[REL] Type XXI 1939

Wreford-Brown · 10-30-08, 04:11 PM

This mod will make a type XXI U-boat available from the start of the war with a mixture of TIII and TIX torpedoes. It is a beta, so any comments or complaints (preferably constructive!) should be posted on this thread.

Thanks to the sterling work of JScones, this mod is now fully functional and you will be allocated patrol grids. Thank you, Jaesen.

Remember, you realism gurus - it's just for fun, OK.

WB

http://hosted.filefront.com/WrefordBrown

evan82 · 10-30-08, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

There is a known fault that SH3 will not allocated patrol grids for my XXI and gives the patrol grid as 'Null'. You can allocate a patrol grid through SH3 Commander or just cruise around looking for something to sink! I'm still working on this and JScones has kindly offered his help.

Remember, you realism gurus - it's just for fun, OK.

WB

http://hosted.filefront.com/WrefordBrown

Yes. Patrols grid are located in Data/Flotilla cfg. I also don't made the patrol grid scheme for XXI in my version of the game. If someone do this please contact me.

Graf Paper · 10-30-08, 04:29 PM

Thank you, WB!

You da man!

Wreford-Brown · 10-30-08, 04:29 PM

I've adjusted data/cfg/flotilla but I'm obviously missing the key to the door that will allow the amended patrol grids to be picked up by SH3.

evan82 · 10-30-08, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

I've adjusted data/cfg/flotilla but I'm obviously missing the key to the door that will allow the amended patrol grids to be picked up by SH3.

So the game need the additional info for patrol grids?:hmm:

Wreford-Brown · 10-30-08, 04:39 PM

That's the million dollar question

meduza · 10-30-08, 04:44 PM

Good mod.

evan82 · 10-30-08, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

That's the million dollar question

Maybe this is stupid question, but do You look into the CFG file SSTypeXXI sub in the folder: Data/Roster/German/Submarine?:hmm:

Wreford-Brown · 10-30-08, 04:55 PM

Yes - I've adjusted all of those values as well

evan82 · 10-30-08, 05:16 PM

So what is wrong? Maybe this is depending on the name (numbers of the boat).
For example:

Date01=1940
Month01=9
Starting01=Yes
TypeSub01=3; XXI
VersionSub01=0
iNbName01=3
Name010=U-137 - Here
Name011=U-138 - Here
Name012=U-139 - and Here
T0_010=80
T0_011=100
T2_010=20
T2_011=25
PlayerStartRenown01=500

Maybe the numbers from XXI must be added here. What You think?:hmm:

LZBTD · 10-31-08, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evan82

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

That's the million dollar question

Maybe this is stupid question, but do You look into the CFG file SSTypeXXI sub in the folder: Data/Roster/German/Submarine?:hmm:

Looking into the 'roster' file as we speak (write)

On the subject of *.cfg files is anybody aware of info on their exact function.

Graf Paper · 10-31-08, 12:11 PM

I'll tell you what I know...and it ain't much.

cfg stands for configuration. These files are used to set various "plug-in" values for elements in the game, such as how renown is accumulated or the maximum speed of a vessel.

cfg files in SH3 work much like lua scripts in other games. Altering or adding entries and values changes the behavior and attributes applied to the game elements.

eqp (equipment) files deal more directly with the allowed weapons and devices of a submarine or ship by date.

Both cfg and eqp files can be edited with a plain text editor, such as Notepad. Using Microsoft Word or other similar office applications is not recommended because of the embedded formatting used by those word processors.

Other files that control attributes... val, zon, sim, dat, cam, dsd...have values that can be edited using S3D, Silent 3ditor, skwas' very excellent tool that makes modding SH3 fairly simple compared to the days when a lot of SH3 mods were done with a hex editor.

val (value) files control attributes and behaviors of vessels and objects as seen from within the game, like how buoyant your uboat is or the size and length of a ships's wake.

zon (zone) files deal with the specific parts of a ship or submarine, such as how many hit points the conning tower has or when a compartment is considered flooded.

sim (simulation) files concern specific behaviors of a vessel or object as seen from within the game, such as how far your deck gun can turn and how quickly it can be raised/lowered.

dat (data) files relate to the 3D models like the positioning, texture, and lighting effects used on the various parts that make up a submarine.

cam (camera) files set the various points of view for the player, such as where you are standing when you move to the u-boat's bridge.

dsd (direct sound data) sets all the various associated sound effects associated with a vessel or object within the game, like when the noise of your u-boat's diesels kicks in after sufacing and which sound file is played for that diesel noise.

I hope this info helps but I cannot promise you it is complete or 100% accurate. Like I said, it's what I know at this time.

If there's a more experienced modder that has better information on this, please do tell.

evan82 · 10-31-08, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evan82

So what is wrong? Maybe this is depending on the name (numbers of the boat).
For example:

Date01=1940
Month01=9
Starting01=Yes
TypeSub01=3; XXI
VersionSub01=0
iNbName01=3
Name010=U-137 - Here
Name011=U-138 - Here
Name012=U-139 - and Here
T0_010=80
T0_011=100
T2_010=20
T2_011=25
PlayerStartRenown01=500

Maybe the numbers from XXI must be added here. What You think?:hmm:

I write above about U-Boat numbers from flotilla CFG. Maby in this is a problem that the game don't reading a patrol grid scheme for XXI. If thouse numbers means nothing, then why I see thouse numbers there? If I'm thinking wrong, then please correct me. I don't have a time to check it ,because I still work on the water streams for XXI.
PS; I know - my language, sorry!

evan82 · 10-31-08, 02:54 PM

I found something wrong in Wreford-Brown's Basic CFG file from "WBs XXI BETA" mod.
I downloaded this mod, and I check it on my PC.

This is wrong:

[SUBMARINE3]
NrMinOff=4
NrMaxOff=6
NrMinPO=14
NrMaxPO=24
NrMinSeamen=26
NrMaxSeamen=34
NbVersion=1
Version0=0 ;XXI
Name0=XXI
Month0=4
Year0=1944 - BAD DATE!
DaysSpentInBase=28

This is good:

[SUBMARINE3]
NrMinOff=4
NrMaxOff=6
NrMinPO=14
NrMaxPO=24
NrMinSeamen=26
NrMaxSeamen=34
NbVersion=1
Version0=0 ;XXI
Name0=XXI
Month0=4
Year0=1939
DaysSpentInBase=28

Another bad date from the Basic CFG file. Here it is:

;[SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI
[SUBMARINE_AMMO10]
Type=3
Version=0
ForeTubes=6
AftTubes=0
ForeResIntern=17
ForeResExtern=0
ForeResExtra=0
AftResIntern=0
AftResExtern=0
ShellSlots=10
NbYears=3 - FROM 1939 TO 1945 ONLY 3 YEARS?
Renown=11

Look here:

Year 0 = 1939
Year 1 = 1940
Year 2 = 1941
Year 3 = 1942
Year 4 = 1943
Year 5 = 1944
Year 6 = 1945

So it is 7 Years for XXI!!!

This is good:

;[SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI
[SUBMARINE_AMMO10]
Type=3
Version=0
ForeTubes=6
AftTubes=0
ForeResIntern=17
ForeResExtern=0
ForeResExtra=0
AftResIntern=0
AftResExtern=0
ShellSlots=10
NbYears=7 - YES BECAUSE OF 7 YEARS OF WAR FOR XXI!
Renown=11

I think it will help.

PS:Sorry about my two posts at once, but this is a important information!

Wreford-Brown · 11-01-08, 03:51 AM

@evan82 - thank you. I missed that one and that's the way it should be configured (comparing it to the Type II).
It's points like this that can make a huge difference.

I've adjusted the mod (it's now BETA v1.1) and uploaded to FF.

That's what I love about subsim - the way we can pool our knowledge.

10-30-08, 04:11 PM	#1
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	[REL] Type XXI 1939 This mod will make a type XXI U-boat available from the start of the war with a mixture of TIII and TIX torpedoes. It is a beta, so any comments or complaints (preferably constructive!) should be posted on this thread. Thanks to the sterling work of JScones, this mod is now fully functional and you will be allocated patrol grids. Thank you, Jaesen. Remember, you realism gurus - it's just for fun, OK. WB http://hosted.filefront.com/WrefordBrown __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time... Last edited by Wreford-Brown; 11-06-08 at 05:45 AM. Reason: Title incorrect - it's no longer just my mod due to the massive help received from evan82 and JScones

10-30-08, 04:29 PM	#3
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	Thank you, WB! You da man! __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-30-08, 04:29 PM	#4
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	I've adjusted data/cfg/flotilla but I'm obviously missing the key to the door that will allow the amended patrol grids to be picked up by SH3. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

10-30-08, 04:39 PM	#6
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	That's the million dollar question __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

10-30-08, 04:44 PM	#7
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Good mod. __________________

10-30-08, 04:55 PM	#9
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	Yes - I've adjusted all of those values as well __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

10-30-08, 05:16 PM	#10
evan82 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 555 Downloads: 197 Uploads: 12	So what is wrong? Maybe this is depending on the name (numbers of the boat). For example: Date01=1940 Month01=9 Starting01=Yes TypeSub01=3; XXI VersionSub01=0 iNbName01=3 Name010=U-137 - Here Name011=U-138 - Here Name012=U-139 - and Here T0_010=80 T0_011=100 T2_010=20 T2_011=25 PlayerStartRenown01=500 Maybe the numbers from XXI must be added here. What You think?:hmm: __________________ MY MODS - evan82's XXI Water StreamVIIB War Skin IIevan82's XXI Skin... Last edited by evan82; 10-30-08 at 06:55 PM.

10-31-08, 12:11 PM	#12
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	I'll tell you what I know...and it ain't much. cfg stands for configuration. These files are used to set various "plug-in" values for elements in the game, such as how renown is accumulated or the maximum speed of a vessel. cfg files in SH3 work much like lua scripts in other games. Altering or adding entries and values changes the behavior and attributes applied to the game elements. eqp (equipment) files deal more directly with the allowed weapons and devices of a submarine or ship by date. Both cfg and eqp files can be edited with a plain text editor, such as Notepad. Using Microsoft Word or other similar office applications is not recommended because of the embedded formatting used by those word processors. Other files that control attributes... val, zon, sim, dat, cam, dsd...have values that can be edited using S3D, Silent 3ditor, skwas' very excellent tool that makes modding SH3 fairly simple compared to the days when a lot of SH3 mods were done with a hex editor. val (value) files control attributes and behaviors of vessels and objects as seen from within the game, like how buoyant your uboat is or the size and length of a ships's wake. zon (zone) files deal with the specific parts of a ship or submarine, such as how many hit points the conning tower has or when a compartment is considered flooded. sim (simulation) files concern specific behaviors of a vessel or object as seen from within the game, such as how far your deck gun can turn and how quickly it can be raised/lowered. dat (data) files relate to the 3D models like the positioning, texture, and lighting effects used on the various parts that make up a submarine. cam (camera) files set the various points of view for the player, such as where you are standing when you move to the u-boat's bridge. dsd (direct sound data) sets all the various associated sound effects associated with a vessel or object within the game, like when the noise of your u-boat's diesels kicks in after sufacing and which sound file is played for that diesel noise. I hope this info helps but I cannot promise you it is complete or 100% accurate. Like I said, it's what I know at this time. If there's a more experienced modder that has better information on this, please do tell. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-31-08, 02:54 PM	#14
evan82 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 555 Downloads: 197 Uploads: 12	I found something wrong in Wreford-Brown's Basic CFG file from "WBs XXI BETA" mod. I downloaded this mod, and I check it on my PC. This is wrong: [SUBMARINE3] NrMinOff=4 NrMaxOff=6 NrMinPO=14 NrMaxPO=24 NrMinSeamen=26 NrMaxSeamen=34 NbVersion=1 Version0=0 ;XXI Name0=XXI Month0=4 Year0=1944 - BAD DATE! DaysSpentInBase=28 This is good: [SUBMARINE3] NrMinOff=4 NrMaxOff=6 NrMinPO=14 NrMaxPO=24 NrMinSeamen=26 NrMaxSeamen=34 NbVersion=1 Version0=0 ;XXI Name0=XXI Month0=4 Year0=1939 DaysSpentInBase=28 Another bad date from the Basic CFG file. Here it is: ;[SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI [SUBMARINE_AMMO10] Type=3 Version=0 ForeTubes=6 AftTubes=0 ForeResIntern=17 ForeResExtern=0 ForeResExtra=0 AftResIntern=0 AftResExtern=0 ShellSlots=10 NbYears=3 - FROM 1939 TO 1945 ONLY 3 YEARS? Renown=11 Look here: Year 0 = 1939 Year 1 = 1940 Year 2 = 1941 Year 3 = 1942 Year 4 = 1943 Year 5 = 1944 Year 6 = 1945 So it is 7 Years for XXI!!! This is good: ;[SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI [SUBMARINE_AMMO10] Type=3 Version=0 ForeTubes=6 AftTubes=0 ForeResIntern=17 ForeResExtern=0 ForeResExtra=0 AftResIntern=0 AftResExtern=0 ShellSlots=10 NbYears=7 - YES BECAUSE OF 7 YEARS OF WAR FOR XXI! Renown=11 I think it will help. PS:Sorry about my two posts at once, but this is a important information! __________________ MY MODS - evan82's XXI Water StreamVIIB War Skin IIevan82's XXI Skin... Last edited by evan82; 10-31-08 at 03:50 PM.

11-01-08, 03:51 AM	#15
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	@evan82 - thank you. I missed that one and that's the way it should be configured (comparing it to the Type II). It's points like this that can make a huge difference. I've adjusted the mod (it's now BETA v1.1) and uploaded to FF. That's what I love about subsim - the way we can pool our knowledge. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time... Last edited by Wreford-Brown; 11-01-08 at 05:18 AM.