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Old 01-21-19, 10:12 AM   #31
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Old 01-21-19, 12:31 PM   #33
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I neglected to mention that by changing the "Beginning of 1944", "StartTimeInterval", to "1944-01-15, 1944-01-15", the "Middle of 1944", "StartTimeInterval", to "1944-06-15, 1944-06-15" and the "Beginning of 1945", to "Middle of Dec 1944", "StartTimeInterval", to "1944-12-15, 1944-12-15", suspends the issue. (Note: setting the "Beginning of 1945" "StartTimeInterval" to 1945-01-15, 1945-01-15" had no effect on the suspension of the issue.)

I'm drilling down on that now.......
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So besides the several duplicate names I've found, the DeleteOnLastWaypoint settings, and a few other nigglies, apparentlyt the StartTimeInterval settings "overlap" the transition from "ID= Beginning" to "ID= EarlyWar" to "ID= MidWar" to finally "ID= LateWar" is probably the main culprit. I almost agree, though I have not proven it conclusively. Hopefully, you will shortly! Usually, when there is a mistake with those dates, the game crashes on loading the menu, but maybe not if it's the last one, which "ID= LateWar" first shows on the Beginning of 1944 Start...
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So besides the several duplicate names I've found, the DeleteOnLastWaypoint settings, and a few other nigglies, apparentlyt the StartTimeInterval settings "overlap" the transition from "ID= Beginning" to "ID= EarlyWar" to "ID= MidWar" to finally "ID= LateWar" is probably the main culprit. I almost agree, though I have not proven it conclusively. Hopefully, you will shortly! Usually, when there is a mistake with those dates, the game crashes on loading the menu, but maybe not if it's the last one, which "ID= LateWar" first shows on the Beginning of 1944 Start...
Here are the date ranges that suspend the issue.

[CareerStart 7]
ID= LateWar
NameDisplayable= Beginning of 1944
StartTimeInterval=1944-01-09, 1944-01-15

[CareerStart 8]
ID= LateWar
NameDisplayable= Middle of 1944
StartTimeInterval=1944-06-07, 1944-06-15

[CareerStart 9]
ID= LateWar
NameDisplayable= Beginning of 1945
StartTimeInterval=1945-01-18, 1945-01-31

Note: "StartTimeInterval=1944-12-15, 1944-12-15" also suspends the issue. I have not tested backwards from "StartTimeInterval=1945-01-01, 1945-01-15" (The default). Since "StartTimeInterval=1945-01-01, 1945-01-01" does NOT suspend the issue the dates would necessarily begin in Mid December and end in Late December 1944.

Start dates of;
1944-01-08
1944-06-06
1944-01-17
Do NOT work.

I say "suspends" the issue rather than "fixes" the issue because the act of saving or loading a game DURING a month long, or longer, career may also be subject to the issue, or may indeed, suspend the issue. I haven't tested that to "exhaustion" yet.
That being said, however, a quick test of a Career started Jan. 1 1944 (in the BAD range of dates), save games made on both Jan. 17 (within the range of BAD dates) and Jan 18 (within the range of GOOD dates) both failed on the reload. So, it appears unlikely that save game date ranges can be cycled in or out of during the course of the length of a Patrol. That would be good news!
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Old 01-22-19, 02:05 PM   #36
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Success - for now (again). I can't explain


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I used your dates Front Runner on the CareerStart, and it does work, with the Alaska starts where they are... Now, here's a conundrum:
v0.63 CareerStart (which works)
[CareerStart 6]
ID= LateWar
NameDisplayable= Beginning of 1944
StartTimeInterval=1944-01-01, 1944-01-01

[CareerStart 7]
ID= LateWar
NameDisplayable= Middle of 1944
StartTimeInterval=1944-06-05, 1944-06-05

[CareerStart 8]
ID= LateWar
NameDisplayable= Beginning of 1945
StartTimeInterval=1945-01-01, 1945-01-01
say whuh?...

Stock
[CareerStart 4]
ID= LateWar
NameDisplayable= 1944
StartTimeInterval=1944-01-15, 1944-04-31
That is the only "LateWar" start in stock. So why do the new dates you listed work, and not the others in v0.71, which are the same in v0.80? Surely we're not just chasing our tails, are we?... It does NOT appear to be the "ID=" issue as I supposed earlier... - Strange game. Anyway, photographic "evidence":




The left hand is after a third reload of the Save, and the right is the picture taken just prior to Save.
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The date changes work!

The issue is officially suspended!

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propbeanie - thanks for the Shindig flashback!
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Man, I wish those shows were still on... Don Kirshner's Rock Concert, and a few others over the years... 'Course, The Who are (have??) recording a new "record album" (my 18yo is into vinyl... ) and then going on tour... They're older than me! Maybe we'll have to get our old band back together and do some YuToob posting, to commemorate The Who's touring...

We will be putting those edits in the CareerStart into the hands of the "Wild" (aka: beta testers) shortly I hope. I've got one more little nigglie that is driving me bonkers...
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