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Old 01-27-2018, 05:00 PM   #586
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I've noticed that the Sea Lance is not capable of attacking surface ships. In fact, it is somehow automatically prevented from tracking (and therefore attacking) any vessels within about 50-75 ft of the surface. If you launch a Sea Lance against an enemy submarine at 400 ft and they just so happen to decide to surface (maybe after getting hit by one Mk 50), a Mk 50 that is homing in on the sub will suddenly break off as soon as the sub enters the aforementioned 50-75 ft zone. The torpedo will endlessly enter circle search, even if the ship/sub is DIRECTLY above it.

Is this some sort of design feature / flaw or a bug? I ask because I have scoured the weapons.txt for all parameters relating to the usn_mk50 and usn_subrocii but there seems to be nothing responsible for this behaviour. Also, the Mk 50 has SHALLOW, DEEP modes and SNAKE, LEFT, RIGHT but the Sea Lance only permits a SKIM mode. AFAIK this also doesn't seem to work as even if I enable these extra modes on Sea Lance, the Mk 50's behaviour doesn't change.

What leads me to believe that this is probably unintended is that the Metel (Silex) and its parasitic UGMT-1 is all purpose and works against surface ships or shallow submarines, as can be clearly demonstrated if you play one of the playable surface ships.
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:54 PM   #587
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I've noticed that the Sea Lance is not capable of attacking surface ships. In fact, it is somehow automatically prevented from tracking (and therefore attacking) any vessels within about 50-75 ft of the surface. If you launch a Sea Lance against an enemy submarine at 400 ft and they just so happen to decide to surface (maybe after getting hit by one Mk 50), a Mk 50 that is homing in on the sub will suddenly break off as soon as the sub enters the aforementioned 50-75 ft zone. The torpedo will endlessly enter circle search, even if the ship/sub is DIRECTLY above it.

Is this some sort of design feature / flaw or a bug? I ask because I have scoured the weapons.txt for all parameters relating to the usn_mk50 and usn_subrocii but there seems to be nothing responsible for this behaviour. Also, the Mk 50 has SHALLOW, DEEP modes and SNAKE, LEFT, RIGHT but the Sea Lance only permits a SKIM mode. AFAIK this also doesn't seem to work as even if I enable these extra modes on Sea Lance, the Mk 50's behaviour doesn't change.

What leads me to believe that this is probably unintended is that the Metel (Silex) and its parasitic UGMT-1 is all purpose and works against surface ships or shallow submarines, as can be clearly demonstrated if you play one of the playable surface ships.
Its a known issue and has been reported already.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/541210...0279663353630/
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Old 01-27-2018, 09:03 PM   #588
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Its a known issue and has been reported already.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/541210...0279663353630/
Ah sorry, I don't frequent the steam forums.

It's just frustrating because different subs warrant different amounts of explosive before they sink. On occasion a sub will tank a torp, E-blow to surface, but as they are taking water only the nose will poke through the surface. That's still too shallow for a Sea Lance, but will not be enough for a TASM or 'poon to lock onto, even if set to pop-up to avoid waves.
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