What version of Lock On should I get ?

[Blacklight]

Should I get Lock On and the Flaming Cliffs Expansion or Lock On Gold, or Lock on Gold with the Flaming Cliffs Expansion ?
(I read that there were problems with Lock On Gold. Are they fixed now ?)
Does Lock On Gold have the Flaming Cliffs Expansion in it or would I have to buy them separately ? Just curious.

[FIREWALL]

Hi Blacllight

I have LOMAC but haven't played it much recently. Don't know much about Gold or expan pk.

I found it like Dangerous Waters, to much looking at manual.

I've heard alot of good talk about Tom Clancys Hawx.

Lots of modern jets includeing Bombers.

Sorry I'm not much help. I'm an old Prop Jockey.

[Ubergeek87]

I pretty sure gold comes with the flaming cliffs expansion, but I had also read about issues with faulty disks. What I wound up doing was getting plain lomac and expansion separately. It's pretty cheap, you can get lomac for around $5 including shipping on amazon and the expansion is $19.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I've heard alot of good talk about Tom Clancys Hawx.

*cough*
*splutter*
Blasphemer!

[porphy]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

Should I get Lock On and the Flaming Cliffs Expansion or Lock On Gold, or Lock on Gold with the Flaming Cliffs Expansion ?
(I read that there were problems with Lock On Gold. Are they fixed now ?)
Does Lock On Gold have the Flaming Cliffs Expansion in it or would I have to buy them separately ? Just curious.

As it happens I just reinstalled Lock On and Flaming Cliffs yesterday. With a new powerful graphics card ATI 4890 and a overclocked Intel coreduo cpu @3.2 ghz and 4 GB Ram the experience is very good even at 1600x 1080 resolution! I get 80-90 fps in cockpit. Lowest I have seen over a big city is 45-50. No stutters. Outside views gives fps between 130-300! I also run Lock on on windows 7 and it seems to work just fine.

I would say get both Lock On and Flaming Cliffs. Flying the Su-25T is an experience! The flight model of SU-25T taxes the computer a bit more, be prepared to subtract some 10 -15 fps when running this beast. But nothing beats skidding down the runway in this flying brick. By having the expansion you also get to benefit from the patch for Flaming Cliffs which patches up things for the whole sim.

I just found out that there is a new Nevada map available for Lock On as well and there is a lot of nice modding for both Lock On and Flamming cliffs.

Do remember that Flaming Cliffs comes with Starforce, if that would be a problem for you. With the CD version I think it just checks for the disc once a week. But you will still have it on your system. There is also a bug with DX10 cards, which means that you can't use full shadows, but I find that a minor problem as other shadow options can be used.

cheers porphy

[Highbury]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I've heard alot of good talk about Tom Clancys Hawx.

Lots of modern jets includeing Bombers.

I got a free copy of HAWX with a joystick. This is NOT a flight sim, it is an arcade game in the truest sense of the phrase. If you like that kinda thing the graphics are great, but if you want a sim, avoid at all costs.

[Blacklight]

Do remember that Flaming Cliffs comes with Starforce, if that would be a problem for you. With the CD version I think it just checks for the disc once a week. But you will still have it on your system.

Meh. It's already on my system anyway from Silent Hunter III. Never had any problems with it. No biggie.

So, the consensus here is to get Lock On and Flaming Cliffs separate and don't bother with Lock On Gold ?

[porphy]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

Meh. It's already on my system anyway from Silent Hunter III. Never had any problems with it. No biggie.

So, the consensus here is to get Lock On and Flaming Cliffs separate and don't bother with Lock On Gold ?

Nothing to fear then, but some people really get upset with SF. Just go ahead and enjoy some fighters and the A-10. Might be a good way to prepare for the DCS A-10 which promises to be a bit more to chew on!

cheers porphy