DCS:- Warthog (A-10C) - Page 14

Dowly · 08-20-11, 05:23 AM

Mmm... I'd welcome Tomcat too.

But ONLY if there's a button to make the RIO sing Highway to the Danzer Zone out of tune ala Bill & John.

Oberon · 08-20-11, 06:49 AM

DCS: Apache - DO WANT

An interesting combination of Black Shark and A-10 would be the Harrier.

Herr-Berbunch · 08-20-11, 08:10 AM

Harrier? Single seat, multi-role, carrier/land based...

And I'm sure they can get their hands on one or two...

ajrimmer42 · 08-20-11, 08:40 AM

+1 for DCS: Harrier

Raptor1 · 08-20-11, 01:58 PM

IIRC they said the next one is a US fixed winger. In which case I'm betting on the F/A-18 (Though if I had my choice, B-1B Lancer or B-52, obviously).

I hope they get around to making the Su-27 and its variations at some point (Especially the Su-34), though.

Dowly · 08-20-11, 02:26 PM

Yeah, it's going to be US plane.

As for next Russian plane, Mig-29, please.

Arclight · 08-20-11, 03:01 PM

Still wondering how they plan to tackle dual-seat cockpits. I guess either have the option to hop between seats or have the AI take a station.

Both thoughts are terrifying to be honest. Relying on AI should be obvious why, and hopping seats means twice the work and twice the number of buttons.

Might be nice in MP with 2 human pilots though.

Herr-Berbunch · 08-21-11, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

...and hopping seats means twice the work and twice the number of buttons.

I don't even know what I'm supposed to press with just the one cockpit

Do you think they'll go in to the air-air side a bit more? Seem to like their mud-moving.

Arclight · 08-21-11, 02:59 AM

Unless they do something obscure, the next one will be able to carry the AMRAAM (F-16, F-15, F/A-18 and Harrier). So some AA capability is, I think, a given at this point.

I'm glad they've focused on air-to-ground. Far more versatile missions. The F-15C for example can engage aircraft... that's it. With the Ka-50 you can go after any kind of vehicle, short-range air defences and AAA, other helicopters and even CAS fixed-wings who forget a Vikhr greatly outranges their self-defence AA missiles.

(to be honest AA combat bores me to tears)

I'm hoping for a multirole, F-16 or F/A-18. The HARM on the F-16 or Harpoon on the F/A-18 would make an interesting addition to the stuff we can launch right now, along with the AIM-120.

Skybird · 09-16-11, 04:55 PM

German DVD version has been released today, Friday. Also got confirmation that German Amazon has shipped my copy. Take-off on Saturday, I think.

Let'S see what it brings. The English manual I had already downloaded and read in full in the past weeks, and surely will need to read parts of it again.

As for the next DCS plane, if they go classic, I could imagine the F-4 Phantom, maybe the Skyhawk. The F4 would deserve to be simulated, it has not been done since the days of "Flight of the Intruder", and is there a post-WWII aircraft more classical than the Phantom II...? Also, I would expect that it is pretty much known technical stuff, and declassified information by now.

If they go modern, I think it will be the F-18. Anything stealthy would be too speculative for their standards, I assume.

Skybird · 09-18-11, 04:34 PM

That is a fun thing to fly! Very dynamic flight model, maybe even a little bit too nervous, but no flying-on-rails, brings back memories of flying the Flanker 2.5 and Fulcrum. Did a first go at it, took of, and landed, but now am left with finetuning the keyboard commands and HOTAS assignments, and the interface for that, in good old tradition of theirs, is no real fun. Also, while having understood all the stuff when reading the manual - plenty of it reminds of the later Falcon things - I still need to find a way to actually memorise it all. I feel that I am not mentally hyperagile 20 year old anymore.

But the feeling of flying is very, very good. It'S a movement in a constantly flowing, dynamic medium - like it should be.

German DVD version is 1.1.0.9, btw. No patching needed.

Herr-Berbunch · 09-18-11, 04:55 PM

Glad it's reached your expectations, had no doubt it would.

Fine tuning HOTAS/Keyboard has never been fun, but necessary!

Skybird · 09-18-11, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Fine tuning HOTAS/Keyboard has never been fun, but necessary!

Yes, but - also as expected - they make it unnecessarily uncomfortable.

Russians just don't know about ergonomics.

And they stick to it.

hawk2495 · 09-18-11, 10:29 PM

In Soviet Russia, the keyboard and HOTAS fine tune YOU!!

CrowSHV · 09-19-11, 09:10 PM

Hmm interesting. Do you guys still play A-10/Black Shark together? I would be willing to join.. with your permission of course. I'm not 'too great' at the game, but I'm not horrible either. I have both, but for now I'm mostly playing A-10.

08-20-11, 08:10 AM	#198
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Harrier? Single seat, multi-role, carrier/land based... And I'm sure they can get their hands on one or two... __________________

08-20-11, 08:40 AM	#199
ajrimmer42 Royal Kinotropist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 987 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	+1 for DCS: Harrier __________________ Alex Don't judge a ship by the number of it's guns, but by the skill of it's crew.

08-20-11, 01:58 PM	#200
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	IIRC they said the next one is a US fixed winger. In which case I'm betting on the F/A-18 (Though if I had my choice, B-1B Lancer or B-52, obviously). I hope they get around to making the Su-27 and its variations at some point (Especially the Su-34), though. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

08-20-11, 03:01 PM	#202
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Still wondering how they plan to tackle dual-seat cockpits. I guess either have the option to hop between seats or have the AI take a station. Both thoughts are terrifying to be honest. Relying on AI should be obvious why, and hopping seats means twice the work and twice the number of buttons. Might be nice in MP with 2 human pilots though. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

08-21-11, 02:59 AM	#204
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Unless they do something obscure, the next one will be able to carry the AMRAAM (F-16, F-15, F/A-18 and Harrier). So some AA capability is, I think, a given at this point. I'm glad they've focused on air-to-ground. Far more versatile missions. The F-15C for example can engage aircraft... that's it. With the Ka-50 you can go after any kind of vehicle, short-range air defences and AAA, other helicopters and even CAS fixed-wings who forget a Vikhr greatly outranges their self-defence AA missiles. (to be honest AA combat bores me to tears) I'm hoping for a multirole, F-16 or F/A-18. The HARM on the F-16 or Harpoon on the F/A-18 would make an interesting addition to the stuff we can launch right now, along with the AIM-120. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

08-20-11, 05:23 AM	#196
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Mmm... I'd welcome Tomcat too. But ONLY if there's a button to make the RIO sing Highway to the Danzer Zone out of tune ala Bill & John.

08-20-11, 06:49 AM	#197
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	DCS: Apache - DO WANT An interesting combination of Black Shark and A-10 would be the Harrier.

08-20-11, 02:26 PM	#201
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yeah, it's going to be US plane. As for next Russian plane, Mig-29, please.

09-16-11, 04:55 PM	#205
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,500 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	German DVD version has been released today, Friday. Also got confirmation that German Amazon has shipped my copy. Take-off on Saturday, I think. Let'S see what it brings. The English manual I had already downloaded and read in full in the past weeks, and surely will need to read parts of it again. As for the next DCS plane, if they go classic, I could imagine the F-4 Phantom, maybe the Skyhawk. The F4 would deserve to be simulated, it has not been done since the days of "Flight of the Intruder", and is there a post-WWII aircraft more classical than the Phantom II...? Also, I would expect that it is pretty much known technical stuff, and declassified information by now. If they go modern, I think it will be the F-18. Anything stealthy would be too speculative for their standards, I assume. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-18-11, 04:34 PM	#206
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,500 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	That is a fun thing to fly! Very dynamic flight model, maybe even a little bit too nervous, but no flying-on-rails, brings back memories of flying the Flanker 2.5 and Fulcrum. Did a first go at it, took of, and landed, but now am left with finetuning the keyboard commands and HOTAS assignments, and the interface for that, in good old tradition of theirs, is no real fun. Also, while having understood all the stuff when reading the manual - plenty of it reminds of the later Falcon things - I still need to find a way to actually memorise it all. I feel that I am not mentally hyperagile 20 year old anymore. But the feeling of flying is very, very good. It'S a movement in a constantly flowing, dynamic medium - like it should be. German DVD version is 1.1.0.9, btw. No patching needed. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-18-11, 04:55 PM	#207
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Glad it's reached your expectations, had no doubt it would. Fine tuning HOTAS/Keyboard has never been fun, but necessary! __________________

09-18-11, 10:29 PM	#209
hawk2495 Sparky Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SierraVista, AZ Posts: 154 Downloads: 190 Uploads: 0	In Soviet Russia, the keyboard and HOTAS fine tune YOU!!

09-19-11, 09:10 PM	#210
CrowSHV Watch Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 22 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Hmm interesting. Do you guys still play A-10/Black Shark together? I would be willing to join.. with your permission of course. I'm not 'too great' at the game, but I'm not horrible either. I have both, but for now I'm mostly playing A-10.