US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 457

vienna · 03-14-19, 09:03 PM

Or anywhere as numerous or popular as the the far right likes to believe themselves to be...

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em2nought · 03-15-19, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna

Or anywhere as numerous or popular as the the far right likes to believe themselves to be...

There will be a rifle behind every blade of grass.

vienna · 03-16-19, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by em2nought

There will be a rifle behind every blade of grass.

Yes, dropped by them as they run away...

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MaDef · 03-16-19, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna

Yes, dropped by them as they run away...<O>

The French maybe, Americans, not so much.

em2nought · 03-16-19, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

The French maybe, Americans, not so much.

We're too fat to run.

STEED · 03-21-19, 12:14 PM

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President Trump tweets that US will recognise Israeli sovereignty over Golan Heights, seized from Syria in 1967 war

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-47657843

I wonder what there neighbours will think of this.

Platapus · 03-21-19, 02:57 PM

UN Resolution 681 - Prohibition Against Acquiring Land Through War

The US voted for this, but is "selective" when it considers application.

Skybird · 03-21-19, 04:04 PM

The Golan was taken during a war of attack directed at Israel. Considering that giving it back would have meant strategic disadvantages when artillery and missiles played a bigger role than they do today (height advantage) and the Golan is a sweet water supply for the Israeli lower territories bordering it in the south (not the most relevant but still'': water flows from top to bottom, not the other way around, and below the Golan lies the lake Genezareth...), and considering that the Golan now is bordering territories that are parading grounds for Iranians and Hesbollah both are sworn in to the desruction of Israel, pointing out that giving back the Golan would border rewarding a war of aggression and would allow that the aggressor could just take back his move that costed many lives, as if nothing happened and there were no aggression at all, is an almost non-relevant argument - but sitll holds what I just said. The aggressor struck first, and his gamble failed, and he had to pay a price. Like germany is well-advised not to demand back former Eastern territories that now are Polish state territory, Syria has a similiar no-case of wanting back the Golan.

Also, the UN traditionally has a very strong, one-sided-anti-Israel pro-Arab-pro-Islam bias. Just count how many resolutions the Arab-Islamophile and anti-semite block has enforced against israel over - in comparison - nothing, and how shamefully few, if any, resolutions there have been agianst massacres and genocdies and support of terrorism against Islamic countries. The ratio speaks vokumes.

To hell with the UN, and to hell with its precious resolutions. It has no credibility or respectability left, is just a bopring joke that nobody can alugh about anymore since it has been told so many times now that nobody wants to hear it ever again.

Skybird · 03-22-19, 04:23 PM

Mueller's done.

Final report handed to Barr.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47671715

Is Barr a neutral man, or is he a Trump guy?

Catfish · 03-22-19, 04:56 PM

Can the president alone grant Israel sovereignty? Without the senate or the consent of the american people, whoever represents them apart from the president?

August · 03-22-19, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Can the president alone grant Israel sovereignty? Without the senate or the consent of the american people, whoever represents them apart from the president?

He's not granting anyone anything Catfish. Merely recognizing Israels claim to the land.

ikalugin · 03-23-19, 06:13 AM

I wonder if Crimea would ever be recognised in the same way.

Platapus · 03-23-19, 06:21 AM

The president can recognize pretty much anything he wants to. It does not affect any current legislation though. Any changes to current legislation will have to go through congress.

His recognition may influence future legislation

But for practical purposes, this recognition is mostly symbolic and political

u crank · 03-23-19, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Mueller's done.

Final report handed to Barr.

Is Barr a neutral man, or is he a Trump guy?

There is no doubt that Barr holds conservative views on many issues. I guess that is not 'neutral'.

Is he a Trump guy? It would be pretty foolish for a President to appoint an AG who was not in some ways supportive of that administration.

As to Mueller finally handing in his homework...it lays to rest that hysterical narrative by the Dems and the left wing media about Trump firing Mueller.

Mr Quatro · 03-23-19, 09:27 AM

President Trump already knows what is in the Mueller report or he wouldn't be saying things like let everyone read it ... You don't become head of a country as big as America is without having some inside information.

03-14-19, 09:03 PM	#6841
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,506 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Or anywhere as numerous or popular as the the far right likes to believe themselves to be... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

03-21-19, 02:57 PM	#6847
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,946 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	UN Resolution 681 - Prohibition Against Acquiring Land Through War The US voted for this, but is "selective" when it considers application. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-21-19, 04:04 PM	#6848
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,486 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The Golan was taken during a war of attack directed at Israel. Considering that giving it back would have meant strategic disadvantages when artillery and missiles played a bigger role than they do today (height advantage) and the Golan is a sweet water supply for the Israeli lower territories bordering it in the south (not the most relevant but still'': water flows from top to bottom, not the other way around, and below the Golan lies the lake Genezareth...), and considering that the Golan now is bordering territories that are parading grounds for Iranians and Hesbollah both are sworn in to the desruction of Israel, pointing out that giving back the Golan would border rewarding a war of aggression and would allow that the aggressor could just take back his move that costed many lives, as if nothing happened and there were no aggression at all, is an almost non-relevant argument - but sitll holds what I just said. The aggressor struck first, and his gamble failed, and he had to pay a price. Like germany is well-advised not to demand back former Eastern territories that now are Polish state territory, Syria has a similiar no-case of wanting back the Golan. Also, the UN traditionally has a very strong, one-sided-anti-Israel pro-Arab-pro-Islam bias. Just count how many resolutions the Arab-Islamophile and anti-semite block has enforced against israel over - in comparison - nothing, and how shamefully few, if any, resolutions there have been agianst massacres and genocdies and support of terrorism against Islamic countries. The ratio speaks vokumes. To hell with the UN, and to hell with its precious resolutions. It has no credibility or respectability left, is just a bopring joke that nobody can alugh about anymore since it has been told so many times now that nobody wants to hear it ever again. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 03-21-19 at 04:40 PM.

03-22-19, 04:23 PM	#6849
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,486 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Mueller's done. Final report handed to Barr. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47671715 Is Barr a neutral man, or is he a Trump guy? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-22-19, 04:56 PM	#6850
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Can the president alone grant Israel sovereignty? Without the senate or the consent of the american people, whoever represents them apart from the president? __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

03-23-19, 06:13 AM	#6852
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I wonder if Crimea would ever be recognised in the same way. __________________ Grumpy as always.

03-23-19, 06:21 AM	#6853
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,946 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	The president can recognize pretty much anything he wants to. It does not affect any current legislation though. Any changes to current legislation will have to go through congress. His recognition may influence future legislation But for practical purposes, this recognition is mostly symbolic and political __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-23-19, 09:27 AM	#6855
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	President Trump already knows what is in the Mueller report or he wouldn't be saying things like let everyone read it ... You don't become head of a country as big as America is without having some inside information. __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..