open more tubes at the same time

Perseus1990 · 09-10-17, 10:04 AM

Hello

Operation monsun + omegu v300
i would like to ask: How can i open more torpedo tubes at the same time? I tried click on the switches (didn't work), salvo firing (didn't work). When i open one and i switch to the second the first is closing automatically.
Thanks

Rockin Robbins · 09-10-17, 11:05 AM

That's just not the way they work. There is a maximum time they will stay open before they automatically close but that's measured in tens of minutes. I suggest that you have mod soup and need to consider a complete game reinstallation.

THEBERBSTER · 09-10-17, 01:49 PM

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propbeanie · 09-11-17, 08:18 AM

OK, Perseus1990... I've been through my OM again, and tried in several missions and a couple of career starts, using the Type VIIB. All function as intended, and the tubes stay open while cycling or clicking to others. What boat are you using, and which version of OM do you have? I've got

OM v705
OM v720
OM v720 Patch 5
OMEGU v300
OMEGU v300 Patch 7

for my Mod List in JSGME...

Try using the "W" key to cycle the tubes, and the "Q" key to open / close them. When you cycle back to Tube 1 and hit the "Q" key the 2nd time for the tube, you should get a message "Closing Tube 1". If you then press the "Q" key a 3rd time, it should say "Opening Tube 1".

Perseus1990 · 09-11-17, 12:19 PM

Hi

I have the same mods as you have. If i understand you correctly: choose the tube and press the Q key 3 times and the tube should stay open.

propbeanie · 09-11-17, 09:18 PM

No, that was just an example that you can cycle through the tubes, and they stay open, and to prove it, hitting "Q" while on Tube 1 a 2nd time will close it. If they are not staying open when you cycle to the next tube, there is possibly something wrong with your install, or you are using a different boat than I am. Are you in a Type II? I've never used one of those, and have no idea what you would encounter with one of them...

If you do suspect you have issues, where did you install the game (what directory or folder name), and which version of Windows are you using? Were you using other mods before putting OM in?

Perseus1990 · 09-14-17, 10:42 AM

I have Steam version, no mods before OM.
The opening tubes should work in all submarines, or not?

propbeanie · 09-14-17, 12:50 PM

I'm not sure of the Type II, but the IX should work the same as the VII...

As for the Steam version, which ends up having the same basic "Windows restrictions", do NOT install the game in the Program Files (x86) folder. Windows "protects" several folders on the computer, including all of the Windows folders, Program Files, Program Files (x86), Program Data, and a few others that I can't think of at the moment. Any changes made to those "protected" folders by means other than an "authorized" Windows interface will be rolled back by Windows, which in theory, will render them null and void. The problem lies in the fact that Windows doesn't roll back ALL of the files, only those of certain "protected" extensions. So you might get a partial "activation" of a mod like that, where JSGME places all the files like it should, and then Windows comes behind your back and puts all the original CFG and INI files back, leaving all of the DDS files alone.

Steam uses its own "install routine", so use the Steam app on your computer to re-do your install to a different folder, if necessary. THEBERBSTER has a thread

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...21#post2297821

and I've done a screen capture of my Steam app, as dodougla mentions in the above #3 post / thread:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...91#post2496891

It doesn't matter what folder you use, just so long as it's out of those Windows protected folders. I used F:\ Games \ Steam \ ... - I use "dot dot dot" there to signify the Steam folder structure, which is rather long... The game is found under the "Common" folder somewhere under "Steam" there, as you're well aware, I'm sure...

Let us know if that is not the case, because you really should be able to have more than one tube open in OM...

Perseus1990 · 09-15-17, 01:27 PM

Do you think i would buy the DVD version that could be better? I think the DVD version doesn't registration on steam.

propbeanie · 09-15-17, 02:16 PM

The DVD is easier to work with, but if you've got the Uboat Missions version of Steam, you've got all you need. It's not as persnickety as the SH5 or SH3 versions, but in ALL cases, you cannot install the program in the Program Files (x86) directory and use any form of any mods. It's just a "Windows" thing. Steam has its own "security" and "protection" stuff, so after you mod the game, you can no longer use the Steam utilities to check your game for errors, since it will interpret the mod changes as bad files also, but at least it's something you do, and not something done behind your back with no warning or recourse to change... I've got the DVD version of SH4, but I have the Steam versions of SH3 and SH5. SH5 in Steam is by far the most difficult to deal with, but even still, it can be wrangled to your will...

09-10-17, 10:04 AM	#1
Perseus1990 Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 8 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	open more tubes at the same time Hello Operation monsun + omegu v300 i would like to ask: How can i open more torpedo tubes at the same time? I tried click on the switches (didn't work), salvo firing (didn't work). When i open one and i switch to the second the first is closing automatically. Thanks

09-10-17, 11:05 AM	#2
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	That's just not the way they work. There is a maximum time they will stay open before they automatically close but that's measured in tens of minutes. I suggest that you have mod soup and need to consider a complete game reinstallation. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

09-11-17, 08:18 AM	#4
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,742 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	OK, Perseus1990... I've been through my OM again, and tried in several missions and a couple of career starts, using the Type VIIB. All function as intended, and the tubes stay open while cycling or clicking to others. What boat are you using, and which version of OM do you have? I've got OM v705 OM v720 OM v720 Patch 5 OMEGU v300 OMEGU v300 Patch 7 for my Mod List in JSGME... Try using the "W" key to cycle the tubes, and the "Q" key to open / close them. When you cycle back to Tube 1 and hit the "Q" key the 2nd time for the tube, you should get a message "Closing Tube 1". If you then press the "Q" key a 3rd time, it should say "Opening Tube 1". __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

09-11-17, 09:18 PM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,742 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	No, that was just an example that you can cycle through the tubes, and they stay open, and to prove it, hitting "Q" while on Tube 1 a 2nd time will close it. If they are not staying open when you cycle to the next tube, there is possibly something wrong with your install, or you are using a different boat than I am. Are you in a Type II? I've never used one of those, and have no idea what you would encounter with one of them... If you do suspect you have issues, where did you install the game (what directory or folder name), and which version of Windows are you using? Were you using other mods before putting OM in? __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

09-14-17, 12:50 PM	#8
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,742 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	I'm not sure of the Type II, but the IX should work the same as the VII... As for the Steam version, which ends up having the same basic "Windows restrictions", do NOT install the game in the Program Files (x86) folder. Windows "protects" several folders on the computer, including all of the Windows folders, Program Files, Program Files (x86), Program Data, and a few others that I can't think of at the moment. Any changes made to those "protected" folders by means other than an "authorized" Windows interface will be rolled back by Windows, which in theory, will render them null and void. The problem lies in the fact that Windows doesn't roll back ALL of the files, only those of certain "protected" extensions. So you might get a partial "activation" of a mod like that, where JSGME places all the files like it should, and then Windows comes behind your back and puts all the original CFG and INI files back, leaving all of the DDS files alone. Steam uses its own "install routine", so use the Steam app on your computer to re-do your install to a different folder, if necessary. THEBERBSTER has a thread http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...21#post2297821 and I've done a screen capture of my Steam app, as dodougla mentions in the above #3 post / thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...91#post2496891 It doesn't matter what folder you use, just so long as it's out of those Windows protected folders. I used F:\ Games \ Steam \ ... - I use "dot dot dot" there to signify the Steam folder structure, which is rather long... The game is found under the "Common" folder somewhere under "Steam" there, as you're well aware, I'm sure... Let us know if that is not the case, because you really should be able to have more than one tube open in OM... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

09-10-17, 01:49 PM	#3
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09-11-17, 12:19 PM	#5
Perseus1990 Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 8 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Hi I have the same mods as you have. If i understand you correctly: choose the tube and press the Q key 3 times and the tube should stay open.

09-14-17, 10:42 AM	#7
Perseus1990 Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 8 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I have Steam version, no mods before OM. The opening tubes should work in all submarines, or not?

09-15-17, 01:27 PM	#9
Perseus1990 Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 8 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Do you think i would buy the DVD version that could be better? I think the DVD version doesn't registration on steam.

09-15-17, 02:16 PM	#10
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,742 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	The DVD is easier to work with, but if you've got the Uboat Missions version of Steam, you've got all you need. It's not as persnickety as the SH5 or SH3 versions, but in ALL cases, you cannot install the program in the Program Files (x86) directory and use any form of any mods. It's just a "Windows" thing. Steam has its own "security" and "protection" stuff, so after you mod the game, you can no longer use the Steam utilities to check your game for errors, since it will interpret the mod changes as bad files also, but at least it's something you do, and not something done behind your back with no warning or recourse to change... I've got the DVD version of SH4, but I have the Steam versions of SH3 and SH5. SH5 in Steam is by far the most difficult to deal with, but even still, it can be wrangled to your will... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna