
Transport Ryoyo Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Ryuun Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Sado Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Sagami Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Sakura Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Sanko Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Sasako Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Shinai Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Shinsei Maru No. 1 =KMSSBiyo
Transport Shinshu Maru =PLHorai
Transport Shiraha Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Shunko Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Suez Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Sumatra Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Tacoma Maru =KMCSZinbu
Transport Taibun Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Takao Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Tamahoko Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Thames Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Toho Maru =KMCSHeito
Transport Toho Maru =KMCSAkita
Transport Tosan Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Unknown Maru (Kinkai Maru?) =KMSSBiyo
Transport Unknown Maru (Samaran Maru?) =KMCSAkita
Transport Unknown Maru (Shinkaha Maru?) =KMCSAkita
Transport Unknown Taifuku Maru No. 1 Class =KMSSBiyo
Transport Unyo Maru No. 2 =KMSSKinposan
Transport Venice Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Wakatsu Maru =KMSSBiyo
Transport Yamaura Maru =KLCSNagara
Transport Yawata Maru =KSCSTaihosan
Transport Yokohama Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Yuri Maru =KLSSHakusika
Transport Zenyo Maru =KLCSNagara

nematode · 06-25-07, 11:19 PM

>also think Yubari might be better as the DD Akizuki, the minelayer has far less weaponry, though the down side it as a DD, it will hunt you.

Hehe yeah, the DD ai could make things wierd for a Yubari. For example 1st Wake invasion, Yubari was flagship of the force that was slapped around by the US Marine shore batteries. I wouldn't want the flagship to be peeling off to hunt a sub at that moment

But seriously there isn't any obvious, great fit for Yubari in the SH4 ship pool, any choice is gonna have to be a compromise.

I went with Okinoshima as a fit for Yubari on tonnage, AI role, general appearance, everything except top speed, and guns, and its lack of guns is a bug. At some point in the SH4 patch sequence, Okinoshima's guns dissapeared. I assume its simply a matter of putting stuff back into its config files.

>Also, Shimakaze has to be Akizuki, not Fubuki she was over 3000 tons!

When I was thinking thru the substitution for Shimakaze, I was focusing on its 39knot speed, so that's how I came by Fubuki and its 38kts as a substitute. Tonnage wise, agreed, Akizuki is a better fit.

>DD(E) Matsu =DDMutsuki ? Hard to do this guy.

Yeah, I don't have the slightest idea on a good substitute for Matsu. There really isn't one in the pool. I think I'm holding out hope that someday someone will model one.

>On the Armed Merchant Cruisers below, couldn't we use the German Aux Cruiser
>(NAMC in the Sea folder)? All we need do is add it to the roster.

That's a good idea. That would produce a working AMC pending availability of a kitbashed KLCSNagara with guns (which was what Kongo Maru, Kiyosumi Maru, Akagi Maru, Awata Maru, Kinryu Maru and Noshiro Maru basically were) or an 11k ton Aikoku Maru class vessel, attractive armed to the teeth converted passenger cargo liners, which I doubt we will ever see in SH4 but I remember them fondly from SH1.

NAMC would also be a good candidate for a kitbash to make another maru, for example aux sub tenders Rio de Janerio Maru or Heian Maru, also the Hikawa Maru which somehow amazingly survived and is a tourist attraction in Yokohama.

tater · 06-25-07, 11:34 PM

http://mpgtext.net/subshare/357AMC.rar

There's the AMC as a JSGME mod (added to roster).

I don't grok the 3d modding, or I'd already be workign on coastal shipping like sea trucks and fox tare dogs, sugar baker sugars, etc, lol.

Good point on Yubari though.

I can see Fubuki even on looks, too. Tough call. The speed didn't bother me since once it's faster than a fleet boat, it really doesn't matter much for SH4, I won't be doing any end-arounds on her if she's making 33 knots, or 39

tater

tater · 06-25-07, 11:41 PM

BTW, I used the mod based on your research (ship HP) as a base, and upped the OLNippon's top speed to 19 knots (was set to 12 I think). That makes it a more attractive fleet oiler.

tater · 06-26-07, 12:05 AM

<G>

tater

nematode · 06-26-07, 01:23 AM

Agreed

tater · 06-26-07, 07:53 AM

Heheh. Awesome. I have a pile of stuff I need to scan out of japanese model magazines by a guy who apparently scratch built a large % of their merchant marine

tater

tater · 07-27-07, 05:37 PM

I'm in the process of modding in an armed fishing boat or 2, the armed trawler of the allies as a japanese craft (complete with DCs though it tends to blow the rack off set shallow). There is also an allied fishing boat (wood) that can be armed after a fashion (AA). It will fill in for the very small subchasers in harbors, even if it only fires guns.

One nice addition ducimus made was to up the lost contact time. This gives nearby ships a larger radius in which to react. In this way, a small SC, even if unarmed for attacking a submerged sub, can radio the position and if there is a "real" ASW asset within 30 minutes they will come. All it needs is a hydrophone.

While I tend towards keeping the AI mods pretty vanilla when thinking about stuff like this list, certain capabilities can make some marginal substitutions better.

tater

tater · 09-03-07, 01:09 PM

I've been looking at making an eqp bash for Nagato and I actually think Ise might be a better match for her than Fuso.

Fuso's pagoda is so unique, and the superstructure just aft of it is more built up in Nagato and Ise. The eqp bash would remove the P and Q turrets, and change A, B, X, and Y to dual 16" turrets.

BTW. I have an eqp bash for Yagumo (no changes other than radar from Asashio, but she'd show up as "Yagumo"). I also have a bash for the Kaibokans (pretty generic, it's Evarts with jap weaponry).

The "Bungo Pete" style of cloning has the advantage of not creating any more loading issues for the game since they share dats.

miner1436 · 04-16-08, 10:27 PM

bump, import/export 3D model feature for S3D is up.

06-19-08, 08:35 PM

bump

06-20-07, 03:25 PM	#1
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Suggested IJN ship substitution list Posted this in another forum, thought it might be useful. Here's a list of ships that are NOT in SH4, and which extant SH4 classes should be used to substitute for them. The ship NOT in SH4 is on the left, the suggested replacement on the right. Number in parenthesis is the number in the class if I put it there at all. Obviously, open to suggestion for changes. CV(L) (distinction between CV/CVL in IJN is hard) Akagi = Shokaku (cause it's big) Kaga = Shokaku (cause it's big) Unryo = Hiryu (which should be called "Soryu" Class, but isn't, but that's another thread) Amagi= Hiryu Katsuragi= Hiryu Hiyo = Taiho? Junyo = Taiho? CVL/E Shoho = Taiyo Zuiho = Taiyo Ryuho = Taiyo Hosho = Taiyo Shinyo = Taiyo Kaiyo = Taiyo Chiotse (after january 1944 when she was converted to a CVE) = Taiyo Chiyoda (after Dec '43 CVE conversion) = Taiyo (note I exclusively used Taiyo as a CVE(L) for aesthetic reasons vs Akitsu Maru) IJ ARMY "Carriers" Really "plane ferries." (these should all be reset to zero air groups since planes flew off ONCE to land bases) Nigicu Maru = Akitsu Maru Shimane Maru = Akitsu Maru Otakisan Maru = Akitsu Maru Yamashiro Maru = Akitsu Maru Chigusa Maru = Akitsu Maru Kumano Maru = Akitsu Maru BB Nagato = Fuso (?) Mutsu = Fuso (?) CA Myoko Class (4) = Takao Mogami Class in game need to have early war version bashed. Maya maybe if you want pre-Midway. Tone Class (2) = Mogami? (needs a bash, badly) CL Oyodo (Class ship was only ship) = Agano Nagara Class (6) = Kuma Tenryu Class (2) = Naka Yubari (1)= Akizuki DD? (she was only 3500 tons) Katori Class (3) = Large Minelayer? (Katoris were training CLs that made all of 18 knots. A real POS.) DD Kamikaze Class (9) = Minekaze (was improved version) Akatsuki Class (4) = Fubuki (visually similar, not sure but looks like improved Fubuki) Hatsuharu Class (6) = Shiratsuyu (looks like Shiratsuyu was maybe an improved Hatsuharu) Kagero Class (19) = Asashio (Kagero was an improved Asashio, visually almost identical) Yugumo Class (19) = Asashio (Yugumo was an improved Kagero) Shimakaze (1) = Akizuki DE (not a really an IJN distinction, Matsu was really a small DD) Matsu Class (32) = ? (use Mutsuki, but limit speed to 28 knots max) PC (subchaser (different than the in-game one! 64 built total) Sub CH-13 for all right now. Kaibokan* Sorely lacking, they are 2x CH-13 in size, 1/2 Minekaze's size. No idea. needs a bash. Best idea is either a cloned Minesweeper, a bash, or resetting Minesweepers to be "patrol" boats so they will act like escorts. AVA Bash of fleet oiler needed for these. Last edited by tater; 06-21-07 at 11:37 AM.

06-25-07, 11:02 AM	#5
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	This is a quick rework of nematode's list combined with mine, and grouped into Classes. The class ship is bold, if it has no "=NAME" the ship already exists in game. My only major break from nematode's list is Hiyo, she looks more like Taiho, IMO. http://www.combinedfleet.com/taiho_c.htm http://www.combinedfleet.com/hiyo_c.htm I also think Yubari might be better as the DD Akizuki, the minelayer has far less weaponry, though the down side it as a DD, it will hunt you. Also, Shimakaze has to be Akizuki, not Fubuki she was over 3000 tons! I could actually quickly make cloned versions set to be type=6 for those. OTOH, nematode's choice of Kuma for Tenryu was clearly superior. I haven't finished grouping the DDs, I'll edit this later. BTW, they are arranged in the large list, and within class by date, hence the odd looking order. (also because combinedfleet.com does it this way and it's easier to copy the list, lol) Battleships BB Fuso BB Yamashiro =BBFuso BB Nagato =BBFuso BB Mutsu =BBFuso BB Kongo BB Hiei =BBKongo BB Kirishima =BBKongo BB Haruna =BBKongo BB Ise (pre-rebuild) BB Ise (post-rebuild) =BBIse Late War BB Huyga (post-rebuild) =BBIseConv BB Hyuga (pre-rebuild) =BBIse BB Yamato BB Musashi =BBYamato Heavy Cruisers CA Furutaka CA Kako =CAFurutaka CA Aoba =CAFurutaka CA Kinugasa =CAFurutaka CA Myoko =CATakao CA Ashigara =CATakao CA Nachi =CATakao CA Haguro =CATakao CA Takao CA Maya =CATakao CA Chokai =CATakao CA Atago =CATakao CA Mogami (pre-rebuild) =CATakao CA Mogami (post-rebuild) =CAMogami CA Mikuma =CATakao CA Suzuya =CATakao CA Kumano =CATakao CA Tone =CAMogami CA Chikuma =CAMogami Light Cruisers CL Tenryu =CLKuma CL Tatsuta =CLKuma CL Kuma CL Tama =CLKuma CL Kitakami =CLKuma CL Oi =CLKuma CL Kiso =CLKuma CL Yubari =MLOkinoshima (I might "BP-clone" Akizuki to be a CL for her instead) CL Nagara =CLKuma CL Isuzu =CLKuma CL Yura =CLKuma CL Natori =CLKuma CL Kinu =CLKuma CL Abukuma =CLKuma CL Naka CL Sendai =CLNaka CL Jintsu =CLNaka CL Katori =MLOkinoshima CL Kashima =MLOkinoshima CL Kashii =MLOkinoshima CL Agano CL Yahagi =CLAgano CL Noshiro =CLAgano CL Sakawa =CLAgano CL Oyodo =CLAgano Fleet Carriers CV Akagi =CVShokaku CV Kaga =CVShokaku CV Soryu =CVHiryu CV Hiryu CV Shokaku CV Zuikaku =CVShokaku CV Unryu =CVHiryu CV Amagi =CVHiryu CV Katsuragi =CVHiryu CV Hiyo =CVTaiho (alt Shokaku, but look at them, it looks more like Taiho IMO) CV Junyo =CVTaiho CV Taiho CV Shinano =CVTaiho CVL Chitose (post-rebuild) =CVETaiyo CVL Chiyoda (post-rebuild) =CVETaiyo CVL Hosho =CVETaiyo CVL Ryujo =CVETaiyo CVL Ryuho =CVETaiyo CVL Shoho =CVETaiyo CVL Zuiho =CVETaiyo Escort Carriers CVE Taiyo CVE Chuyo =CVETaiyo CVE Unyo =CVETaiyo CVE Kaiyo =CVETaiyo CVE Shinyo =CVETaiyo Destroyers Momi (Old DD) DD Hasu (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze DD Kuri (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze DD Tsuga (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze DD Sanae (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze DD Wakatake =DDMinekaze (Old DD) DD Asagao (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze DD Fuyo (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze DD Karukaya (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze DD Kuretake (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze DD Minekaze DD Sawakaze =DDMinekaze DD Okikaze =DDMinekaze DD Hakaze =DDMinekaze DD Yakaze =DDMinekaze DD Akikaze =DDMinekaze DD Shiokaze =DDMinekaze DD Yukaze =DDMinekaze DD Hokaze =DDMinekaze DD Tachikaze =DDMinekaze DD Nokaze =DDMinekaze DD Namikaze =DDMinekaze DD Numakaze =DDMinekaze DD Kamikaze =DDMinekaze DD Harukaze =DDMinekaze DD Asakaze =DDMinekaze DD Matsukaze =DDMinekaze DD Yunagi =DDMinekaze DD Hatakaze =DDMinekaze DD Oite =DDMinekaze DD Hayate =DDMinekaze DD Asanagi =DDMinekaze DD Mutsuki DD Fumizuki =DDMutsuki DD Kikuzuki =DDMutsuki DD Kisaragi =DDMutsuki DD Mikazuki =DDMutsuki DD Minazuki =DDMutsuki DD Mochizuki =DDMutsuki DD Nagatsuki =DDMutsuki DD Satsuki =DDMutsuki DD Uzuki =DDMutsuki DD Yayoi =DDMutsuki DD Yuzuki =DDMutsuki DD Fubuki DD Shirayuki =DDFubuki DD Hatsuyuki =DDFubuki DD Murakumo =DDFubuki DD Shinonome =DDFubuki DD Usugumo =DDFubuki DD Shirakumo =DDFubuki DD Isonami =DDFubuki DD Uranami =DDFubuki DD Ayanami =DDFubuki DD Shikinami =DDFubuki DD Asagiri =DDFubuki DD Yugiri =DDFubuki DD Amagiri =DDFubuki DD Sagiri =DDFubuki DD Oboro =DDFubuki DD Akebono =DDFubuki DD Sazanami =DDFubuki DD Ushio =DDFubuki DD Akatsuki =DDFubuki DD Hibiki =DDFubuki DD Ikazuchi =DDFubuki DD Inazuma =DDFubuki DD Hatsuharu =DDShiratsuyu DD Ariake =DDShiratsuyu DD Hatsushimo =DDShiratsuyu DD Nenohi =DDShiratsuyu DD Wakaba =DDShiratsuyu DD Yugure =DDShiratsuyu DD Harusame =DDShiratsuyu DD Shiratsuyu DD Shigure =DDShiratsuyu DD Murasame =DDShiratsuyu DD Yudachi =DDShiratsuyu DD Samidare =DDShiratsuyu DD Yamakaze =DDShiratsuyu DD Kawakaze =DDShiratsuyu DD Umikaze =DDShiratsuyu DD Suzukaze =DDShiratsuyu DD Asashio DD Oshio =DDAsashio DD Michishio =DDAsashio DD Arashio =DDAsashio DD Natsugumo =DDAsashio DD Yamagumo =DDAsashio DD Minegumo =DDAsashio DD Asagumo =DDAsashio DD Arare =DDAsashio DD Kasumi =DDAsashio DD Kagero =DDAsashio DD Kuroshio =DDAsashio DD Oyashio =DDAsashio DD Hatsukaze =DDAsashio DD Natsushio =DDAsashio DD Yukikaze =DDAsashio DD Hayashio =DDAsashio DD Maikaze =DDAsashio DD Isokaze =DDAsashio DD Shiranuhi =DDAsashio DD Amatsukaze =DDAsashio DD Tokitsukaze =DDAsashio DD Urakaze =DDAsashio DD Hamakaze =DDAsashio DD Nowaki =DDAsashio DD Arashi =DDAsashio DD Hagikaze =DDAsashio DD Tanikaze =DDAsashio DD Akigumo =DDAsashio DD Yugumo =DDAsashio DD Kazagumo =DDAsashio DD Makigumo =DDAsashio DD Makinami =DDAsashio DD Takanami =DDAsashio DD Naganami =DDAsashio DD Tamanami =DDAsashio DD Suzunami =DDAsashio DD Onami =DDAsashio DD Fujinami =DDAsashio DD Kishinami =DDAsashio DD Hayanami =DDAsashio DD Kiyonami =DDAsashio DD Okinami =DDAsashio DD Hamanami =DDAsashio DD Asashimo =DDAsashio DD Kiyoshimo =DDAsashio DD Hayashimo =DDAsashio DD Akishimo =DDAsashio DD Akizuki DD Teruzuki =DDAkizuki DD Suzutsuki =DDAkizuki DD Hatsuzuki =DDAkizuki DD Niizuki =DDAkizuki DD Wakatsuki =DDAkizuki DD Shimotsuki =DDAkizuki DD Fuyuzuki =DDAkizuki DD Hanazuki =DDAkizuki DD Yoizuki =DDAkizuki DD Haruzuki =DDAkizuki DD Natsuzuki =DDAkizuki DD Shimakaze =DDAkizuki DD(E) Matsu =DDMutsuki ? Hard to do this guy. Patrol Boats (ex-DDs) Patrol Boat No. 1 (ex-Minekaze Class Shimakaze) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 2 (ex-Minekaze Class Nadakaze) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 31 (ex-Momi Class Kiku) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 32 (ex-Momi Class Aoi) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 33 (ex-Momi Class Hagi) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 34 (ex-Momi Class Suzuki) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 35 (ex-Momi Class Tsuta) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 36 (ex-Momi Class Fuji) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 37 (ex-Momi Class Hishi) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 38 (ex-Momi Class Yomogi) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 39 (ex-Momi Class Tade) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 46 (ex-Wakatake Class Yugao) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 102 (ex-Clemson Class, USS Stewart) =DDClemson Fleet Oilers Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Akebono Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Genyo Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Itsukushima Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kenyo Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kokuyo Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kyokuto Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Nichiei Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Nippon Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Shinkoku Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Toei Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Toho Maru =OLNippon Gunboat (Auxiliary) Nagata Maru =KMSSKinposan Hospital Ship Naminoue Maru =PLKiturin Kaibokan Hachijo =MSNO13 Kaibokan Ishigaki =MSNO13 Kaibokan Kunashiri =MSNO13 Kaibokan Shimushu =MSNO13 Kaibokan Shimushu =MSNO13 Minelayer (Auxiliary) Tenyo Maru =KLCSNagara Minelayer Itsukushima =MSNO13 Minelayer Kamone =SCSubchaser Minelayer Okinoshima =MLOkinoshima Minelayer Shirataka =MSNO13 Minelayer Tsubame =SCSubchaser Minelayer Tsugaru =MLOkinoshima Minelayer Yaeyama =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-1 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-10 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-11 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-13 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-14 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-15 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-16 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-17 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-18 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-19 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-2 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-3 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-4 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-5 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-6 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-7 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-8 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-9 =MSNO13 Netlayer Hatsutaka =DDMinekaze Repair Ship Akashi =MLOkinoshima Repair Ship Asahi =MLOkinoshima Repair Ship Yamabiko Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kamoi =OLNippon Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Natoro =OLNippon Kamikawa Maru Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kamikawa Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kimikawa Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kiyokawa Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kunikawa Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kinugasa Maru =KLCSNagara Sakitu Maru Class (converted to transports in 1942) Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sagara Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sanuki Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sanyo Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender Akitsushima =CVSChitose Seaplane Tender Chitose (pre-rebuild) =CVSChitose Seaplane Tender Chiyoda (pre-rebuild) =CVSChitose Seaplane Tender Mizuho =CVSChitose Seaplane Tender Nisshin =CVSChitose Subchasers Subchaser Ch-1 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-10 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-11 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-12 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-13 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-14 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-15 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-2 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-25 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-26 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-27 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-28 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-29 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-3 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-33 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-4 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-5 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-6 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-7 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-8 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-9 =SCSubchaser Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Heian Maru =KLCSNagara Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Nagoya Maru =KLCSNagara Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Rio de Janeiro Maru =KLCSNagara Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Santos Maru =PLKiturin Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Yasukuni Maru =KLCSNagara Submarine Depot Ship Chogei =MLOkinoshima Submarine Depot Ship Jingei =MLOkinoshima Torpedo Boat Chidori =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Hato =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Hatsukari =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Hayabusa =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Hiyodori =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Kari =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Kasasagi =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Kiji =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Manazuru =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Otori =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Sagi =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Tomozuru =DDMutsuki XPCs: Armed Trawler will work (I have one made with japanese crew and weapons ready to go). Armed Tug will work (I have this as well). IJ ARMY "Carriers" Really "plane ferries." (these should all be reset to zero air groups since planes flew off ONCE to land bases) Nigicu Maru = Akitsu Maru Shimane Maru = Akitsu Maru Otakisan Maru = Akitsu Maru Yamashiro Maru = Akitsu Maru Chigusa Maru = Akitsu Maru Kumano Maru = Akitsu Maru On the Armed Merchant Cruisers below, couldn't we use the German Aux Cruiser (NAMC in the Sea folder)? All we need do is add it to the roster. http://www.combinedfleet.com/Tokusetsu%20Junyokan!.htm Of course the NAMC is about half the size of a real armed merchant cruiser. Armed Merchant Cruiser Aikoku Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Akagi Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Awata Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Hokoku Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Kinryu Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Kiyosumi Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Kongo Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Noshiro Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Aobasan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Arabia Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Arizona Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Asakasan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Asosan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Atsutasan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Ayatosan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Borneo Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Brisbane Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Cheribon Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Chifuku Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Chile Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport China Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Clyde Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Delagoa Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Fushimi Maru =PLHorai Transport Fuso Maru =PLHorai Transport Hawaii Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Hayo Maru? =KMSSBiyo Transport Hirokawa Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Hiyoshi Maru =KMCSHeito Transport Hokkai Maru =KLCSNagara Transport India Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Johore Maru =KMCSHeito Transport Kamo Maru =PLKiturin Transport Kamoi Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Kansai Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Kashii Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Katori Maru =PLHorai Transport Kenkon Maru =KMCSHeito Transport Kinka Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Kinugawa Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Koyu Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Kumagawa Maru? =KLCSNagara Transport Kunitama Maru =KSSSKasagisan Transport Kurohime Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Kuwayama Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Kyushu Maru =KLCSNagara Transport London Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Macassar Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Matsue Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Meigen Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Mexico Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Miike Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Moji Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Myoho Maru =KMCSHeito Transport Nagano Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Nako Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Nichiran Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Nichiryu Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Nikki Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Nojima Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Ohio Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Oigawa Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Oregon Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Oridono Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Risshun Maru =KMCSZinbu Transport Ryoyo Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Ryuun Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Sado Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Sagami Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Sakura Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Sanko Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Sasako Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Shinai Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Shinsei Maru No. 1 =KMSSBiyo Transport Shinshu Maru =PLHorai Transport Shiraha Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Shunko Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Suez Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Sumatra Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Tacoma Maru =KMCSZinbu Transport Taibun Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Takao Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Tamahoko Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Thames Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Toho Maru =KMCSHeito Transport Toho Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Tosan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Unknown Maru (Kinkai Maru?) =KMSSBiyo Transport Unknown Maru (Samaran Maru?) =KMCSAkita Transport Unknown Maru (Shinkaha Maru?) =KMCSAkita Transport Unknown Taifuku Maru No. 1 Class =KMSSBiyo Transport Unyo Maru No. 2 =KMSSKinposan Transport Venice Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Wakatsu Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Yamaura Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Yawata Maru =KSCSTaihosan Transport Yokohama Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Yuri Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Zenyo Maru =KLCSNagara Last edited by tater; 08-20-07 at 10:23 AM.

06-23-07, 01:45 PM	#2
nematode Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 40 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	That's pretty close to the list of substitutes that I'm using. Here's a list of ships that I've added to my layers, and the SH4 models I use for them. Quite a few of them are placeholders, like where I use KLCSNagara or MLOkinoshima to stand in for a bunch of different stuff. If someday someone comes out with some models, I can do a global replace for them in the mis files. Armed Merchant Cruiser Aikoku Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Akagi Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Awata Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Hokoku Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Kinryu Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Kiyosumi Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Kongo Maru =KLCSNagara Armed Merchant Cruiser Noshiro Maru =KLCSNagara BB Fuso =BBFuso BB Haruna =BBKongo BB Hiei =BBKongo BB Huyga (post-rebuild) =BBIseConv BB Hyuga (pre-rebuild) =BBIse BB Ise (post-rebuild) =BBIseConv BB Ise (pre-rebuild) =BBIse BB Kirishima =BBKongo BB Kongo =BBKongo BB Musashi =BBYamato BB Mutsu =BBFuso BB Nagato =BBFuso BB Yamashiro =BBFuso BB Yamato =BBYamato CA Aoba =CAFurutaka CA Ashigara =CATakao CA Atago =CATakao CA Chikuma =CAMogami CA Chokai =CATakao CA Furutaka =CAFurutaka CA Haguro =CATakao CA Kako =CAFurutaka CA Kinugasa =CAFurutaka CA Kumano =CATakao CA Maya =CATakao CA Mikuma =CATakao CA Mogami (post-rebuild) =CAMogami CA Mogami (pre-rebuild) =CATakao CA Myoko =CATakao CA Nachi =CATakao CA Suzuya =CATakao CA Takao =CATakao CA Tone =CAMogami CL Abukuma =CLKuma CL Agano =CLAgano CL Isuzu =CLKuma CL Jintsu =CLNaka CL Kashii =MLOkinoshima CL Kashima =MLOkinoshima CL Katori =MLOkinoshima CL Kinu =CLKuma CL Kiso =CLKuma CL Kitakami =CLKuma CL Kuma =CLKuma CL Nagara =CLKuma CL Naka =CLNaka CL Natori =CLKuma CL Noshiro =CLAgano CL Oi =CLKuma CL Oyodo =CLAgano CL Sakawa =CLAgano CL Sendai =CLNaka CL Tama =CLKuma CL Tatsuta =CLKuma CL Tenryu =CLKuma CL Yahagi =CLAgano CL Yubari =MLOkinoshima CL Yura =CLKuma CV Akagi =CVShokaku CV Amagi =CVHiryu CV Hiryu =CVHiryu CV Hiyo =CVShokaku CV Junyo =CVShokaku CV Kaga =CVShokaku CV Katsuragi =CVHiryu CV Shinano =CVTaiho CV Shokaku =CVShokaku CV Soryu =CVHiryu CV Taiho =CVTaiho CV Unryu =CVHiryu CV Zuikaku =CVShokaku CVE Chuyo =CVETaiyo CVE Kaiyo =CVETaiyo CVE Shinyo =CVETaiyo CVE Taiyo =CVETaiyo CVE Unyo =CVETaiyo CVL Chitose (post-rebuild) =CVETaiyo CVL Chiyoda (post-rebuild) =CVETaiyo CVL Hosho =CVETaiyo CVL Ryuho =CVETaiyo CVL Ryujo =CVETaiyo CVL Shoho =CVETaiyo CVL Zuiho =CVETaiyo DD Akatsuki =DDFubuki DD Akebono =DDFubuki DD Akigumo =DDAsashio DD Akikaze =DDMinekaze DD Akishimo =DDAsashio DD Akizuki =DDAkizuki DD Amagiri =DDFubuki DD Amatsukaze =DDAsashio DD Arare =DDAsashio DD Arashi =DDAsashio DD Arashio =DDAsashio DD Ariake =DDShiratsuyu DD Asagao (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze DD Asagiri =DDFubuki DD Asagumo =DDAsashio DD Asakaze =DDMinekaze DD Asanagi =DDMinekaze DD Asanagi =DDMinekaze DD Asashimo =DDAsashio DD Asashio =DDAsashio DD Ayanami =DDFubuki DD Fubuki =DDFubuki DD Fujinami =DDAsashio DD Fumizuki =DDMutsuki DD Fuyo (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze DD Fuyuzuki =DDAkizuki DD Hagikaze =DDAsashio DD Hakaze =DDMinekaze DD Hamakaze =DDAsashio DD Hamanami =DDAsashio DD Hanazuki =DDAkizuki DD Harukaze =DDMinekaze DD Harusame =DDShiratsuyu DD Haruzuki =DDAkizuki DD Hasu (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze DD Hatakaze =DDMinekaze DD Hatsuharu =DDShiratsuyu DD Hatsukaze =DDAsashio DD Hatsushimo =DDShiratsuyu DD Hatsuyuki =DDFubuki DD Hatsuzuki =DDAkizuki DD Hayanami =DDAsashio DD Hayashimo =DDAsashio DD Hayashio =DDAsashio DD Hayate =DDMinekaze DD Hibiki =DDFubuki DD Hokaze =DDMinekaze DD Ikazuchi =DDFubuki DD Inazuma =DDFubuki DD Isokaze =DDAsashio DD Isonami =DDFubuki DD Kagero =DDAsashio DD Kamikaze =DDMinekaze DD Karukaya (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze DD Kasumi =DDAsashio DD Kawakaze =DDShiratsuyu DD Kazagumo =DDAsashio DD Kikuzuki =DDMutsuki DD Kisaragi =DDMutsuki DD Kishinami =DDAsashio DD Kiyonami =DDAsashio DD Kiyoshimo =DDAsashio DD Kuretake (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze DD Kuri (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze DD Kuroshio =DDAsashio DD Maikaze =DDAsashio DD Makigumo =DDAsashio DD Makinami =DDAsashio DD Matsukaze =DDMinekaze DD Michishio =DDAsashio DD Minazuki =DDMutsuki DD Minegumo =DDAsashio DD Minekaze =DDMinekaze DD Mochizuki =DDMutsuki DD Murakumo =DDFubuki DD Murasame =DDShiratsuyu DD Mutsuki =DDMutsuki DD Naganami =DDAsashio DD Nagatsuki =DDMutsuki DD Namikaze =DDMinekaze DD Natsugumo =DDAsashio DD Natsushio =DDAsashio DD Natsuzuki =DDAkizuki DD Nenohi =DDShiratsuyu DD Niizuki =DDAkizuki DD Nokaze =DDMinekaze DD Nowaki =DDAsashio DD Numakaze =DDMinekaze DD Oboro =DDFubuki DD Oite =DDMinekaze DD Okikaze =DDMinekaze DD Okinami =DDAsashio DD Onami =DDAsashio DD Oshio =DDAsashio DD Oyashio =DDAsashio DD Sagiri =DDFubuki DD Samidare =DDShiratsuyu DD Sanae (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze DD Satsuki =DDMutsuki DD Sawakaze =DDMinekaze DD Sazanami =DDFubuki DD Shigure =DDShiratsuyu DD Shikinami =DDFubuki DD Shimakaze =DDFubuki DD Shimotsuki =DDAkizuki DD Shinonome =DDFubuki DD Shiokaze =DDMinekaze DD Shirakumo =DDFubuki DD Shiranuhi =DDAsashio DD Shiratsuyu =DDShiratsuyu DD Shirayuki =DDFubuki DD Suzukaze =DDShiratsuyu DD Suzunami =DDAsashio DD Suzutsuki =DDAkizuki DD Tachikaze =DDMinekaze DD Tamanami =DDAsashio DD Tanikaze =DDAsashio DD Teruzuki =DDAkizuki DD Tokitsukaze =DDAsashio DD Tsuga (Momi Class) =DDMinekaze DD Umikaze =DDShiratsuyu DD Urakaze =DDAsashio DD Uranami =DDFubuki DD Ushio =DDFubuki DD Usugumo =DDFubuki DD Uzuki =DDMutsuki DD Wakaba =DDShiratsuyu DD Wakatake (Wakatake Class) =DDMinekaze DD Wakatsuki =DDAkizuki DD Yamagumo =DDAsashio DD Yamakaze =DDShiratsuyu DD Yayoi =DDMutsuki DD Yoizuki =DDAkizuki DD Yudachi =DDShiratsuyu DD Yugiri =DDFubuki DD Yugumo =DDAsashio DD Yukaze =DDMinekaze DD Yukikaze =DDAsashio DD Yunagi =DDMinekaze DD Yuzuki =DDMutsuki Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Akebono Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Genyo Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Itsukushima Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kenyo Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kokuyo Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Kyokuto Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Nichiei Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Nippon Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Shinkoku Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Toei Maru =OLNippon Fleet Oiler (Auxiliary) Toho Maru =OLNippon Gunboat (Auxiliary) Nagata Maru =KMSSKinposan Hospital Ship Naminoue Maru =PLKiturin Kaibokan Hachijo =MSNO13 Kaibokan Ishigaki =MSNO13 Kaibokan Kunashiri =MSNO13 Kaibokan Shimushu =MSNO13 Kaibokan Shimushu =MSNO13 Minelayer (Auxiliary) Tenyo Maru =KLCSNagara Minelayer Itsukushima =MSNO13 Minelayer Kamone =SCSubchaser Minelayer Okinoshima =MLOkinoshima Minelayer Shirataka =MSNO13 Minelayer Tsubame =SCSubchaser Minelayer Tsugaru =MLOkinoshima Minelayer Yaeyama =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-1 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-10 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-11 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-13 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-14 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-15 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-16 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-17 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-18 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-19 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-2 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-3 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-4 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-5 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-6 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-7 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-8 =MSNO13 Minesweeper W-9 =MSNO13 Netlayer Hatsutaka =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 1 (ex-Minekaze Class Shimakaze) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 2 (ex-Minekaze Class Nadakaze) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 31 (ex-Momi Class Kiku) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 32 (ex-Momi Class Aoi) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 33 (ex-Momi Class Hagi) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 34 (ex-Momi Class Suzuki) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 35 (ex-Momi Class Tsuta) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 36 (ex-Momi Class Fuji) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 37 (ex-Momi Class Hishi) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 38 (ex-Momi Class Yomogi) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 39 (ex-Momi Class Tade) =DDMinekaze Patrol Boat No. 46 (ex-Wakatake Class Yugao) =DDMinekaze Repair Ship Akashi =MLOkinoshima Repair Ship Asahi =MLOkinoshima Repair Ship Yamabiko Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kamikawa Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kamoi =OLNippon Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kimikawa Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kinugasa Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kiyokawa Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kiyokawa Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Kunikawa Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sagara Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sanuki Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender (Auxiliary) Sanyo Maru =KLCSNagara Seaplane Tender Akitsushima =CVSChitose Seaplane Tender Chitose (pre-rebuild) =CVSChitose Seaplane Tender Chiyoda (pre-rebuild) =CVSChitose Seaplane Tender Mizuho =CVSChitose Seaplane Tender Nisshin =CVSChitose Subchaser Ch-1 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-10 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-11 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-12 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-13 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-14 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-15 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-2 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-25 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-26 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-27 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-28 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-29 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-3 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-33 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-4 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-5 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-6 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-7 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-8 =SCSubchaser Subchaser Ch-9 =SCSubchaser Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Heian Maru =KLCSNagara Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Nagoya Maru =KLCSNagara Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Rio de Janeiro Maru =KLCSNagara Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Santos Maru =PLKiturin Submarine Depot Ship (Auxiliary) Yasukuni Maru =KLCSNagara Submarine Depot Ship Chogei =MLOkinoshima Submarine Depot Ship Jingei =MLOkinoshima Torpedo Boat Chidori =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Hato =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Hatsukari =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Hayabusa =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Hiyodori =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Kari =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Kasasagi =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Kiji =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Manazuru =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Otori =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Sagi =DDMutsuki Torpedo Boat Tomozuru =DDMutsuki Transport Aobasan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Arabia Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Arizona Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Asakasan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Asosan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Atsutasan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Ayatosan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Borneo Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Brisbane Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Cheribon Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Chifuku Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Chile Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport China Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Clyde Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Delagoa Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Fushimi Maru =PLHorai Transport Fuso Maru =PLHorai Transport Hawaii Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Hayo Maru? =KMSSBiyo Transport Hirokawa Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Hiyoshi Maru =KMCSHeito Transport Hokkai Maru =KLCSNagara Transport India Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Johore Maru =KMCSHeito Transport Kamo Maru =PLKiturin Transport Kamoi Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Kansai Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Kashii Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Katori Maru =PLHorai Transport Kenkon Maru =KMCSHeito Transport Kinka Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Kinugawa Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Koyu Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Kumagawa Maru? =KLCSNagara Transport Kunitama Maru =KSSSKasagisan Transport Kurohime Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Kuwayama Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Kyushu Maru =KLCSNagara Transport London Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Macassar Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Matsue Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Meigen Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Mexico Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Miike Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Moji Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Myoho Maru =KMCSHeito Transport Nagano Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Nako Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Nichiran Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Nichiryu Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Nikki Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Nojima Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Ohio Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Oigawa Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Oregon Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Oridono Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Risshun Maru =KMCSZinbu Transport Ryoyo Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Ryuun Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Sado Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Sagami Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Sakura Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Sanko Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Sasako Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Shinai Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Shinsei Maru No. 1 =KMSSBiyo Transport Shinshu Maru =PLHorai Transport Shiraha Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Shunko Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Suez Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Sumatra Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Tacoma Maru =KMCSZinbu Transport Taibun Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Takao Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Tamahoko Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Thames Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Toho Maru =KMCSHeito Transport Toho Maru =KMCSAkita Transport Tosan Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Unknown Maru (Kinkai Maru?) =KMSSBiyo Transport Unknown Maru (Samaran Maru?) =KMCSAkita Transport Unknown Maru (Shinkaha Maru?) =KMCSAkita Transport Unknown Taifuku Maru No. 1 Class =KMSSBiyo Transport Unyo Maru No. 2 =KMSSKinposan Transport Venice Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Wakatsu Maru =KMSSBiyo Transport Yamaura Maru =KLCSNagara Transport Yawata Maru =KSCSTaihosan Transport Yokohama Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Yuri Maru =KLSSHakusika Transport Zenyo Maru =KLCSNagara

06-23-07, 02:50 PM	#3
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Excellent list. I obviously only put classes in for ships other than the capital units (BBs and CVs). Now I need to compare more thouroughly with mine <S> BTW, given your excellent research regarding the power output of the various uinits, I'd be very interested in seeing what you are working on, campaign wise. My current set is a Q&D stand in for what I really want to do, a total rework. tater

06-25-07, 11:19 PM	#6
nematode Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 40 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	>also think Yubari might be better as the DD Akizuki, the minelayer has far less weaponry, though the down side it as a DD, it will hunt you. Hehe yeah, the DD ai could make things wierd for a Yubari. For example 1st Wake invasion, Yubari was flagship of the force that was slapped around by the US Marine shore batteries. I wouldn't want the flagship to be peeling off to hunt a sub at that moment But seriously there isn't any obvious, great fit for Yubari in the SH4 ship pool, any choice is gonna have to be a compromise. I went with Okinoshima as a fit for Yubari on tonnage, AI role, general appearance, everything except top speed, and guns, and its lack of guns is a bug. At some point in the SH4 patch sequence, Okinoshima's guns dissapeared. I assume its simply a matter of putting stuff back into its config files. >Also, Shimakaze has to be Akizuki, not Fubuki she was over 3000 tons! When I was thinking thru the substitution for Shimakaze, I was focusing on its 39knot speed, so that's how I came by Fubuki and its 38kts as a substitute. Tonnage wise, agreed, Akizuki is a better fit. >DD(E) Matsu =DDMutsuki ? Hard to do this guy. Yeah, I don't have the slightest idea on a good substitute for Matsu. There really isn't one in the pool. I think I'm holding out hope that someday someone will model one. >On the Armed Merchant Cruisers below, couldn't we use the German Aux Cruiser >(NAMC in the Sea folder)? All we need do is add it to the roster. That's a good idea. That would produce a working AMC pending availability of a kitbashed KLCSNagara with guns (which was what Kongo Maru, Kiyosumi Maru, Akagi Maru, Awata Maru, Kinryu Maru and Noshiro Maru basically were) or an 11k ton Aikoku Maru class vessel, attractive armed to the teeth converted passenger cargo liners, which I doubt we will ever see in SH4 but I remember them fondly from SH1. NAMC would also be a good candidate for a kitbash to make another maru, for example aux sub tenders Rio de Janerio Maru or Heian Maru, also the Hikawa Maru which somehow amazingly survived and is a tourist attraction in Yokohama.

06-25-07, 11:34 PM	#7
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	http://mpgtext.net/subshare/357AMC.rar There's the AMC as a JSGME mod (added to roster). I don't grok the 3d modding, or I'd already be workign on coastal shipping like sea trucks and fox tare dogs, sugar baker sugars, etc, lol. Good point on Yubari though. I can see Fubuki even on looks, too. Tough call. The speed didn't bother me since once it's faster than a fleet boat, it really doesn't matter much for SH4, I won't be doing any end-arounds on her if she's making 33 knots, or 39 tater

06-25-07, 11:41 PM	#8
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	BTW, I used the mod based on your research (ship HP) as a base, and upped the OLNippon's top speed to 19 knots (was set to 12 I think). That makes it a more attractive fleet oiler.

06-26-07, 12:05 AM	#9
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	<G> tater

06-26-07, 01:23 AM	#10
nematode Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 40 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Agreed

06-26-07, 07:53 AM	#11
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Heheh. Awesome. I have a pile of stuff I need to scan out of japanese model magazines by a guy who apparently scratch built a large % of their merchant marine tater

07-27-07, 05:37 PM	#12
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I'm in the process of modding in an armed fishing boat or 2, the armed trawler of the allies as a japanese craft (complete with DCs though it tends to blow the rack off set shallow). There is also an allied fishing boat (wood) that can be armed after a fashion (AA). It will fill in for the very small subchasers in harbors, even if it only fires guns. One nice addition ducimus made was to up the lost contact time. This gives nearby ships a larger radius in which to react. In this way, a small SC, even if unarmed for attacking a submerged sub, can radio the position and if there is a "real" ASW asset within 30 minutes they will come. All it needs is a hydrophone. While I tend towards keeping the AI mods pretty vanilla when thinking about stuff like this list, certain capabilities can make some marginal substitutions better. tater

09-03-07, 01:09 PM	#13
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I've been looking at making an eqp bash for Nagato and I actually think Ise might be a better match for her than Fuso. Fuso's pagoda is so unique, and the superstructure just aft of it is more built up in Nagato and Ise. The eqp bash would remove the P and Q turrets, and change A, B, X, and Y to dual 16" turrets. BTW. I have an eqp bash for Yagumo (no changes other than radar from Asashio, but she'd show up as "Yagumo"). I also have a bash for the Kaibokans (pretty generic, it's Evarts with jap weaponry). The "Bungo Pete" style of cloning has the advantage of not creating any more loading issues for the game since they share dats.

04-16-08, 10:27 PM	#14
miner1436 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 808 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 3	bump, import/export 3D model feature for S3D is up.

06-19-08, 08:35 PM	#15
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	bump