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Old 06-01-17, 10:55 AM   #3001
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You kind of missed/ignored my point.
I agree with your point, the only addition is that I think it might make it harder to field a volunteer force. Although ending up in Europe was just dumb luck for me, who knew that the Navy rewarded screw ups with duty stations in countries I'd pay to take a vacation in. Can't make it as a nuke? We're either sending you to Bermuda, Italy, or Greece. Wow, thanks!!!!
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Old 06-01-17, 02:44 PM   #3002
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There used to be two jobs in the Army that didn't require a security clearance. Those that couldn't qualify for one (or lost it later on) would find themselves reclassified to one of these two jobs.

"Mess Hall Cook" which obviously sucked but there was also "Recreation Center Specialist", that's the guy who passes out basket balls, skis and other recreational equipment.

Sounds boring? Maybe but they would be stationed at a military recreational resort in one of the following places:

Shades of Green located in Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida
Edelweiss Lodge and Resort in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany
Dragon Hill Lodge in Seoul, Korea;
Hale Koa Hotel in Fort DeRussy, Hawaii
New Sanno Hotel in Tokyo, Japan.

Such a horrible choice to make eh?
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Old 06-01-17, 04:47 PM   #3003
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not really political, but too precious not to share...

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Hollywood suffers melt down over Paris Climate Accord

President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord has sparked widespread hysteria in juice bars and luxury spas across Hollywood.

As a candidate, Trump vowed to “cancel” the Paris climate deal – slamming what he called “draconian climate rules.”

“The Paris accord is very unfair at the highest level to the United States,” the president told a gathering Thursday in the Rose Garden.

House Speaker Paul Ryan praised the president’s decision and thanked him for “withdrawing from this bad deal.”

“The Paris climate agreement was simply a raw deal for America,” Ryan said. “Signed by President Obama without Senate ratification, it would have driven up the cost of energy, hitting middle-class and low-income Americans the hardest.”

But some of Hollywood’s most esteemed scientists fear the president’s decision will put the nation on a slippery slope to the hothouse – an apocalyptic future with homeless Eskimos and polar bears unable to put their Coca-Colas on ice.

“If this is true he will have the death of whole nations on his hands,” warned scientist/actor Mark Ruffalo. “People will be looking to the USA for retribution for what they loose.”

I wonder which nation will be the first to spontaneously combust – Iceland? Liechtenstein?

Beauty and the Beast star Josh Gad took a break from playing make-believe to ponder our fate.

“Our children & our grandchildren have all just been handed a dark future because of a man who tweets at 3:00 AM & doesn’t ‘trust’ science,” Gad tweeted.

Cher, who apparently has some sort of graduate level degree in climatology, posted a bizarre rant, suggesting the nation has been “held hostage by Insane DICTATOR.”

Don Cheadle, known for his esteemed role as a Juicy Burger’s employee in the 1985 film “Moving Violations,” decided to bring Trump’s little boy into the debate.

“If you care about your kids maybe reconsider your #ParisAgreement decision. Barron will thank you when he sees you, whenever that is,” Cheadle tweeted.

Leonardo DeCaprio, who became a famous Hollywood star because of an iceberg, was devastated by the news.

“Today, our planet suffered,” he declared on Twitter.

Do you feel his pain, America? I suspect he will evacuate to some far-flung, exotic island in a private jet to mend his wounded psyche.

I’m old school. Back when I was growing up we did not have climate change or global warming. We had something called weather. Hot in the summer, cold in the winter. It’s an inconvenient truth, but it needed to be said.

And many of us appreciate President Trump putting America first – instead of a bunch of godless European vegetarians who don’t put ice in their soft drinks.

“I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris,” the president said in the Rose Garden.

So, let’s celebrate, America! I’m marking the occasion by firing up the grill, smoking a pork butt, cranking up the air-conditioning and driving around the neighborhood in a gas-guzzling SUV. And later tonight, I’ll remove an ice tray from my freezer to watch the ice cubes melt.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...te-accord.html
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Old 06-01-17, 06:21 PM   #3004
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...te-accord.html
Problems occur when people base their political and environmental views on pieces like that that could just as well have appeared on The Onion if the Onion was denying any climate changes, or Weekly World News.
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Problems occur when people base their political and environmental views on pieces like that that could just as well have appeared on The Onion if the Onion was denying any climate changes, or Weekly World News.
True but I don't see where climate change has been denied here, just that the Paris agreement, which would never have been ratified by Congress anyways, was a raw deal for Americans and that the president has said he'd be open to negotiating an improved version of it.

If you want some real fake news try this!:

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RAQQA, Syria — The self-proclaimed Islamic State has issued a statement condemning self-proclaimed comedian Kathy Griffin, accusing her of “cultural appropriation” after she posed for a photograph with a mock severed head of President Donald Trump.

The group, which has been protective of its brand ever since taking over vast swaths of Iraq and Syria and establishing itself as the premier beheading agency in the Middle East, said it was deeply disturbed by Griffin’s “ignorant and offensive” use of a “sacred Islamic State tradition.”
“This is just another example of a privileged white woman culturally appropriating the proud custom of a marginalized people. Beheadings are our thing, not your thing,” said the statement, which was released on Telegram.
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Old 06-01-17, 07:28 PM   #3006
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Well, the thing is, your Pres has repeatedly said he doesn't believe in scientists telling him that climate change is man made and real.

Fox News is a bastion of CC deniers. That "opinionist" wrote:
"I’m old school. Back when I was growing up we did not have climate change or global warming. We had something called weather. Hot in the summer, cold in the winter. It’s an inconvenient truth, but it needed to be said".
It is one of the many unhinged arguements that have been in the standard arsenal of arguements from CC deniers. I don't see this opinionist being much different from the regular, ill informed CC denier.
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ISIS condemns Kathy Griffin for cultural appropriation



RAQQA, Syria — The self-proclaimed Islamic State has issued a statement condemning self-proclaimed comedian Kathy Griffin, accusing her of “cultural appropriation” after she posed for a photograph with a mock severed head of President Donald Trump.

The group, which has been protective of its brand ever since taking over vast swaths of Iraq and Syria and establishing itself as the premier beheading agency in the Middle East, said it was deeply disturbed by Griffin’s “ignorant and offensive” use of a “sacred Islamic State tradition.”
“This is just another example of a privileged white woman culturally appropriating the proud custom of a marginalized people. Beheadings are our thing, not your thing,” said the statement, which was released on Telegram.


That's it August...I'm having another drink.

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True but I don't see where climate change has been denied here, just that the Paris agreement, which would never have been ratified by Congress anyways, was a raw deal for Americans and that the president has said he'd be open to negotiating an improved version of it.
exactly, Paris accord was a bad deal, period.
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exactly, Paris accord was a bad deal, period.
Yep, all that cap and trade does is shift the numbers from one place to another on whatever pretty graphs they come up with, it won't actually do anything to slow down the rate of greenhouse gases released.
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Well, the thing is, your Pres has repeatedly said he doesn't believe in scientists telling him that climate change is man made and real.
Yeah he's made some controversial tweets and comments over the years but he's also called climate change a big problem with catastrophic consequences for the planet and donated money to climate change groups. Of course that doesn't fit the narrative so it's never mentioned but it sounds to me like we don't really know what he thinks about the subject. Could that possibly be by design?

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It is one of the many unhinged arguements that have been in the standard arsenal of arguements from CC deniers. I don't see this opinionist being much different from the regular, ill informed CC denier.
You know if Global Warming believers weren't so eager to silence anyone who doesn't spout their party line by calling them names like "CC Deniers", attempting to get them fired from their jobs and otherwise trying to destroy their lives then maybe they would get the respect that they think their theories deserve. Right now their fascist like tactics just raise doubt that their theories can stand without them.

Thing is the earths climate is always changing. It changed before man climbed down from the trees and it'll keep changing long after we're gone. Is it really Climate Change Denial when one agrees that the climate is indeed changing but isn't sure what percentage of it is caused by humans?

I've seen too many expensive government boondoggles in my short life to just blindly support things like carbon taxes and emissions agreements negotiated by jet setting elites who by their wealth and power are immune to the consequences and in many cases stand to profit by them. So if I have to be either totally supportive of the Green agenda or totally against it, with no room for degrees of opinions in between then i'll have to stand against it.
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Old 06-01-17, 10:14 PM   #3012
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Yeah he's made some controversial tweets and comments over the years but he's also called climate change a big problem with catastrophic consequences for the planet and donated money to climate change groups. Of course that doesn't fit the narrative so it's never mentioned but it sounds to me like we don't really know what he thinks about the subject. Could that possibly be by design?



You know if Global Warming believers weren't so eager to silence anyone who doesn't spout their party line by calling them names like "CC Deniers", attempting to get them fired from their jobs and otherwise trying to destroy their lives then maybe they would get the respect that they think their theories deserve. Right now their fascist like tactics just raise doubt that their theories can stand without them.

Thing is the earths climate is always changing. It changed before man climbed down from the trees and it'll keep changing long after we're gone. Is it really Climate Change Denial when one agrees that the climate is indeed changing but isn't sure what percentage of it is caused by humans?

I've seen too many expensive government boondoggles in my short life to just blindly support things like carbon taxes and emissions agreements negotiated by jet setting elites who by their wealth and power are immune to the consequences and in many cases stand to profit by them. So if I have to be either totally supportive of the Green agenda or totally against it, with no room for degrees of opinions in between then i'll have to stand against it.
Nailed it!
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Yeah he's made some controversial tweets and comments over the years but he's also called climate change a big problem with catastrophic consequences for the planet and donated money to climate change groups. Of course that doesn't fit the narrative so it's never mentioned but it sounds to me like we don't really know what he thinks about the subject. Could that possibly be by design?
He donated what, $5,000? Once? As we can see this was a smart investment, as the usual people fall for it and go "Trump ain't that bad, he donated!" Ugh...

About 'some controversial tweets':









"Clean, beautiful and healthy air" - let's fire up the coal industry people!

More: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...nge-chinese-h/


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You know if Global Warming believers weren't so eager to silence anyone who doesn't spout their party line by calling them names like "CC Deniers"
> Implying global warming is a matter of beliefs...

Also, nice double standards, as usual:
"Don't call us deniers, you believers!!"



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...attempting to get them fired from their jobs and otherwise trying to destroy their lives then maybe they would get the respect that they think their theories deserve. Right now their fascist like tactics just raise doubt that their theories can stand without them.
Aaaaand here we go again - completely unable to differentiate, classic August. "They".
Yes, because everyone who ""believes"" in climate change wants to destroy the lives of those that don't.
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Thing is the earths climate is always changing. It changed before man climbed down from the trees and it'll keep changing long after we're gone. Is it really Climate Change Denial when one agrees that the climate is indeed changing but isn't sure what percentage of it is caused by humans?
We do know!

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
(Sorry, is NASA just "fake news" and liberal propaganda as well now? I lost track...)

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I've seen too many expensive government boondoggles in my short life to just blindly support things like carbon taxes and emissions agreements negotiated by jet setting elites who by their wealth and power are immune to the consequences and in many cases stand to profit by them.
Haha, right. You've seen too many expensive government boondoggles, so it's time to support a guy that is the epicenter of lying, deceiving and getting rich by making others poor - because you do not blindly support...
 
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I think Trump nailed it when he said, "No" to the world:

https://www.ecclesia.org/truth/world.html

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The terms 'world' and 'earth' have completely different meanings. Our Lord certainly made the distinction between 'world' and 'earth' when he said, "I have overcome the world" in John 16:33. It would be meaningless if he had said, "I have overcome the earth."

When you see the term "world" in scripture, it very rarely refers to the "earth." The "earth" (land, region, territory, country) is usually translated from Greek word #1093, ge. But "world" does not usually refer to any physical land, it mostly refers to the ungodly.
The world wants the USA to pay for them to play catch up with us ... when in reality they should clean up their act and their air and show us how they did it and then sell the plan to us.

Show us your clean air China and we will show you our money.
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