GR2 Editor/Viewer/Extractor/Importer

[thadgar]

Hi gap,
Thank You!
I will try this tonight when I get home.

[gap]

Originally Posted by thadgar

Hi gap,
Thank You!
I will try this tonight when I get home.

You are the welcome thadgar

Let me know if it works for you. It should be compatible with Wamphyri's mod and with any other mod/megamod.

[thadgar]

It worked perfectly
I loaded your 20mm_C38_Twin_Shield.sim file and...
I shot down a plane!

Thanks again Mate,

[gap]

Originally Posted by thadgar

It worked perfectly
I loaded your 20mm_C38_Twin_Shield.sim file and...
I shot down a plane!

Thanks again Mate,

Glad it helped

[mkiii]

Been playing around with the editor today, initially it was going to be a quick look, 8hrs later! I was a little further along, I eventually managed to import a IX hull into a type VII and get its materials and textures working correctly. It even opened in granny viewer afterwards, which is a minor victory I guess.
It`s just slow work figuring out how things have to be done in the program.
I have a sneaking feeling that getting the meshes and textures in is going to be the easy part though.

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by mkiii

Been playing around with the editor today, initially it was going to be a quick look, 8hrs later! I was a little further along, I eventually managed to import a IX hull into a type VII and get its materials and textures working correctly. It even opened in granny viewer afterwards, which is a minor victory I guess.
It`s just slow work figuring out how things have to be done in the program.
I have a sneaking feeling that getting the meshes and textures in is going to be the easy part though.

That sounds really good ! Can we see some screenshots?

[mkiii]

will post some up when/if I get a full sub in, got to see if I can get both scopes working in the ct, the animations will be the biggest problems there.
and the animation for the rear torp outer doors will be another,

[mkiii]

https://i.imgur.com/MfE2YDp.jpg

thats if the link works, I am still partially computer illiterate.

[mkiii]

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by mkiii

That looks quite promising mkiii!
Is that type IX hull with VIIC41 tower, right?

Don't hesitate to post any questions if needed mate. I'll try to help as much as I can.

I'm really glad to see that you use TWoS as a base for your work as well...

[mkiii]

yes just the IX hull, at the moment trying to make all the IX meshes fit into the 7c/41 gr2, which means learning wings 3d as well as the editor.
been fighting with the deck, its 6 sets of meshes rolled into 1. In wings its fine, in the editor its either inside out, back to front, or upside down, but I now know 3 ways not to do it

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by mkiii

yes just the IX hull, at the moment trying to make all the IX meshes fit into the 7c/41 gr2, which means learning wings 3d as well as the editor.
been fighting with the deck, its 6 sets of meshes rolled into 1. In wings its fine, in the editor its either inside out, back to front, or upside down, but I now know 3 ways not to do it

Gap loves this stuff... I'm sure he'll offer us some precious advice when he see your posts...

[gap]

Originally Posted by vdr1981

Gap loves this stuff... I'm sure he'll offer us some precious advice when he see your posts...

Here I am, better late than never

Originally Posted by mkiii

Been playing around with the editor today, initially it was going to be a quick look, 8hrs later! I was a little further along

Welcome in the SH geeks club mate

Originally Posted by mkiii

I eventually managed to import a IX hull into a type VII and get its materials and textures working correctly. It even opened in granny viewer afterwards, which is a minor victory I guess.

Yes, if after saving you can load it back in GR2 Editor, and it shows up correctly in Granny Viewer and/or in Goblin Editor, you are 99% sure that it will work in game too

Originally Posted by mkiii

It`s just slow work figuring out how things have to be done in the program.
I have a sneaking feeling that getting the meshes and textures in is going to be the easy part though.

Well, besides that there is not really much else you can do with the Editor. For me the hardest part is messing with the second UV channel, the one used for ambient occlusion mapping, without screwing it up. Adding/removing materials can be a PITA too. Remove the wrong material, and you will trash in the dust bin your work of days in a matter of minutes.
The key is planning carefully your work before you start, choosing the most suitable GR2 file that you will work on (according to the number of submeshes you want your model to have, the type of texture maps it will use) etc, and making many back up copies of your work

Originally Posted by mkiii

will post some up when/if I get a full sub in, got to see if I can get both scopes working in the ct, the animations will be the biggest problems there.
and the animation for the rear torp outer doors will be another,

Unfortunately the granny animation format is still unknown, so you cannot have animated GR2 files in game. Anyway, IIRC, periscopes have no trasform data (they are raised/lowered by means of the extesible controller). As for torpedo doors, you can link type VII's doors to your model if they fit with it, or you can store your custom torpedo door model in an animated dat file. Though with some limitations, you can mix dat and GR2 objects (again, if memory serves me well, the doors will look completely black)...

Originally Posted by mkiii

yes just the IX hull, at the moment trying to make all the IX meshes fit into the 7c/41 gr2, which means learning wings 3d as well as the editor.

Once you get used to its contextual menu systen, Wings is pretty easy to use, and there are some video turorials on the most common functuions on youtube. In any case, feel free to ask here if you need for help by the community

Originally Posted by mkiii

been fighting with the deck, its 6 sets of meshes rolled into 1. In wings its fine, in the editor its either inside out, back to front, or upside down, but I now know 3 ways not to do it

If your 3D editing program of election is Wings3D (but I think the same goes for Blender, Max, Maya, and the most common 3D software), you should flip your models along the x axis before importing them in game. Face normals should be pointing in the same direction as in Wings3D, I don't get why your model is inside-out

[mkiii]

Thanks Gap, it was the Normals, figured it out eventually, after hitting the text books, I think the torp doors will be doable using the existing files, if I can move the meshes and bones, not tried yet though. and thanks for the handy hints and tips, much appreciated mate.

[gap]

Originally Posted by mkiii

Thanks Gap, it was the Normals, figured it out eventually, after hitting the text books

As I said, if face normals point in the right directions in Wings3D, they do in game too

Originally Posted by mkiii

I think the torp doors will be doable using the existing files, if I can move the meshes and bones, not tried yet though.

Yes, you can move around bones at wish. Bone position unit is the same as vertex coordinates in most 3D editors; 0.1 units = 1 m (in game).

Originally Posted by mkiii

...and thanks for the handy hints and tips, much appreciated mate.

My pleasure mkiii. Keep on the good work and don't hesitate getting in touch again if you need any other information