[REL] S3D - Silent 3ditor

[skwasjer]

DeepIron, can you have a look if it provides a similar function to save the UVW-data into a single (binary) file? Or even if it loads .UVW files? (doubt it, I think it's just yet another proprietary Max-only format)

It's alot easier to just import the UV-data directly into the actual model in Max, than having to copy it from model A to model B.

Anyway, I'm really interested to hear if you can finally start importing some of your models into the game

[DeepIron]

Originally Posted by skwasjer

DeepIron, can you have a look if it provides a similar function to save the UVW-data into a single (binary) file? Or even if it loads .UVW files? (doubt it, I think it's just yet another proprietary Max-only format)

I believe your correct on that. However, W3D allows one to "break apart" a model into it's constituent objects and then UV map each one separately, a somewhat lengthy process. W3D is written in Erlang and has a very extensible plugin interface so I think I'll investigate that avenue. I might be able to automate the process somewhat... or possibly a script that will read .uvw files directly for importing...

It's alot easier to just import the UV-data directly into the actual model in Max, than having to copy it from model A to model B.

No doubt about that. I'm wondering how GMAX might be employed, possibly through a Maxscript... hmmm...:hmm:

Anyway, I'm really interested to hear if you can finally start importing some of your models into the game

You bet. I'll be getting started here soon and keep you in the loop...

[skwasjer]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

First feedback : it rocks :p
I didn't try to import some "all new" models yet because I suck at this, I don't even know how to do some lightmaping or stuff. Anyway, I exported a few game models (interiors, nothing fancy), remapped some bits, resized another bit, rotated another, and everything works perfect. For this kind of task I don't even have to bother about the load/save UV channels with 3ds, that's perfect.
I'll post some type II interior pics in a few minutes

Thanks, that's good to hear

[skwasjer]

Originally Posted by DeepIron

I believe your correct on that. However, W3D allows one to "break apart" a model into it's constituent objects and then UV map each one separately, a somewhat lengthy process. W3D is written in Erlang and has a very extensible plugin interface so I think I'll investigate that avenue. I might be able to automate the process somewhat... or possibly a script that will read .uvw files directly for importing...

The UVW format is pretty simple, it took me one hour to debug it. I you decide to script it, let me know and I'll write the spec down. This will probably take me more time than it took me to debug it :rotfl:

[M. Sarsfield]

It sounds like the GWX guys are starting to look at the SH4 code and develop importing tools. Are they aware of your handiwork, skwasjer?

[skwasjer]

Sure they are. Ref and privateer already use it, and also have assisted in a couple of features, most notably the animations part

[M. Sarsfield]

Cool. I consider what you've done to be a huge break through and I don't even mod - but I read a lot of the modding posts.

[Snaptrap]

Originally Posted by skwasjer

:rotfl: That cracked me up guys...

No.

That's ok, I did it myself. No more installer.

[skwasjer]

Don't come to me when it screws up your game, mods or just doesn't run. You are taking some required steps away, both during installation and uninstallation, not to mention when I have updates available you are going to run into problems. Hell, if it does run, you shouldn't trust that it runs as 'designed'. Stop screwing with the installer, I made it for a reason...

[UBOAT234]

THANKS SKW

A very good work

Many many thanks!

[skwasjer]

Hi UBOAT234, let me know if you run into problems. It's still a 'first release', so make sure to back up your work. Have fun!

[skwasjer]

Yes please

Some basic questions:
- Did you export it from the .dat using S3D as well?
- Has it been previously imported with Pack3D?

Give me the relevant chunk index as well so I know which one to look at...


[edit] I've already seen two other issues, so I'll update the importer/exporter and provide an update somewhere tonight.

[skwasjer]

Thanks, I'm on it!

[edit] Ok, internally the texture coordinates were not optimized for the main obj-file, only for subsequent channels and this caused that error. Your test.obj file contains 14018 texture coordinates but is not optimized (duplicates removed), this can be reduced to 1889. If this was the original model (from Ubi), then they haven't optimized it real good If this was imported with Pack3D earlier, maybe it was responsible for it.

I will let the optimization feature run on the main model as well in next release. I just did that locally and I got the same number of texcoords (1889). In the mean time, you can try if your 3D studio can remove the duplicates.

[keltos01]

i tried to replace the 9dx2 3d model with the sen toku one, it didn't work and I got this screen :

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[skwasjer]

Yes, I'm aware of this, but thanks for the heads up...

The current release contains 3 bugs, which I'm fixing as we speak