SB2 officially announced

Skybird · 07-12-07, 05:19 PM

http://www.esimgames.com/steel_beasts_2.htm

Not much new info, and no release date, but now it is official that they are working on it.

NeonSamurai · 07-13-07, 02:17 AM

Yep only thing of note is this one will be aimed at gamers/entertainment instead of the military, which likely meens a bit more gamey (and more polished in some area's) play, standard pricing, and no usb dongle.

Steel Beasts 2

Target audience: Consumers
Intended use: Entertainment.

The sequel to 2000's Best Simulation Game is in the works!

Skybird · 07-13-07, 02:59 AM

They indicated at earlier occasions that for example SB2-improvements in the visual field will be carried over to SBP-Pro sooner or later, too.

Certain aspects that are more interesting for military professionals and are adding complexity the gamers-audience does not need or like, will be left out.

Both titles were described to be - probably - incompatible with regard to online playing, and mission designing.

I think the hardcore guys will stick with SBP-Pro for online play. This does not mean that there cannot emerge a strong SB2-community, too.

Judging by the developement timetable of SBP Pro and the many delays, I do not expect SB2 before second half of 2008. Wouldn't be surprised if it becomes even 2009. But that is just me and my own believing.

P.S. I wouldn't rule out the dongle this early - it worked well with SBP Pro, and is a very reasonable solution that has found wide acceptance in the community. Better than getting some intrusive software installed on your HD.

HunterICX · 07-13-07, 04:09 AM

Still seems to me it could be a good sim
but I would like to see if they would keep it opcional to choose between Simple management of the tank and Complex (military) in a sort of dificulty setup of the game.

the good thing about it is.
people that just start playing the game will easily learn the game and what the tank does.
if they want more challenging and more control over the tank they can switch to Complex management to enjoy the game even more

just my 2cts
HunterICX

Skybird · 07-13-07, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Still seems to me it could be a good sim
but I would like to see if they would keep it opcional to choose between Simple management of the tank and Complex (military) in a sort of dificulty setup of the game.

the good thing about it is.
people that just start playing the game will easily learn the game and what the tank does.
if they want more challenging and more control over the tank they can switch to Complex management to enjoy the game even more

just my 2cts
HunterICX

But is tank handling as it is right now really that difficult...?

Chances are they will simplify things that right now are a bit more complex than is needed for the game market, for example the procedures to call in artillery (which is planned to be turned into an even more realistic and thus: complex one in the future). I could imagine they will have shadows, better infantry animations (maybe polygon-people), bigger smoke fans, better graphic FX in general, maybe functional weather, "über"-night vision screens (like oyu had with SB1), etc.

I considered some of these things (weather, changing time of day, shadows) to be important. However, after getting into SBPro-testing, I immediately forgot all these factors I would have loved to see before. SBP makes you forget that these things are not there very quickly.

I also hope they resist the pressure to include a dynamic campaign. SBP lives very much from good and mean mission designs and clever tactics - and these efforts cannot be succesfully conducted by an AI. What we do not need is a clueless massing of enemy troops like we used to have with M1TP2 (not that I did not enjoy it in it's time...)

HunterICX · 07-13-07, 05:20 AM

I've driven a Tank in a very old sim
if I,m right that where the windos 98 Days with in those day state of the art 3D effects.

just browsed tanksim.com and found the name
M1 Tank Platoon 2

it took me a while before I could manage to prevent my tank coliding against things.

I find SBP very pricey, and couldnt find it in any of the local shops here. So I never played it, it looks very nice from what I can see in the screenshot thread. and maybe its something for in the future when I got more free time to get thinks straighten out.

about tanks, I just like to be a big bully on a battlefield

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,588 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	SB2 officially announced http://www.esimgames.com/steel_beasts_2.htm Not much new info, and no release date, but now it is official that they are working on it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Yep only thing of note is this one will be aimed at gamers/entertainment instead of the military, which likely meens a bit more gamey (and more polished in some area's) play, standard pricing, and no usb dongle. Steel Beasts 2 Target audience: Consumers Intended use: Entertainment. The sequel to 2000's Best Simulation Game is in the works! __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,588 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	They indicated at earlier occasions that for example SB2-improvements in the visual field will be carried over to SBP-Pro sooner or later, too. Certain aspects that are more interesting for military professionals and are adding complexity the gamers-audience does not need or like, will be left out. Both titles were described to be - probably - incompatible with regard to online playing, and mission designing. I think the hardcore guys will stick with SBP-Pro for online play. This does not mean that there cannot emerge a strong SB2-community, too. Judging by the developement timetable of SBP Pro and the many delays, I do not expect SB2 before second half of 2008. Wouldn't be surprised if it becomes even 2009. But that is just me and my own believing. P.S. I wouldn't rule out the dongle this early - it worked well with SBP Pro, and is a very reasonable solution that has found wide acceptance in the community. Better than getting some intrusive software installed on your HD. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-13-07, 04:09 AM	#4
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Still seems to me it could be a good sim but I would like to see if they would keep it opcional to choose between Simple management of the tank and Complex (military) in a sort of dificulty setup of the game. the good thing about it is. people that just start playing the game will easily learn the game and what the tank does. if they want more challenging and more control over the tank they can switch to Complex management to enjoy the game even more just my 2cts HunterICX __________________

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HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I've driven a Tank in a very old sim if I,m right that where the windos 98 Days with in those day state of the art 3D effects. just browsed tanksim.com and found the name M1 Tank Platoon 2 it took me a while before I could manage to prevent my tank coliding against things. I find SBP very pricey, and couldnt find it in any of the local shops here. So I never played it, it looks very nice from what I can see in the screenshot thread. and maybe its something for in the future when I got more free time to get thinks straighten out. about tanks, I just like to be a big bully on a battlefield __________________ Last edited by HunterICX; 07-13-07 at 05:33 AM.