UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by STEED

Theresa May told she has 72 hours to save her job

https://news.sky.com/story/pm-drinki...s-say-11531337

AND WHO IS GOING TO REPLACE HER?

That is a well written article and awfully close to the real position I suspect

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

That is a well written article and awfully close to the real position I suspect

WHO HAS THE GUTS TO TAKE AND DRINK FROM THE POISON CHALLIS?

[Skybird]

Now is the time to taste the flavour of dreamful wishy-washy.

Its like with olive oil: first creamy, warm and mild, but the longer you turn it in your mouth, the hotter and more bitter it becomes.

Although I still think there is quite a chance that all this maybe is according to a secret plan to make Britons not brexiteering at all - without politicians getting accused of having ignored a public vote from the beginning of all this. If you could not make people vote the way you want them to, frustrate them until they voluntarily give up.


Breaksit.

[Catfish]

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1MU0JD

700,000? Too little, too late.

[Jimbuna]

So true, unfortunately.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45938444

The PM has not ruled out the idea of extending this by up to a year to give the two sides more time to agree their future economic partnership and ensure controversial contingency plans to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland, the so-called backstop, do not ever come into force.

This bit could well make sense.

Both Brexiteers and Remainers worry this would delay further the moment of the UK's proper departure from the EU, and potentially cost billions in terms of extra payments.

This is the unfortunate counterbalance.

[Catfish]

I have some life insurance papers from an english company. Got a notice today they are transferring thousands of contracts to Ireland, to be "further able to keep up business relations with internatinal customers", since Ireland remains in the European Union.

It looks ok at first glance, but on second i saw that the insolvence protection for a lot of contracts will be cancelled. So if said company gets bankrupt, by changing those contracts to Ireland there will be no protection by the FSCS (UK Financial services compensation scheme) anymore.
And this small bit concerning me is only the tip of the iceberg of things to come. Now do i pull the plug and cancel the contract?

[Jimbuna]

I would suggest yes....always protect number one (yourself) first.

[Catfish]

^ i guess you know what happens if people withdraw their money from the banks, and cancel contracts. Does not look good for UK companies if all panic and do so

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Catfish

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1MU0JD

700,000? Too little, too late.

What got me angry was these bloody young adults claiming they were denied the vote! Of course you bloody were you were under 18 years of age of the time of the referendum you dimwits!



Fact is as I have said both sides told lies because politicians were involved in both remain/leave campaigns. Today's politicians are a load of b'stards who lie and lie and lie and sell the lie so you think this must be true.

[STEED]

Is it all over for PM May this Wednesday?


Will the trigger be pulled for a leadership challenge?


I say no, the smell of BS in the air can be smelt all the way up jim's way.

Air freshener jim?

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by STEED

What got me angry was these bloody young adults claiming they were denied the vote! Of course you bloody were you were under 18 years of age of the time of the referendum you dimwits! [...]

What?! I did not get the impression that most of those partaking were younger than 18 years? On the other hand almost all those being for a "brexit" consist of old men, and the latter do not have to live through what's coming.

I can also tell you
1. it is very nice to drive and travel and shop through a Europe without borders.
2. immigration numbers are going down
3. most of "your" and EU immigrants are Poles and Romanians
4. other than the "rest" of Europe England has the most rigid immigration policies, and controls well who is being let into the country. From visa to customs controls, there is no comparison with other european countries. Maybe Romania and Poland. Of all things.

When England has left the EU, it will have to adapt to international law, which is b.t.w. less restrictive regarding immigrants than the current EU system. Do you know that? How will you behave then? Disregard international law and treaties?

Immigration as a reason alone is a non-issue hyped up by xenophobes and chauvinists. The fact that the latter is so en vogue in the US is not an excuse.


Good article, if someone reads other media than nationalist right-fake-bull from the "Sun", the Mail, the Express and the Telegraph:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...yths-austerity

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Good article

Migrants create jobs

Really?

Employers create jobs.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by STEED

Really?

Employers create jobs.

I tell you what. New ideas and new companies create jobs.
Some of them are obviously being thought and created by immigrants. Apart from that the number of jobs is not fixed, nor is the demand or kind of job the same all of the time.
The usual suspects of course do not mention this (they parrot the easy explanations for bias reasons), or they don't know it (then they are not exactly prone to intellectual tasks).

“If much of our public debate around immigration gives the impression that immigrants are job-takers, the stats suggest that the term ‘job creators’ might be more appropriate,” the report read.

According to the study migrants are responsible for 14 percent of new jobs in the UK.

2016:
Immigrants arte responsible for 14 percent of new jobs

This is from 2017, but new studies come to similar conclusions:
EU migrants are job creatores (read Employers!), not job takers, experts tell government

Research does not find a significant impact of overall migration on unemployment in the UK.

I forgot, people defending common sense and reason cannot be trusted. Hey, you can do anything you like. Believe your Farage, live with the consequences. But don't blame everything on others, especially not when your brexit hits the fan.


Like i assumed, brexit happens because of "bloody foreigners" and prejudice, nothing else. It was all so much better before "the foreigners", before the EU, even the future was better back then!
I take it those foreigners are in the process of taking away the worker's palaces, villas, and land in the Toscana or at the french riviera?

Your enemy is someone else.

[Jimbuna]

Three MPs have quit a committee chaired by Speaker John Bercow in light of a report into bullying in the Commons.

The Speaker has been under pressure after Dame Laura Cox's report said radical change was needed in the culture of the Commons.

Tories Will Quince and Mims Davies said they could not stay on the Reference Group on Representation and Inclusion while it was chaired by Mr Bercow.

Mr Bercow said he regretted their resignations.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45953183

Good for them but I doubt it'll make any difference.