Determining Sea Floor Bottom?

World_Devastator · 06-10-14, 10:59 AM

In SH5 as we know it isn't like SH3/4 as you can actually see your boat bottom on the sea floor, my question is what are the veterans method to determine how far away from the actual sea floor you are? Last night while chatting we Defiance I was at a depth of 117m and my depth to keel said I had 14m to bottom but I bottomed out at 118m how do I not do this again? (I just want to iterate I am not going by visuals just depth of keel)

My guessing is just give myself 20m cushion...

Defiance · 06-10-14, 02:19 PM

Alas if you read this it will answer your Q

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=186788

World_Devastator · 06-10-14, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defiance

Alas if you read this it will answer your Q

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=186788

Thanks bud, I actaully saw this post this morning and was reading it. Maybe my Depth to Keel was off last night because I was already sitting on the bottom and it gave the reading a wrong value...

Defiance · 06-10-14, 02:41 PM

Hiya,

Blame the rocks

World_Devastator · 06-10-14, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defiance

Hiya,

Blame the rocks

haha yep

World_Devastator · 06-12-14, 07:47 AM

Not going to lie I got to play last night for a couple of hours late in the night and the Sea Floor Bottom thing really ruins the game for me, even with all the mods & eye candy its just something I cant get over. I am still trying to push thru but really that's a huge deal breaker for me, It will say Depth to bottom 56m then Max Dive Depth is 50m I can go to 45m and it will bottom out causing damage to Sub. It made me so mad I went back to my SH4 career, even though I want to play SH5 100% more since It looks so great

Defiance · 06-12-14, 06:54 PM

Best have a look here then

World_Devastator · 06-12-14, 07:23 PM

How did you do that?

Defiance · 06-12-14, 07:46 PM

Still testing

Hush hush n all that j/k

I will do one more test

TTFN

World_Devastator · 06-12-14, 09:02 PM

Haha all this and now you "Hush Hush" lol

World_Devastator · 06-23-14, 02:04 PM

Sorry to beat a dead horse but someone here has got to find a fix... I saw a post somewhere where DarthWraith tried some things with no avail. If I knew what to look for I would try but I know i don't know nothing like that man does.

Lets join together and fix the biggest bug left in the game!

Jaystew · 06-23-14, 11:47 PM

Well what was the verdict and test results?

Defiance · 06-24-14, 05:38 AM

Just random zero seabed level really

I noted and explained to world dev that if you get to say 6m or so and you hit the bottom (the subs bone as it called that sticks out underneath the sub) with this protrusion, sometimes you can tc and you slowly get down to the seabed, maybe something for more brainy people to look into (who knows)

Whether this is because i have changed my settings for the seabed in tdw's generic patcher i dunno (probably for a guess)

The dev that wrote about this bug/oversight i guess would know how hard if not impossible to fix without some patch from ubisoft, and we all know this game is long gone from the patching time lol

It is a shame and yep it's a pain, how the heck this problem was overlooked in what seems to be three of the sims is well beyond my comprehension, one of the most basic sub requirements would be a working seabed/depth

Maybe another way round the 'bone' is to do with the seabed itself, i have no idea, but was merely trying to establish if it's certain areas/depths of seabed

For my curious mind, if a sub can zero on some parts of the seabed with this 'bone' still coded onto the sub, why can't a workaround be sought

Food for thought as they say

Jaystew · 06-24-14, 09:06 AM

That was going to be my suggestion could we raise the sea floor itself about 3m or whatever the level indicated would be. Also if this would cause a problem around all the coastlines, would it be possible to modify the visual refraction which seems existent in the game to allow for more accurate rendering.

Those are the ideas I have but I have no idea how to implement them.

World_Devastator · 06-24-14, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaystew

That was going to be my suggestion could we raise the sea floor itself about 3m or whatever the level indicated would be. Also if this would cause a problem around all the coastlines, would it be possible to modify the visual refraction which seems existent in the game to allow for more accurate rendering.

Those are the ideas I have but I have no idea how to implement them.

I really like this idea....... Just wish I had the smarts to pull it off, hopefully someone will chime in

06-10-14, 10:59 AM	#1
World_Devastator Sparky Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mars Hill, North Carolina Posts: 158 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	Determining Sea Floor Bottom? In SH5 as we know it isn't like SH3/4 as you can actually see your boat bottom on the sea floor, my question is what are the veterans method to determine how far away from the actual sea floor you are? Last night while chatting we Defiance I was at a depth of 117m and my depth to keel said I had 14m to bottom but I bottomed out at 118m how do I not do this again? (I just want to iterate I am not going by visuals just depth of keel) My guessing is just give myself 20m cushion... Last edited by World_Devastator; 06-10-14 at 12:36 PM. Reason: My Guess....

06-10-14, 02:19 PM	#2
Defiance Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 908 Downloads: 672 Uploads: 0	Alas if you read this it will answer your Q http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=186788 __________________ Have Fun Bye Def

06-10-14, 02:41 PM	#4
Defiance Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 908 Downloads: 672 Uploads: 0	Hiya, Blame the rocks __________________ Have Fun Bye Def

06-12-14, 06:54 PM	#7
Defiance Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 908 Downloads: 672 Uploads: 0	Best have a look here then __________________ Have Fun Bye Def

06-12-14, 07:46 PM	#9
Defiance Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 908 Downloads: 672 Uploads: 0	Still testing Hush hush n all that j/k I will do one more test TTFN __________________ Have Fun Bye Def

06-12-14, 07:47 AM	#6
World_Devastator Sparky Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mars Hill, North Carolina Posts: 158 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	Not going to lie I got to play last night for a couple of hours late in the night and the Sea Floor Bottom thing really ruins the game for me, even with all the mods & eye candy its just something I cant get over. I am still trying to push thru but really that's a huge deal breaker for me, It will say Depth to bottom 56m then Max Dive Depth is 50m I can go to 45m and it will bottom out causing damage to Sub. It made me so mad I went back to my SH4 career, even though I want to play SH5 100% more since It looks so great

06-12-14, 07:23 PM	#8
World_Devastator Sparky Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mars Hill, North Carolina Posts: 158 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	How did you do that?

06-12-14, 09:02 PM	#10
World_Devastator Sparky Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mars Hill, North Carolina Posts: 158 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	Haha all this and now you "Hush Hush" lol

06-23-14, 02:04 PM	#11
World_Devastator Sparky Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mars Hill, North Carolina Posts: 158 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	Sorry to beat a dead horse but someone here has got to find a fix... I saw a post somewhere where DarthWraith tried some things with no avail. If I knew what to look for I would try but I know i don't know nothing like that man does. Lets join together and fix the biggest bug left in the game!

06-23-14, 11:47 PM	#12
Jaystew Sparky Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 151 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Well what was the verdict and test results?

06-24-14, 05:38 AM	#13
Defiance Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 908 Downloads: 672 Uploads: 0	Just random zero seabed level really I noted and explained to world dev that if you get to say 6m or so and you hit the bottom (the subs bone as it called that sticks out underneath the sub) with this protrusion, sometimes you can tc and you slowly get down to the seabed, maybe something for more brainy people to look into (who knows) Whether this is because i have changed my settings for the seabed in tdw's generic patcher i dunno (probably for a guess) The dev that wrote about this bug/oversight i guess would know how hard if not impossible to fix without some patch from ubisoft, and we all know this game is long gone from the patching time lol It is a shame and yep it's a pain, how the heck this problem was overlooked in what seems to be three of the sims is well beyond my comprehension, one of the most basic sub requirements would be a working seabed/depth Maybe another way round the 'bone' is to do with the seabed itself, i have no idea, but was merely trying to establish if it's certain areas/depths of seabed For my curious mind, if a sub can zero on some parts of the seabed with this 'bone' still coded onto the sub, why can't a workaround be sought Food for thought as they say __________________ Have Fun Bye Def

06-24-14, 09:06 AM	#14
Jaystew Sparky Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 151 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	That was going to be my suggestion could we raise the sea floor itself about 3m or whatever the level indicated would be. Also if this would cause a problem around all the coastlines, would it be possible to modify the visual refraction which seems existent in the game to allow for more accurate rendering. Those are the ideas I have but I have no idea how to implement them.