STEAM REALLY SCREWED ME GOOD!! - Page 2

04-22-19, 10:47 PM

I've never had any issues with Steam. Of course I don't buy old games from Steam either. If it's old and not on Abandonware to where I can legally download it, then I know someone is trying to rip me off.

Having said that, I don't trust Steam as far as I can throw them. I have all my purchased games triple backed up off my PC. There will be a day Steam stop existing (to pretend otherwise is foolhardy) and I won't be left with the short stick.

In fact, pretty sure Home World is abandonware, I have one of them because of that.

Edit: Yep, it is, and so is two. https://www.myabandonware.com/game/homeworld-3zy

Edit2: Oh GoGs greedy ass has it claimed. Goddamn I hate GoG. They are the world's worst at claiming and reselling Abandonware, which is why the rightfully get pirated so hard. Glad I grabbed it before they did this, ****ing ****s!

Sailor Steve · 04-22-19, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hunter301

At the beginning they would send you out escorting a couple dozen B17s.
Not very realistic or historically accurate.

Not to quibble, but do they give a date for the missions? The first raid, on August 17, 1942, consisted of 12 B-17Es. By the end of that year there were only three bomb groups comprising 36 aircraft. By April 1943 they were running multiple bomber boxes, each made up of 54 planes.

Actually at the beginning of their career a couple dozen B-17s is realistic and historically accurate.

HunterICX · 04-23-19, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Slyguy3129

Edit2: Oh GoGs greedy ass has it claimed. Goddamn I hate GoG. They are the world's worst at claiming and reselling Abandonware, which is why the rightfully get pirated so hard. Glad I grabbed it before they did this, ****ing ****s!

I don't know what you're talking about, just because they announce GOG as a legal retailer it's not they who decided that the title be pulled from the Abandonware list (Steam sells the game as well). Gearbox Software purchased the rights back in 2013 and released a remastered version of the title back in 2015 which includes the original version of the game as well.

hunter301 · 04-23-19, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Not to quibble, but do they give a date for the missions? The first raid, on August 17, 1942, consisted of 12 B-17Es. By the end of that year there were only three bomb groups comprising 36 aircraft. By April 1943 they were running multiple bomber boxes, each made up of 54 planes.

Actually at the beginning of their career a couple dozen B-17s is realistic and historically accurate.

Not really sure.
You gotta remember that was almost 20 years ago.
All I know is it was so much grander the game when you modded it out like that. The skies full of planes fighting and protecting.
Watching bombers spiraling into a death dive.
"I love it. God help me I do love it so!" George C. Scott as Patton ...LOL

hunter301 · 04-23-19, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX

I don't know what you're talking about, just because they announce GOG as a legal retailer it's not they who decided that the title be pulled from the Abandonware list (Steam sells the game as well). Gearbox Software purchased the rights back in 2013 and released a remastered version of the title back in 2015 which includes the original version of the game as well.

Does anybody know if the older versions of Homeland are playable on windows 7?
I can't play the remastered because it required a OpenGL 3.3. driver which Intel does not support for the graphics card my laptop has.

HunterICX · 04-23-19, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hunter301

Does anybody know if the older versions of Homeland are playable on windows 7?
I can't play the remastered because it required a OpenGL 3.3. driver which Intel does not support for the graphics card my laptop has.

The Classic Version in the Remastered Bundle I believe uses the same engine and thus the answer would be no. If you still have the bundle however I'd say it can't hurt to give it a try if the Classic versions in the bundle work or not...I've read mixed messages from people said the Classic did work but after a Update of the game it no longer did.

under the system req:

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Additional Notes: * Game engine uses OpenGL3.3 It is important that you get the latest drivers for your video card to ensure compatibility with this product.

If you're refering to the original 1999 release then there are work arounds found online to get it working Windows 7. So if you have the CD still you could give it a shot.

Out of curiosity might I ask what video card your Laptop has?

hunter301 · 04-23-19, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX

The Classic Version in the Remastered Bundle I believe uses the same engine and thus the answer would be no. If you still have the bundle however I'd say it can't hurt to give it a try if the Classic versions in the bundle work or not...I've read mixed messages from people said the Classic did work but after a Update of the game it no longer did.

under the system req:

If you're refering to the original 1999 release then there are work arounds found online to get it working Windows 7. So if you have the CD still you could give it a shot.

Out of curiosity might I ask what video card your Laptop has?

The problem is with my laptop's video card. Intel never did an OpenGL 3.3 driver for the Intel HD graphics 3000 card so I'm pretty much screwed.again!!

Otherwise this whole issue would be mute.
Funny how a desktop that I built years ago could run the older game but a newer laptop can't.
Hence I tried to start up the old desktop but while the power came on I couldn't get anything to come on the monitor I was using with either HDMI or the attached vga cable.

larrysellars · 04-23-19, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

One of my other complaints about Steam is that it automatically updates/patches my games and there does not seem to be a way to turn it off. I keep telling it to not update and to keep me offline, but I think there is code that keeps resetting it so I get game updates with no choice.

Really messes up things if you are playing a modded game.

Steam allows mods, they even have a download library, so knowing that people like to play with mods and knowing that when a game is updated a lot of the mods will cause the game to crash, why can't Steam offer a way of locking in games?

I am trying to play Civ6 and it keeps crashing because of all the updates that the modders have a hard time keeping up with.

I hate Steam

That's not Steam; that's the developers' choice. The recent Paradox games allow you to revert back to a previous version and stay there. I've seen other games do it, too. I just tried to revert Civ6, however, and there were no previous versions shown.

Although at one point Steam did allow you to opt out of updates, but I haven't seen that choice in a long time.

BarracudaUAK · 05-11-19, 03:14 PM

I just thought about this... one of the threads here I mentioned that I had a game that wouldn't run in XP because version of OpenGL that was required was too old for the new video card.

Some one posted a link to a program that can grab OpenGL calls and redirect,
But I forget what thread it is in. And exactly how it works...

I'll do a search and see if I can find it. Might get you working on the laptop.

Barracuda

hunter301 · 05-12-19, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BarracudaUAK

I just thought about this... one of the threads here I mentioned that I had a game that wouldn't run in XP because version of OpenGL that was required was too old for the new video card.

Some one posted a link to a program that can grab OpenGL calls and redirect,
But I forget what thread it is in. And exactly how it works...

I'll do a search and see if I can find it. Might get you working on the laptop.

Barracuda

Is it the request for OpenGL that needs to be redirecting or do you actually need the OpenGL3.3 driver to play the game?
A work around would be great.

BarracudaUAK · 05-15-19, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hunter301

Is it the request for OpenGL that needs to be redirecting or do you actually need the OpenGL3.3 driver to play the game?
A work around would be great.

For the game I was having trouble with, it was older > newer.
However... I'm not sure if the tool could redirect newer > older...

Which is why I was trying to find the thread.
I'll have to search again, I didn't find it last time...

Barracuda

05-11-19, 03:14 PM	#24
BarracudaUAK Captain Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 520 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I just thought about this... one of the threads here I mentioned that I had a game that wouldn't run in XP because version of OpenGL that was required was too old for the new video card. Some one posted a link to a program that can grab OpenGL calls and redirect, But I forget what thread it is in. And exactly how it works... I'll do a search and see if I can find it. Might get you working on the laptop. Barracuda Last edited by BarracudaUAK; 05-11-19 at 04:41 PM. Reason: Spelling.

04-22-19, 10:47 PM	#16
Slyguy3129 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I've never had any issues with Steam. Of course I don't buy old games from Steam either. If it's old and not on Abandonware to where I can legally download it, then I know someone is trying to rip me off. Having said that, I don't trust Steam as far as I can throw them. I have all my purchased games triple backed up off my PC. There will be a day Steam stop existing (to pretend otherwise is foolhardy) and I won't be left with the short stick. In fact, pretty sure Home World is abandonware, I have one of them because of that. Edit: Yep, it is, and so is two. https://www.myabandonware.com/game/homeworld-3zy Edit2: Oh GoGs greedy ass has it claimed. Goddamn I hate GoG. They are the world's worst at claiming and reselling Abandonware, which is why the rightfully get pirated so hard. Glad I grabbed it before they did this, **ing **s!